Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).
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I'm not a swiftie and don't like a lot of her music and I find the suggestion that she should be writing and recording protest music horrifying. Please no. Let her sing her pop songs about the stuff she actually cares about. We do not need her to become the Sean Penn of pop music.
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



"Only the Young" discusses subjects such as school shootings, Donald Trump, and vote-tampering concerns in its lyrics. Upon release, music critics praised Swift's lyricism on United States politics, addressing matters such as gun violence and mass shootings. Some critics have noted it as Swift's most politically charged song yet.

Reflecting Swift's political disillusionment, "Miss Americana & the Heartbreak Prince" is a protest song that uses a high school imagery to critique the contemporary American political climate; it likens the political scene to a high-school setting
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).


It is funny, I wrote the list of possible “shite” above, but mostly because it IS ridiculous to think about TS singing protest songs. She is a pop princess- elevated to queen role now. She has team that is clearly extraordinary, but she is still a pop singer. There isn’t anything wrong with that UNTIL her fans become so very adamant that any negative thought about her is misogynistic. Or the general fan outrage that somehow the music industry is taking away money from its richest performer. Or that she is single handedly running the entire business. Just let that crap go and let her sing pop.
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I guess I’m more of a feminist than I realized because I support a woman’s right to choose what art to make and who to date.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m more of a feminist than I realized because I support a woman’s right to choose what art to make and who to date.


Feminism is supporting a woman’s right to make art, but also supporting other women’s right to say they don’t like that art without hurling insults.

It is like free speech. Sometimes standing up for free speech sucks, but you have to allow it because otherwise you become the oppressor.
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Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m more of a feminist than I realized because I support a woman’s right to choose what art to make and who to date.


I'm a radical feminist and agree with you. All of the Taylor/Travis hate is tiresome.
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).


It is funny, I wrote the list of possible “shite” above, but mostly because it IS ridiculous to think about TS singing protest songs. She is a pop princess- elevated to queen role now. She has team that is clearly extraordinary, but she is still a pop singer. There isn’t anything wrong with that UNTIL her fans become so very adamant that any negative thought about her is misogynistic. Or the general fan outrage that somehow the music industry is taking away money from its richest performer. Or that she is single handedly running the entire business. Just let that crap go and let her sing pop.


Oh, I am with you completely! Let her be a pop princess. I will consume that with a spoon every day of the week. My only point was that the themes of her songs go deeper than what a lot of people think. It irritates me when she is relegated to “teenage love song” status.
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



This isn't Sesame Street.
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).


“You Need to Calm Down”

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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).


“You Need to Calm Down”



"Soon you'll get better" Is probably one of the first songs the made me tear up. Taylor just has a way with lyrics. I'm not a fan of all of her songs, but she covers such a wide range of emotions and topics it is easy to find one of her songs that sticks with you.
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).


“You Need to Calm Down”



"Soon you'll get better" Is probably one of the first songs the made me tear up. Taylor just has a way with lyrics. I'm not a fan of all of her songs, but she covers such a wide range of emotions and topics it is easy to find one of her songs that sticks with you.


Actually just kidding, "Ronan" was the first song to make me tear up.

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Anonymous wrote:I guess I’m more of a feminist than I realized because I support a woman’s right to choose what art to make and who to date.


Feminism is supporting a woman’s right to make art, but also supporting other women’s right to say they don’t like that art without hurling insults.

It is like free speech. Sometimes standing up for free speech sucks, but you have to allow it because otherwise you become the oppressor.


Free speech is not akin to feminism.

Free speech also supports saying women are not equal to men.
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Anonymous wrote:How great if they could go their separate ways like adults. I'm not holding my breath about Taylor not turning this into a double album with all the ways she tried so hard but was ultimately done wrong ("on the goal line" or "in the red zone" or "in the game of love" or how she's "no longer a fan") lol

The game analogies are actually funny to think about!


Maybe they will. But why don't people say this about male artists? No one asks why Post Malone, Ed Sheeran, Rod Stewart, Bruno Mars, Prince, the Righteous Brothers, all of them, wrote break up songs. Hell, Fleetwood Mac thrived on in-your-face break ups, with the two of them still there, and they were applauded for it. What is it about hers that have people so offended? And don't say how many there are. There are tons of her songs that AREN'T. Who cares already.


I think because she started writing break-up songs before she was really formed as an adult. It’s like she never really matured as a woman.


She writes and sings about a variety of subjects as a 'grown woman'. What do you recommend she write and sing about?


Hunger, civil rights, racial justice, how to be a better person, how to forgive, climate change, fearing something other than being a bad lover, how people fit into the universe and the ways other people get treated cruelly (not just Taylor), gun control and the fear not having it generates in children and our society, how someone struggles with depression, not just feeling anxious over loss of control, death.



NP. So if Taylor Swift doesn’t magically transform into Zack De La Rocha, she just shouldn’t make music?


Seriously -who wants to listen to that shite? I want to sing while I'm driving, not solve the world's problems.


Thank you. It’s ok for music to be fun.
But saying that she doesn’t tackle topics beyond her relationships is inaccurate. Here are a few ts songs that address your topics of choice:
gun violence/voting rights: only the young
forgiveness: innocent
depression: evermore, this is me trying, forever winter (suicide)
anxiety: nothing new, peace, castles crumbling, mirrorball, the archer, never grow up
grief/loss: bigger than the whole sky

I could keep going. Yes, I’m a swiftie (obviously).


“You Need to Calm Down”



"Soon you'll get better" Is probably one of the first songs the made me tear up. Taylor just has a way with lyrics. I'm not a fan of all of her songs, but she covers such a wide range of emotions and topics it is easy to find one of her songs that sticks with you.


Actually just kidding, "Ronan" was the first song to make me tear up.



Holy cow that’s good!
Anonymous
Ronan made me a Swift fan. The way Taylor was able to take his mom’s blog and give musicality to it was heartbreaking and amazing.
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