FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

I think the issue is about listening to the parents. That is why Youngkin beat McAuliffe. The current SB is not listening to their community. Sadly, because we really have no local news, lots of people are totally unaware.

This is also what the Supreme Court case from Montgomery County is about.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

Nope, it isn’t. I voted for democrats my entire life, and voted for Kamala this Pat election. Sorry to decimate your far left agenda talking points.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

Rational people look at the map including McLean and Marshall and the F’ing river bordering the east and north and say, oh yeah, that’s why the border is what it is.

The people you are talking about are the extreme left who want equity at all cost.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

Rational people look at the map including McLean and Marshall and the F’ing river bordering the east and north and say, oh yeah, that’s why the border is what it is.

The people you are talking about are the extreme left who want equity at all cost.

Some. But, there are those who have a personal agenda. There was a Herndon mom who spoke to the SB last fall about wanting Great Falls (not sure she called them by name) into Herndon.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

People absolutely can vote for Democrats for national office and be ready to consign this horrible School Board to the dust bin for their hypocrisy and bungling of just about everything they touch, including school boundaries.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

Sounds to me like we all have political views. That is why the School Board should be non-partisan. And, it si not.

There are lots of SB decisions that should have nothing to do with politics. But, when the members have a political agenda--which is pretty obvious with many of them--there is an issue.

Sorry, but after McDaniel came "out" as "bi-sexual," Frisch gave him $15,000 from his political war chest. That is troubling. It is troubling for many reasons. It would appear to reflect a personal agenda. Just like the dog park.

I think most people in Fairfax County think that all kids should be treated fairly. I think most people understand that occasionally boundaries need adjustment--but the community has made it clear--repeatedly--that this should only happen when absolutely necessary.
Most people want stability. This boundary adjustment is anything but stable. And, with people losing government jobs--or jobs with contractors, there is even more instability.

I have lived and worked in other parts of Fairfax than where I currently live and have a little understanding of other areas. But, I sure am not familiar with all areas and I do know--from where I live--that it is easy to look at a map and say--"oh, that would work." But, no, it won't always work because there are other considerations that people who don't live here, don't know.
If you don't live here, you don't know about our community --where people congregate, sports, etc. You don't know where we shop and run into neighbors, etc.

The SB began this process with an emphasis on One Fairfax. Instead, they are promoting Angry Fairfax.

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And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

I think the issue is about listening to the parents. That is why Youngkin beat McAuliffe. The current SB is not listening to their community. Sadly, because we really have no local news, lots of people are totally unaware.

This is also what the Supreme Court case from Montgomery County is about.

They can’t listen to “parents” because parents have many different opinions. I am a parent who supports the boundary review. There are others like me. Listening to opponents of the review isn’t listening to “parents.” It’s listening to some parents.

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And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

I think the issue is about listening to the parents. That is why Youngkin beat McAuliffe. The current SB is not listening to their community. Sadly, because we really have no local news, lots of people are totally unaware.

This is also what the Supreme Court case from Montgomery County is about.

They can’t listen to “parents” because parents have many different opinions. I am a parent who supports the boundary review. There are others like me. Listening to opponents of the review isn’t listening to “parents.” It’s listening to some parents.

Sounds like you did not follow the community participation meetings. Or the prior survey that said how parents feel about boundary shifts.

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And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

I think the issue is about listening to the parents. That is why Youngkin beat McAuliffe. The current SB is not listening to their community. Sadly, because we really have no local news, lots of people are totally unaware.

This is also what the Supreme Court case from Montgomery County is about.

They can’t listen to “parents” because parents have many different opinions. I am a parent who supports the boundary review. There are others like me. Listening to opponents of the review isn’t listening to “parents.” It’s listening to some parents.

I feel like they are listening to themselves and, if a minority of parents support boundary changes, they’re happy to have their support. But they aren’t interested in acknowledging that most parents oppose boundary changes right now.

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They can’t listen to “parents” because parents have many different opinions. I am a parent who supports the boundary review. There are others like me. Listening to opponents of the review isn’t listening to “parents.” It’s listening to some parents.

Why do you support the boundary review?

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

People absolutely can vote for Democrats for national office and be ready to consign this horrible School Board to the dust bin for their hypocrisy and bungling of just about everything they touch, including school boundaries.

Except that the root cause of muck dislike for certain pyramids is the high immigrant population. Poor and ESL. You can argue this all you want but it is the truth. And Iax border security policies endorsed and executed by Democrats is to blame.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

People absolutely can vote for Democrats for national office and be ready to consign this horrible School Board to the dust bin for their hypocrisy and bungling of just about everything they touch, including school boundaries.

Except that the root cause of muck dislike for certain pyramids is the high immigrant population. Poor and ESL. You can argue this all you want but it is the truth. And Iax border security policies endorsed and executed by Democrats is to blame.

You voted for trump to get rid of immigrants, but didn’t look at his economic policy or project 2025. You have zero credibility in this boundary debate. Your judgement of immigration being a bigger issue than citizen rights, upholding the constitution and the economy speaks clearly to the idea you are easily mislead.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

People absolutely can vote for Democrats for national office and be ready to consign this horrible School Board to the dust bin for their hypocrisy and bungling of just about everything they touch, including school boundaries.

Except that the root cause of muck dislike for certain pyramids is the high immigrant population. Poor and ESL. You can argue this all you want but it is the truth. And Iax border security policies endorsed and executed by Democrats is to blame.

You voted for trump to get rid of immigrants, but didn’t look at his economic policy or project 2025. You have zero credibility in this boundary debate. Your judgement of immigration being a bigger issue than citizen rights, upholding the constitution and the economy speaks clearly to the idea you are easily mislead.

This isn't about national politics. This is very local.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

Once again making it clear that you are here for political reasons and not here for the school boundaries.

People absolutely can vote for Democrats for national office and be ready to consign this horrible School Board to the dust bin for their hypocrisy and bungling of just about everything they touch, including school boundaries.

Except that the root cause of muck dislike for certain pyramids is the high immigrant population. Poor and ESL. You can argue this all you want but it is the truth. And Iax border security policies endorsed and executed by Democrats is to blame.

You voted for trump to get rid of immigrants, but didn’t look at his economic policy or project 2025. You have zero credibility in this boundary debate. Your judgement of immigration being a bigger issue than citizen rights, upholding the constitution and the economy speaks clearly to the idea you are easily mislead.

This isn't about national politics. This is very local.

That is not what the PP wrote.
She said it was about immigrants and lax border security policies brought by dems.