Insurrection Hearings 6/28 and beyond

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.


Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.


No not weird. It's a type of fallacy that Trumpers will use to discredit the whole testimony.


Apparently, the testimony is unraveling because the people she supposedly got the information from are saying it's not true.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.


He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech


He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.


That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.


Yeah totally, that’s why he incited them to try and kill pence.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.


He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech


He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.


That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.


That has never been his MO. Judging by his tweet condemning Pence, at the time that Pence was in hiding in the Capitol, Trump would be going there to direct the hanging.


Speculation. But do enjoy that TV show you are creating.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.


Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.


It makes a difference because the 'beast' has a shield that would have prevented him from reaching the driver


Earlier in the thread, it was pointed out, that the President can lower the shield.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.


Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.


No not weird. It's a type of fallacy that Trumpers will use to discredit the whole testimony.


They won't discredit it. Trump cultists will plug their ears and sing loudly that they can't hear you. Like they always do. The testimony remains credible.

If it wasn't this, they'd seize on something else. Or make something up entirely. Or just call her fat. Their words don't convey meaning, just belligerent noise.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.


He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech


He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.


That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.


ROFL. Yeah, based on his speech and all his actions and inflammatory statements leading up to them riot, that’s surely what would have happened.

Does your mother even like you?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.


He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech


He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.


That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.


That has never been his MO. Judging by his tweet condemning Pence, at the time that Pence was in hiding in the Capitol, Trump would be going there to direct the hanging.


Speculation. But do enjoy that TV show you are creating.


Sorry, I actually read his tweets as I prefer non-fiction

Trump tweets at 2:44 pm on Jan 6th

"Mike Pence didn't have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution, giving States a chance to certify a corrected set of facts, not the fraudulent or inaccurate ones which they were asked to previously certify. USA demands the truth!"

Yeah, he's looking for peace.



Anonymous
He called on an armed mob that he knew was calling for the death of the VP to march to the Capitol l, and stop the VP from certifying the election. Uhm. Not looking good.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.


Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.


It makes a difference because the 'beast' has a shield that would have prevented him from reaching the driver


Try harder.
https://auto.hindustantimes.com/auto/cars/meet-the-beast-what-makes-donald-trump-s-limousine-the-safest-car-in-the-world-41582353609142.html

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.


He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech


He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.


That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.


There are thousands of witnesses who could refute that bullshit.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:He called on an armed mob that he knew was calling for the death of the VP to march to the Capitol l, and stop the VP from certifying the election. Uhm. Not looking good.


But his supporters are intensely interested in whether he was riding around in a Ford or a Chevy.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Engel did speak to the committee, per this story from a couple weeks ago:

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/08/trump-raised-jan-6-capitol-appearance-secret-service-agent-select-panel-00038217

And said he and Trump disagreed on whether they should go to the Capitol after the speech.

Seems unlikely the committee would have had her tell that crazy-sounding tale if they didn't have corroboration from some other source.


He's allowed to go to the Capitol after a speech


He's not allowed to lead a violent mob to try to overthrow the government, genius.
At the time he was trying to go to the Capitol, the violent Trump mob had breached the Capitol.


That's speculation. He very well could have wanted to go to witness things firsthand and see if he could calm it down.


No it’s not speculation. We know for a fact he did not want to calm them down, he actually refused to do it for hours while law enforcements were in a desperate fight to save the Capitol. His one son Don Jr begged for his father’s intervention, Ivana, Pat Cipollone and Mark Meadows, even Sean Hannity. They all pushed and Trump refused to lift a finger or say anything for hours. So no, this is not speculation, he wanted to go to the Capitol to continue what he had done at the rally
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:

No, it's not. They are two different vehicles.


Your fixation on what model vehicle he was using is weird. If Trump was being peddled around on a tandem bike, that wouldn't make this situation any better.


No not weird. It's a type of fallacy that Trumpers will use to discredit the whole testimony.


Apparently, the testimony is unraveling because the people she supposedly got the information from are saying it's not true.


You people are so illogical. They are anonymously disputing one hearsay point that is not central to her testimony. All the important points are verified and corroborated. The chickenshit Trump defenders could testify under oath but they won’t.
Anonymous
Ans then there’s the witness tampering angle. Whooboy
Anonymous
And what are trumpkins’ talking points on the mafia-style threats reminding people meeting with the committee to “remain loyal”?

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