Tourist submersible missing on visit to Titanic

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

[Anonymous]

I just read this article. Apparently even if they passed out there was a method for the vessel to rise to the surface.

https://www.npr.org/2023/06/20/1183273102/titan-missing-sub-titanic-rescue-oceangate

[Anonymous]

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And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Well, they can’t. They’re likely dead.

And how the hell do you know what they joked about when they were alive?

I don't. They could've been terrible people. Which is what you're being when you make dumb jokes like "Hur hur they no make joke cause they dead. Billionaires are dumb."

It is such low hanging fruit. I'd tell you that you could do better in terms of jokes but I can tell from the illogical response you just typed that you likely can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

Ah ok. Sounds like they lost all communication though.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so effing weird. Kneejerk liberal reaction of "billionaires bad >"

And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Idk you couldn't pay ME $250k to get on that thing but I also think they're human beings with loved ones.

If you see something offensive, like a tasteless joke about the victims, report it. I haven't read the whole thread, but from the number of pages I have read, I didn't see any tasteless jokes. I did report some trolls (or sock puppet?) joking about having to cancel their trip, and those posts were removed.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so effing weird. Kneejerk liberal reaction of "billionaires bad >"

And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Idk you couldn't pay ME $250k to get on that thing but I also think they're human beings with loved ones.

If you see something offensive, like a tasteless joke about the victims, report it. I haven't read the whole thread, but from the number of pages I have read, I didn't see any tasteless jokes. I did report some trolls (or sock puppet?) joking about having to cancel their trip, and those posts were removed.

+1

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are we wasting our resources on these idiots?

We try to rescue people. Usually because they did something dumb. Because it's the right thing to do.

Nobody tried to rescue those 700 migrants currently sitting on the floor of the Mediterranean Sea. I wonder why.

Are you f_ucking KIDDING me?!

The Greek Coast Guard made an attempt to rescue them and tow them to shore in Greece. They declined assistance because they wanted to go to Italy instead of Greece.

And then, when the boat capsized, the Greek coast guard still had to rescue them!!!!

LOL at the Greek propagandists posting.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is so effing weird. Kneejerk liberal reaction of "billionaires bad >"

And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Idk you couldn't pay ME $250k to get on that thing but I also think they're human beings with loved ones.

If you see something offensive, like a tasteless joke about the victims, report it. I haven't read the whole thread, but from the number of pages I have read, I didn't see any tasteless jokes. I did report some trolls (or sock puppet?) joking about having to cancel their trip, and those posts were removed.

Whatever. As others have said, you guys spent DAYS babbling about how the gd Unabomber was some poor, lost genius but are gleeful that a 19yo died because his dad was rich.

Which post is gleeful??

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Well, they can’t. They’re likely dead.

And how the hell do you know what they joked about when they were alive?

I don't. They could've been terrible people. Which is what you're being when you make dumb jokes like "Hur hur they no make joke cause they dead. Billionaires are dumb."

It is such low hanging fruit. I'd tell you that you could do better in terms of jokes but I can tell from the illogical response you just typed that you likely can't.

DP. No one has made jokes like that. You sound like you have a grudge against DCUM users and it causes you to fabricate things that haven't happened.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are we wasting our resources on these idiots?

We try to rescue people. Usually because they did something dumb. Because it's the right thing to do.

Nobody tried to rescue those 700 migrants currently sitting on the floor of the Mediterranean Sea. I wonder why.

Are you f_ucking KIDDING me?!

The Greek Coast Guard made an attempt to rescue them and tow them to shore in Greece. They declined assistance because they wanted to go to Italy instead of Greece.

And then, when the boat capsized, the Greek coast guard still had to rescue them!!!!

LOL at the Greek propagandists posting.

That's being reported by CNN.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Well, they can’t. They’re likely dead.

And how the hell do you know what they joked about when they were alive?

I don't. They could've been terrible people. Which is what you're being when you make dumb jokes like "Hur hur they no make joke cause they dead. Billionaires are dumb."

It is such low hanging fruit. I'd tell you that you could do better in terms of jokes but I can tell from the illogical response you just typed that you likely can't.

Well, I know you thing your the Logic Master with airtight statements like “I don’t see those people (who you’ve never met in your life) making jokes about dead people!” but let me assure you, you’re not. You’re just trotting out your smug sense of superiority. And i didn’t make a joke, so put down your violin. I stated a fact. They’re dead. And wanna know something else? Most mega wealthy people are not nice people. So no, I’m not losing any sleep over this. They played a risky game, they obviously knew the risks. They lost. It happens.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

I’m pp. I assumed the hull was titanium but apparently they used a lot of carbon fiber. Carbon fiber is stronger than steel, but it’s not as strong in compression. And it’s brittle. Whoever said implosion before might be right, sadly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The fact that they can’t communicate and haven’t surfaced points to a hull breach.

I would assume the hull had strain gauges. If there was no communication and no report of hull failure, most likely there was a power failure of some kind and the back up (if there was one) didn’t engage. Could be battery failure or electrical issue.

In that case, I would assume it is adrift and without power, too cold for survival.

ok for those of us without knowledge of this kind of vehicle - what is a hull gauge? I honestly wouldn't assume they had one though....

It’s a device that measures strain, which is a measure of how much a material deforms linearly. It’s the change in length of a material divided by the original length. The crudest version would be a wire fixed at both ends that snaps when stretched too long. In this case, the gauge would measure how much the hull is compressed compared to its original size. All ships and planes have strain gauges and stress gauges (stress is the force on materials that leads to strain) so that a rudder doesn’t snap off unexpectedly.

If the submarine had one, any excessive would be signaled via its communication system.

I’m pp. I assumed the hull was titanium but apparently they used a lot of carbon fiber. Carbon fiber is stronger than steel, but it’s not as strong in compression. And it’s brittle. Whoever said implosion before might be right, sadly.

You gotta realize how ridiculous this vessel is. The max depth of navy sub is about 900m, this thing goes down to 3800m. I said up thread I think it gave under pressure.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:
And yet...the people on board the submarine aren't the ones making tasteless jokes about people who are probably dead.

Well, they can’t. They’re likely dead.

And how the hell do you know what they joked about when they were alive?

I don't. They could've been terrible people. Which is what you're being when you make dumb jokes like "Hur hur they no make joke cause they dead. Billionaires are dumb."

It is such low hanging fruit. I'd tell you that you could do better in terms of jokes but I can tell from the illogical response you just typed that you likely can't.

Well, I know you thing your the Logic Master with airtight statements like “I don’t see those people (who you’ve never met in your life) making jokes about dead people!” but let me assure you, you’re not. You’re just trotting out your smug sense of superiority. And i didn’t make a joke, so put down your violin. I stated a fact. They’re dead. And wanna know something else? Most mega wealthy people are not nice people. So no, I’m not losing any sleep over this. They played a risky game, they obviously knew the risks. They lost. It happens.

DP but I really think this is a gross statement. Haven't seen tasteless jokes but also think saying "mega wealthy people are not nice" is a huge generalization.

[Anonymous]

Why are you people picking on the fact that they were rich? I don’t understand how it’s relevant.