Hunter Biden indicted on nine tax charges, adding to gun charges in special counsel probe

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

Defense claims “tampered”, prosecutors claim “annotated”. Regardless, Made changes is accurate.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hunter-biden-trial-gun-charges-attorneys-plan-defend/story?id=110723466

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

You are welcome

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/hunter-bidens-lawyers-insisted-it-would-be-wrong-to-keep-doctored-form-at-center-of-gun-trial-from-jury-but-the-judge-was-unmoved/
https://www.kten.com/story/50857858/judge-blocks-key-defense-evidence-and-witness-on-eve-of-hunter-biden-gun-trial
https://www.cnn.com/2024/06/02/politics/judge-blocks-evidence-hunter-biden-gun-trial/index.html

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Not really. The form asks if you are “addict” or “have an addiction”.

Did Hunter think of himself as an addict at that time or just somebody who used drugs? The prosecution is going to have to prove the former. Very gray area.

of course if the jury decides to acquit or is hung, MAGA heads will explode.

Correct. His defense is going to argue that Hunter had just completed an 11-day rehabilitation program and lived with a sober companion and believe he was not a present tense user or addict.

Very grey (and weak) argument from the prosecution.

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

Defense claims “tampered”, prosecutors claim “annotated”. Regardless, Made changes is accurate.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hunter-biden-trial-gun-charges-attorneys-plan-defend/story?id=110723466

Good grief. And, the store clerk testified that the question at hand.... whether Hunter checked that he was not an addict.... was done by him. And, he testified that is was. Lowell is reaching with this accusation. I guess he has to do whatever he can to defend someone where there is a ton of evidence against him.

Here is the pertinent passage:

Lowell has, for example, latched onto revelations in court that two copies exist of the federal gun form at the heart of the case, called an ATF Form 4473. A shop employee created the original document when Hunter Biden purchased the firearm in 2018. It lists Biden's passport as the ID he presented to the shop employee.

Years later, however, a copy was made. The copy included a handwritten note, "DE Vehicle Registration," on a line left blank for "Supplemental Government Issued Documentation." Store employees did so in 2021 to rectify a requirement that gun buyers present a form of ID that includes an address, which passports do not.

Lowell contends that gun store employees "tampered with" the document, and that it raises questions about "who wrote what on the form, and when."

Weiss' office has said the gun shop employees merely "annotated" the document. But they took Lowell's argument seriously enough to re-interview the gun store owner, Ronald Palimere, on May 16.

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

Defense claims “tampered”, prosecutors claim “annotated”. Regardless, Made changes is accurate.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hunter-biden-trial-gun-charges-attorneys-plan-defend/story?id=110723466

Good grief. And, the store clerk testified that the question at hand.... whether Hunter checked that he was not an addict.... was done by him. And, he testified that is was. Lowell is reaching with this accusation. I guess he has to do whatever he can to defend someone where there is a ton of evidence against him.

Here is the pertinent passage:

Lowell has, for example, latched onto revelations in court that two copies exist of the federal gun form at the heart of the case, called an ATF Form 4473. A shop employee created the original document when Hunter Biden purchased the firearm in 2018. It lists Biden's passport as the ID he presented to the shop employee.

Years later, however, a copy was made. The copy included a handwritten note, "DE Vehicle Registration," on a line left blank for "Supplemental Government Issued Documentation." Store employees did so in 2021 to rectify a requirement that gun buyers present a form of ID that includes an address, which passports do not.

Lowell contends that gun store employees "tampered with" the document, and that it raises questions about "who wrote what on the form, and when."

Weiss' office has said the gun shop employees merely "annotated" the document. But they took Lowell's argument seriously enough to re-interview the gun store owner, Ronald Palimere, on May 16.

No “good grief.” The gun owner was granted immunity for selling the gun without proper identification.

Im no fan of HB, just pointing out where the store owner messed up (and broke the law but he’s absolved from that since he’s helping nail President Biden’s son.)

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

Defense claims “tampered”, prosecutors claim “annotated”. Regardless, Made changes is accurate.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hunter-biden-trial-gun-charges-attorneys-plan-defend/story?id=110723466

Good grief. And, the store clerk testified that the question at hand.... whether Hunter checked that he was not an addict.... was done by him. And, he testified that is was. Lowell is reaching with this accusation. I guess he has to do whatever he can to defend someone where there is a ton of evidence against him.

Here is the pertinent passage:

Lowell has, for example, latched onto revelations in court that two copies exist of the federal gun form at the heart of the case, called an ATF Form 4473. A shop employee created the original document when Hunter Biden purchased the firearm in 2018. It lists Biden's passport as the ID he presented to the shop employee.

Years later, however, a copy was made. The copy included a handwritten note, "DE Vehicle Registration," on a line left blank for "Supplemental Government Issued Documentation." Store employees did so in 2021 to rectify a requirement that gun buyers present a form of ID that includes an address, which passports do not.

