anyone know about the "Virginia Valor Fathers Day Fiesta" or the "FPYC Fathers Day Tournament"

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I'm dying laughing at the crazy conspiracy theories. Really?

A lot of people dislike Valor. There's a huge thread full of Valor zero star reviews. Then, Valor decides to throw a crappy tournament specifically designed to cheat rec kids.

What a surprise that lots of people are happy to point out all their tournament fails.

Schadenfreude is real.

All of which is fine. Well, to a point. Just looking from outside -- it seems like you could probably have better success pointing to things that really ARE wrong with Valor instead of making up new ones.

Or maybe the new ones are the red herrings designed to distract you from what's really going on. Valor is hiding UFO evidence!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think FPYC has ten times as many teams.

Yeah, the Valor tournament did not hurt their business at all. Barely made a scratch.

Hard to tell -- the most recent year under "Past results" is 2013. Seemed a little bigger back then, but they had a TON of U8, which they don't have any more.

So if I worked at Valor along with everyone else in this thread, I'd suggest focusing on U8 and maybe U9-U12 while letting FPYC handle the rest.

If I were Valor I would work on improving your travel league... that is where the real money is at. Then you could throw a travel tournament.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm dying laughing at the crazy conspiracy theories. Really?

A lot of people dislike Valor. There's a huge thread full of Valor zero star reviews. Then, Valor decides to throw a crappy tournament specifically designed to cheat rec kids.

What a surprise that lots of people are happy to point out all their tournament fails.

Schadenfreude is real.

All of which is fine. Well, to a point. Just looking from outside -- it seems like you could probably have better success pointing to things that really ARE wrong with Valor instead of making up new ones.

Or maybe the new ones are the red herrings designed to distract you from what's really going on. Valor is hiding UFO evidence!

Is this your first time on DCUM soccer thread?

[Anonymous]

The major difference is in the U13 and up age teams.

FPYC has around 100 older teams. So they can do multiple skill levels and smaller age bands for instance U13 separete from U14.

Valor has less than 30 teams and that's WITH adding in random rec teams to try to juice the numbers. That's why their older age groups are full of issues.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm dying laughing at the crazy conspiracy theories. Really?

A lot of people dislike Valor. There's a huge thread full of Valor zero star reviews. Then, Valor decides to throw a crappy tournament specifically designed to cheat rec kids.

What a surprise that lots of people are happy to point out all their tournament fails.

Schadenfreude is real.

All of which is fine. Well, to a point. Just looking from outside -- it seems like you could probably have better success pointing to things that really ARE wrong with Valor instead of making up new ones.

Or maybe the new ones are the red herrings designed to distract you from what's really going on. Valor is hiding UFO evidence!

What things "wrong with Valor" are "made up" ? Your post is nonsensical.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think FPYC has ten times as many teams.

FPYC has 193.

Valor has ... wow, this site is slow ... I count 125, but I might be off by 5 or 10.

But Valor's numbers include a U8 division, and a LOT of their teams are from the same clubs -- especially SYA and CYA but also Herndon, Loudoun, BAC.

No one's arguing this point, though. FPYC is objectively bigger.

I'm surprised BAC switched. They usually have a well run rec program. Wonder what Valor's sales pitch was.

Some clubs are split between the two.

Valor has SYA (duh), CYA (duh), BAC, DCWA, FC Dulles (!!?), Fredericksburg FC, Herndon, JCYSL, Loudoun, LMVSC, NVSC, PWSI, Sterling, TSJFC, Universal FC, and VSA.

FPYC has FPYC (duh - 26 teams), ABGC (17 teams), Alexandria (1), BRYC (21), BAC (1), Fredericksburg FC (12), GFR (15), Gunston (4), Herndon (14), LMVSC (4), McLean (5), NPSC (2), NVSC (3), PWSI (7), SCAA (1), Soccer on the Hill (12), Sterling (11), SYC (29), VSA (4) and Vienna (4).

So a few overlaps -- BAC, Fredericksburg, Herndon, LMVSC and VSA.

Is there yet another tournament somewhere? I'm surprised McLean only has five and Alexandria only has one. Not surprised that Vienna only has four.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm dying laughing at the crazy conspiracy theories. Really?

