+1 He absolutely said what she said. |
What did he say or do wrong? Truly? Zanab was projecting her own insecurities onto her restriction so she could fit into her dress, and blamed him. That's on her. |
What do you all think about Raven and SK continuing to date? |
He said "are you really going to eat two?" Why the eff did he say that then? What is that, 70 calories? I think he started backtracking when he remembered the cameras were on. |
I think it's nice in theory but see too many differences for them to make it for the long haul. |
He did not say that. He said: "Are you about to eat two of those?" There was no hostility or judgment in his voice (unless you're projecting, obviously) and then Zanab followed up about WHY she is voluntarily choosing to restrict herself (for her dress). Jesus, as a woman who's struggled with weight and judgment most of my life, his question was completely and totally benign. It was his flighty curious question, and nothing more. |
And what if he does that all the time like she said? Constant questions like that about what she’s eating? Your head is in the sand if you think that’s innocent and not damaging. |
I think this is exactly right. And, unlike Barnacle, he seemed to feel genuine remorse about some of his crappy behavior. |
Well, how about they air the footage? The one they did, it was all about Zanab hearing what she heard in her own head, and not having a good handle on the context or tone. Cole isn't perfect, his convo with Colleen was awful. But Zanab is a messed up person in her own right, and so unnecessarily blaming Cole for everything. She takes zero accountability for her own crappy behavior. |
These food comments are right on the heels of him telling his new fiancé that she’s not the type of woman he’s normally attracted to, that Colleen is a 10 while she’s a 9, that she looks so different without makeup. You might to willing to dismiss isolated clips, but taken as a whole in context, he’s an ass. He may not be consciously pressuring her to change her body, that I can give him. But intent is not the same as impact. All of those moments together have an impact. He seemed to realize it towards the end of the reunion. Bartise, who did the same thing to Nancy, did not. |
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I DESPISE Bartise, but if I'm just judging his looks I think he's very attractive. |
Agree. He said "save your appetito". If she is going to bring that up, it's her insecurities. I have been fat and I have been thin and my reaction when I was fat would be anger and when I'm thin I would have laughed at that, or said you're right, I want to save my appetito. |
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Sorry for the repost; my comment was in the wrong place. Original below. And if people noticed, he commented that he was simply asking because they both needed to save room for what he said was going to be a huge dinner they were going to later - nothing to do with her weight. He inquired as to why she had eaten so little earlier and even commented that he offered her more food than she ate. I didn’t get any “you need to lose weight” vibes; he merely guesses as to the reason why she had eaten so little. Should he have said “you’re beautiful and don’t need to lose weight”? Sure, maybe, but his comments beforehand weren’t malicious |