Lowell contends that gun store employees "tampered with" the document, and that it raises questions about "who wrote what on the form, and when."

Weiss' office has said the gun shop employees merely "annotated" the document. But they took Lowell's argument seriously enough to re-interview the gun store owner, Ronald Palimere, on May 16.

Seems pretty relevant to the credibility of the prosecution witness that he altered the form after the fact. Hunter should get to cross examine him on that point. Maybe the jury will still believe him, but it’s highly relevant and clear error to exclude it.

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

This crime is no different than what Marilyn Mosby or Trump were prosecuted for, false declarations.

No one disputes that he claimed to not abuse drugs on the form. No one disputes that his book proves that this was a false declaration. The fact that his book is about his struggles with addiction irrelevant.

You are delusional. Trump didn’t just lie on a form. He committed election fraud and tax fraud.

What is tax fraud? He misrepresented his business costs on tax forms.

He disguised a reimbursement to his coconspirator for hush money that had been paid to benefit his campaign as a tax deductible expense for legal services. That’s business fraud to commit tax fraud and campaign finance fraud.

Exactly. And Hunter Biden misrepresented his drug use on a legal form in order to purchase a gun that he would not otherwise have been legally allowed to purchase.

Well the gun shop made changes to the form later. The prosecution managed get that suppressed so the jury isn’t getting a full account.

Please provide a credible citation for this claim. TIA.

Defense claims “tampered”, prosecutors claim “annotated”. Regardless, Made changes is accurate.
https://abcnews.go.com/amp/US/hunter-biden-trial-gun-charges-attorneys-plan-defend/story?id=110723466

Good grief. And, the store clerk testified that the question at hand.... whether Hunter checked that he was not an addict.... was done by him. And, he testified that is was. Lowell is reaching with this accusation. I guess he has to do whatever he can to defend someone where there is a ton of evidence against him.

Here is the pertinent passage:

Lowell has, for example, latched onto revelations in court that two copies exist of the federal gun form at the heart of the case, called an ATF Form 4473. A shop employee created the original document when Hunter Biden purchased the firearm in 2018. It lists Biden's passport as the ID he presented to the shop employee.

Years later, however, a copy was made. The copy included a handwritten note, "DE Vehicle Registration," on a line left blank for "Supplemental Government Issued Documentation." Store employees did so in 2021 to rectify a requirement that gun buyers present a form of ID that includes an address, which passports do not.

Lowell contends that gun store employees "tampered with" the document, and that it raises questions about "who wrote what on the form, and when."

Weiss' office has said the gun shop employees merely "annotated" the document. But they took Lowell's argument seriously enough to re-interview the gun store owner, Ronald Palimere, on May 16.

They took it seriously enough to submit the document as a black and white copy instead of the color version that shows what was filled out post-hoc.

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Anonymous wrote:No one gets prison for lying on this form. It’s ridiculous how Republicans get away with intimidating prosecutors and courts all while crying that they are the ones being persecuted.

That’s not true, and there’s not usually so much evidence that the person lied as this case has.

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Anonymous wrote:They are using admissions that he made in a memoir about his recovery to prosecute him for an old victimless crime because Republicans demanded it. This is not something that would happen if he were anyone else.

Illegally acquiring a weapon is not a victimless crime.

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Anonymous wrote:Being in court is really stressful

Why can’t he just plea? what’s the big deal? even martha stewart can do jail time

I really don’t get why he is dragging this family through all this. It’s an open and shut case and he should own up to his mistakes.

It says a lot about his character or lack thereof.

I think you're forgetting that a plea deal had been agreed to and was reneged upon at the very last minute by the Republican prosecutor after Republican House members complained because they wanted to use it as an election issue.

That’s not what happened. The judge refused to ratify the plea deal because it was ridiculous and in the judges words, both parties had differing interpretations. The judge then asked the parties to go back and negotiate a new deal and Hunter Biden refused because the new deal included jail time. That’s the whole story and accusing the prosecutor of partisan bias makes you the same as Trump.

The plea deal was normal for these charges. The political intervention by Republicans was the ridiculous and outrageous manipulation of the justice system. Stop your gaslighting. All of the political intervention has come from Republicans.

It was so abnormal that it fell apart under standard questioning by the judge. Stop the gaslighting.

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See, here's the thing: if Hunter Biden is convicted, he'll go to jail (or get probation, who knows). There will be no storming of the Capitol, no threats to indict DAs for....something, no screaming about the "weaponization of the DOJ".

And I won't vote for Hunter Biden.

[Anonymous]

Meanwhile Jill Biden's 3,600-mile round trip from France to Delaware to spend two days at Hunter's trial could cost up to $345,000... and taxpayers could be on the hook for a huge bill

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Anonymous wrote:Meanwhile Jill Biden's 3,600-mile round trip from France to Delaware to spend two days at Hunter's trial could cost up to $345,000... and taxpayers could be on the hook for a huge bill

How much did Donald's golf cost?