A lot of people dislike Valor. There's a huge thread full of Valor zero star reviews. Then, Valor decides to throw a crappy tournament specifically designed to cheat rec kids.

What a surprise that lots of people are happy to point out all their tournament fails.

Schadenfreude is real.

All of which is fine. Well, to a point. Just looking from outside -- it seems like you could probably have better success pointing to things that really ARE wrong with Valor instead of making up new ones.

Or maybe the new ones are the red herrings designed to distract you from what's really going on. Valor is hiding UFO evidence!

Is this your first time on DCUM soccer thread?

No, though I took a few years off. Why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm dying laughing at the crazy conspiracy theories. Really?

A lot of people dislike Valor. There's a huge thread full of Valor zero star reviews. Then, Valor decides to throw a crappy tournament specifically designed to cheat rec kids.

What a surprise that lots of people are happy to point out all their tournament fails.

Schadenfreude is real.

All of which is fine. Well, to a point. Just looking from outside -- it seems like you could probably have better success pointing to things that really ARE wrong with Valor instead of making up new ones.

Or maybe the new ones are the red herrings designed to distract you from what's really going on. Valor is hiding UFO evidence!

Is this your first time on DCUM soccer thread?

No, though I took a few years off. Why?

Just wondering.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think FPYC has ten times as many teams.

FPYC has 193.

Valor has ... wow, this site is slow ... I count 125, but I might be off by 5 or 10.

But Valor's numbers include a U8 division, and a LOT of their teams are from the same clubs -- especially SYA and CYA but also Herndon, Loudoun, BAC.

No one's arguing this point, though. FPYC is objectively bigger.

I'm surprised BAC switched. They usually have a well run rec program. Wonder what Valor's sales pitch was.

Some clubs are split between the two.

Valor has SYA (duh), CYA (duh), BAC, DCWA, FC Dulles (!!?), Fredericksburg FC, Herndon, JCYSL, Loudoun, LMVSC, NVSC, PWSI, Sterling, TSJFC, Universal FC, and VSA.

FPYC has FPYC (duh - 26 teams), ABGC (17 teams), Alexandria (1), BRYC (21), BAC (1), Fredericksburg FC (12), GFR (15), Gunston (4), Herndon (14), LMVSC (4), McLean (5), NPSC (2), NVSC (3), PWSI (7), SCAA (1), Soccer on the Hill (12), Sterling (11), SYC (29), VSA (4) and Vienna (4).

So a few overlaps -- BAC, Fredericksburg, Herndon, LMVSC and VSA.

Is there yet another tournament somewhere? I'm surprised McLean only has five and Alexandria only has one. Not surprised that Vienna only has four.

Spring All Stars is a lot less popular than Fall All Stars. Look at how many teams play in the Herndon tournament! Mostly because it is into summer vacation time, a holiday weekend, and hot as hell.

[Anonymous]

The St James has a rec soccer league?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think FPYC has ten times as many teams.

FPYC has 193.

Valor has ... wow, this site is slow ... I count 125, but I might be off by 5 or 10.

But Valor's numbers include a U8 division, and a LOT of their teams are from the same clubs -- especially SYA and CYA but also Herndon, Loudoun, BAC.

No one's arguing this point, though. FPYC is objectively bigger.

I'm surprised BAC switched. They usually have a well run rec program. Wonder what Valor's sales pitch was.

Some clubs are split between the two.

Valor has SYA (duh), CYA (duh), BAC, DCWA, FC Dulles (!!?), Fredericksburg FC, Herndon, JCYSL, Loudoun, LMVSC, NVSC, PWSI, Sterling, TSJFC, Universal FC, and VSA.

FPYC has FPYC (duh - 26 teams), ABGC (17 teams), Alexandria (1), BRYC (21), BAC (1), Fredericksburg FC (12), GFR (15), Gunston (4), Herndon (14), LMVSC (4), McLean (5), NPSC (2), NVSC (3), PWSI (7), SCAA (1), Soccer on the Hill (12), Sterling (11), SYC (29), VSA (4) and Vienna (4).

So a few overlaps -- BAC, Fredericksburg, Herndon, LMVSC and VSA.

