What would it ACTUALLY take for you to consider biking or taking the bus, in lieu of motoring?

[Anonymous]

I would bike to work if someone had a gun to my head. That’s about it.

There is nothing better than the quiet of my own car. I couldn’t imagine being stuck on someone else’s time if I didn’t have to be.

[Anonymous]

If there was a giant asteroid heading for earth, and if it hit it would wipe out all life, and the only way to stop it was for me to ride a bike, I’d totally ride a bike. But otherwise? F**k that. Bikes are stupid.

[Anonymous]

So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

[Anonymous]

My kids are 10 and 13 and go to public schools in dc. Theyre currently st the same one where pickup and dropoff is a nightmare on a congested street. I wish there were school buses, or student only buses offered. Then i could walk.
Next year my older one will take the metobus 40 mins to high school, but we’re thinking of moving closer.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bus stations would have to be free of homeless and criminals.

Homeless people have the right to ride the bus.

This reminds me of that thread where a poster refused to go to the public library because homeless people went to it. Homeless people have the right to go to the library too.

If the buses fill up with homeless people (and they will once homeless people realize they’re free) no one else will use them. Not sure what that accomplishes. Is the purpose of public transportation to drive homeless people in circles all day?

+1

I saw two guys who looked very high on drugs and unclean get on the bus carrying a bunch of crap. I don’t care if you call me elitist, I don’t want to spend 30 minutes sitting near those two guys. And my guess is most of you wouldn’t either. They looked very unwell.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

15-30 minutes to drive 10 miles during rush hour? It would take more than 30 minutes for me to drive to my office during rush hour, and I live 6 miles from it. Maybe it takes 15-30 minutes to go 10 miles on the Beltway, but in the District, it’s already too congested for driving to make sense. Metro or biking are as fast for me, or faster, than driving, and on Metro I can deal with work email or read, while biking at least gets me some exercise. If your commute is primarily on busy roads near downtown, driving is just asking for aggravation.

[Anonymous]

Public transit takes twice as long as driving. Parking is free but I think I’d still pay to park to save an hour or more each day.

I’d switch if the reverse was true and the bus saved me time each day.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

15-30 minutes to drive 10 miles during rush hour? It would take more than 30 minutes for me to drive to my office during rush hour, and I live 6 miles from it. Maybe it takes 15-30 minutes to go 10 miles on the Beltway, but in the District, it’s already too congested for driving to make sense. Metro or biking are as fast for me, or faster, than driving, and on Metro I can deal with work email or read, while biking at least gets me some exercise. If your commute is primarily on busy roads near downtown, driving is just asking for aggravation.

That's not true at all. I live in Upper NW and easily drive to my office in Penn Quarter right by the metro is less time than it would take to walk 10 to the metro and take the red line in. 20 mins driving vs 30-35 mins walk/metro. Traffic is minimal on city streets around 7:45 but the metro is packed and every week there's some incident.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

Most likely yes that is fine. But of course it would not be that. At some point I would change commute times and if I had to move if the commute becomes too much. But that will not happen because there is no growth scenario that would cause your most extreme example. Sustainability is a bad word. Everything is sustainable. You just need to make adjustments.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

15-30 minutes to drive 10 miles during rush hour? It would take more than 30 minutes for me to drive to my office during rush hour, and I live 6 miles from it. Maybe it takes 15-30 minutes to go 10 miles on the Beltway, but in the District, it’s already too congested for driving to make sense. Metro or biking are as fast for me, or faster, than driving, and on Metro I can deal with work email or read, while biking at least gets me some exercise. If your commute is primarily on busy roads near downtown, driving is just asking for aggravation.

It took me more than 30 minutes to get out of DC on a weekend around 3PM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

15-30 minutes to drive 10 miles during rush hour? It would take more than 30 minutes for me to drive to my office during rush hour, and I live 6 miles from it. Maybe it takes 15-30 minutes to go 10 miles on the Beltway, but in the District, it’s already too congested for driving to make sense. Metro or biking are as fast for me, or faster, than driving, and on Metro I can deal with work email or read, while biking at least gets me some exercise. If your commute is primarily on busy roads near downtown, driving is just asking for aggravation.

It took me more than 30 minutes to get out of DC on a weekend around 3PM.

Great story. I had to transfer from the red line to a shuttle bus back to the redline last week that added an extra 45 mins to a standard commute.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

15-30 minutes to drive 10 miles during rush hour? It would take more than 30 minutes for me to drive to my office during rush hour, and I live 6 miles from it. Maybe it takes 15-30 minutes to go 10 miles on the Beltway, but in the District, it’s already too congested for driving to make sense. Metro or biking are as fast for me, or faster, than driving, and on Metro I can deal with work email or read, while biking at least gets me some exercise. If your commute is primarily on busy roads near downtown, driving is just asking for aggravation.

That's not true at all. I live in Upper NW and easily drive to my office in Penn Quarter right by the metro is less time than it would take to walk 10 to the metro and take the red line in. 20 mins driving vs 30-35 mins walk/metro. Traffic is minimal on city streets around 7:45 but the metro is packed and every week there's some incident.

I go in later than 7:45. I haven’t driven to my office since before the pandemic, but when I did it then, it routinely took me longer than 30 minutes, and almost twice as long if it was raining. I far, far prefer metro.

[Anonymous]

Moving back to Asia.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So you're fine with your 30 minute commute turning into a 40 minute commute, and then an hour commute and then an hour and a half commute and so on? Because, cars ARE NOT sustainable in any way commensurate with population growth. That's just a fact. So there you are, you'll be wasting away more and more of your day and more and more of your life sitting stuck in traffic with nothing to do but look at some other idiot's tail lights.

It takes 15-30 min to drive 10 miles during rush hours. It will take 45-70 minutes to ride a bike for the same distance. How many people can afford the extra time every day? When you spend time with your kids in a car, conversations happen. If you spend extra hour to ride bike to work every day, you will spend less time with your family.

15-30 minutes to drive 10 miles during rush hour? It would take more than 30 minutes for me to drive to my office during rush hour, and I live 6 miles from it. Maybe it takes 15-30 minutes to go 10 miles on the Beltway, but in the District, it’s already too congested for driving to make sense. Metro or biking are as fast for me, or faster, than driving, and on Metro I can deal with work email or read, while biking at least gets me some exercise. If your commute is primarily on busy roads near downtown, driving is just asking for aggravation.

That's not true at all. I live in Upper NW and easily drive to my office in Penn Quarter right by the metro is less time than it would take to walk 10 to the metro and take the red line in. 20 mins driving vs 30-35 mins walk/metro. Traffic is minimal on city streets around 7:45 but the metro is packed and every week there's some incident.

I go in later than 7:45. I haven’t driven to my office since before the pandemic, but when I did it then, it routinely took me longer than 30 minutes, and almost twice as long if it was raining. I far, far prefer metro.

Wet shoes. Umbrella. Some stupid raincoat. People on the metro crowing you.

I glide from home garage to work garage in 20 mins at 7:45.