Is there yet another tournament somewhere? I'm surprised McLean only has five and Alexandria only has one. Not surprised that Vienna only has four.

Spring All Stars is a lot less popular than Fall All Stars. Look at how many teams play in the Herndon tournament! Mostly because it is into summer vacation time, a holiday weekend, and hot as hell.

One of the coldest days of my life was spent on the sideline at a Herndon game, but yeah, point taken.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think FPYC has ten times as many teams.

FPYC has 193.

Valor has ... wow, this site is slow ... I count 125, but I might be off by 5 or 10.

But Valor's numbers include a U8 division, and a LOT of their teams are from the same clubs -- especially SYA and CYA but also Herndon, Loudoun, BAC.

No one's arguing this point, though. FPYC is objectively bigger.

I'm surprised BAC switched. They usually have a well run rec program. Wonder what Valor's sales pitch was.

Some clubs are split between the two.

Valor has SYA (duh), CYA (duh), BAC, DCWA, FC Dulles (!!?), Fredericksburg FC, Herndon, JCYSL, Loudoun, LMVSC, NVSC, PWSI, Sterling, TSJFC, Universal FC, and VSA.

FPYC has FPYC (duh - 26 teams), ABGC (17 teams), Alexandria (1), BRYC (21), BAC (1), Fredericksburg FC (12), GFR (15), Gunston (4), Herndon (14), LMVSC (4), McLean (5), NPSC (2), NVSC (3), PWSI (7), SCAA (1), Soccer on the Hill (12), Sterling (11), SYC (29), VSA (4) and Vienna (4).

So a few overlaps -- BAC, Fredericksburg, Herndon, LMVSC and VSA.

Is there yet another tournament somewhere? I'm surprised McLean only has five and Alexandria only has one. Not surprised that Vienna only has four.

Spring All Stars is a lot less popular than Fall All Stars. Look at how many teams play in the Herndon tournament! Mostly because it is into summer vacation time, a holiday weekend, and hot as hell.

One of the coldest days of my life was spent on the sideline at a Herndon game, but yeah, point taken.

Was it two years ago? It was ridiculous.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I think FPYC has ten times as many teams.

FPYC has 193.

Valor has ... wow, this site is slow ... I count 125, but I might be off by 5 or 10.

But Valor's numbers include a U8 division, and a LOT of their teams are from the same clubs -- especially SYA and CYA but also Herndon, Loudoun, BAC.

No one's arguing this point, though. FPYC is objectively bigger.

I'm surprised BAC switched. They usually have a well run rec program. Wonder what Valor's sales pitch was.

Some clubs are split between the two.

Valor has SYA (duh), CYA (duh), BAC, DCWA, FC Dulles (!!?), Fredericksburg FC, Herndon, JCYSL, Loudoun, LMVSC, NVSC, PWSI, Sterling, TSJFC, Universal FC, and VSA.

FPYC has FPYC (duh - 26 teams), ABGC (17 teams), Alexandria (1), BRYC (21), BAC (1), Fredericksburg FC (12), GFR (15), Gunston (4), Herndon (14), LMVSC (4), McLean (5), NPSC (2), NVSC (3), PWSI (7), SCAA (1), Soccer on the Hill (12), Sterling (11), SYC (29), VSA (4) and Vienna (4).

So a few overlaps -- BAC, Fredericksburg, Herndon, LMVSC and VSA.

Is there yet another tournament somewhere? I'm surprised McLean only has five and Alexandria only has one. Not surprised that Vienna only has four.

Spring All Stars is a lot less popular than Fall All Stars. Look at how many teams play in the Herndon tournament! Mostly because it is into summer vacation time, a holiday weekend, and hot as hell.

One of the coldest days of my life was spent on the sideline at a Herndon game, but yeah, point taken.

Was it two years ago? It was ridiculous.

More like 10, but yeah, that weekend is often the first really cold one of the year. And if you're out there at 8 a.m., it's brutal.

[Anonymous]

Ref pay scale for 60-minute games at FPYC: $35-$65 for centers, $25-$40 for ARs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Ref pay scale for 60-minute games at FPYC: $35-$65 for centers, $25-$40 for ARs.

who cares?