FCPS Boundary Review Updates

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There’s a lot of uncertainty because we don’t know what of the “factors” they are going to push, and if the factors are going to be pushed evenly in every pyramid or not. If crowding is the main driver, WSHS is at risk right now per FCPS’s own calculations. I don’t necessarily agree with these calculations - I don’t have kids at WSHS or Irving MS yet but my friends who do say that the schools don’t feel crowded, especially after WS’s recent renovations. If distance is the main driving factor, WS shouldn’t really be touched at this point - most people in bounds for WSHS are physically closest to the HS vs. other schools. Maybe a few kids on the edge are physically closer to South County, but they can’t go there without creating a very lopsided split feeder out of HVES.

But if distance is the main factor, western Great Falls could be at risk. We don’t know, and the BRAC information so far hasn’t given much information.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

The likely reassignment of the Spring Hill island from McLean to Langley and the Spring Gate Apartments from Marshall to McLean means that Tysons will in the future be about 50% Marshall, 30% Langley, and 20% McLean (which will still have to accommodate more growth near the West Falls Church Metro).

That means Langley won't be just single-family homes in the future, and further growth in Tysons, if/when it materializes, will push kids into other schools at some point.

FCPS is playing long ball here.

I think this is smart. Tysons needs to b3 absorbed by several high schools. The planned population of Tysons is 100k, up from 10k a few years ago. Now, most of the apartments are better for singles and dinks of every age, but there will still be school aged children. This suggested set up would be a good start in anticipating whatever happens.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

My neighborhood is not being considered for Herndon or Langley--though it could be an unwanted domino.

Ask yourself, why was the boundary drawn like that to start with? Pretty clear, they needed to fill Langley and Herndon was full.

In the future, it might be needed, but I still don't see how you are going to fill Langley by doing this. And, as long as almost 200 kids are using IB to transfer to South Lakes, it seems logical that eliminating IB option would solve the projection of an underenrolled Herndon. THRU and the SB should take boundary membership as the number--not exclude the number exiting the school.

That is just common sense.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

People also wonder why Langley got a fancy renovation while other schools, including McLean, are in disrepair. Well, we don’t wonder that much because it’s clear that the wealthy and demanding Langley population gets whatever it wants. Their opposition group (funded above $50,000) is hard at work to make sure it happens again. Including their recent aggression to get additional slots on BRAC where they continue to dominate and demand.

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

People also wonder why Langley got a fancy renovation while other schools, including McLean, are in disrepair. Well, we don’t wonder that much because it’s clear that the wealthy and demanding Langley population gets whatever it wants. Their opposition group (funded above $50,000) is hard at work to make sure it happens again. Including their recent aggression to get additional slots on BRAC where they continue to dominate and demand.

Was it in the "queue?"

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

People also wonder why Langley got a fancy renovation while other schools, including McLean, are in disrepair. Well, we don’t wonder that much because it’s clear that the wealthy and demanding Langley population gets whatever it wants. Their opposition group (funded above $50,000) is hard at work to make sure it happens again. Including their recent aggression to get additional slots on BRAC where they continue to dominate and demand.

Was it in the "queue?"

DP. Langley was in the queue and got a renovation on schedule. No special favors.

They built additions to several high schools outside the queue, including Justice and Madison, and McLean deserved an addition more than either of those schools, both of which were built after McLean and were less crowded. But, again, that’s on FCPS staff and the School Board, not Langley. Langley and McLean may be “rivals,” but most at Langley would have been happy for McLean to have gotten an addition.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

No, sweetie, we know that some parts of the county are more dense than others.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

DP. What on earth are you babbling about?

People can find Donald Trump and Karl Frisch repulsive in equal measure for different reasons.

And a Republican Governor can absolutely affect local school policy in Fairfax. Miyares already sent one middle school a cease-and-desist order for a civil rights violation, and Youngkin’s administration is monitoring this boundary review in FCPS carefully.

And the bit about banning books? Give me a break. It’s a classic far-left trope to claim we have to be neutral about what books are in school libraries and not exercise any discretion (so the smutty books are fine), but it’s also fine to impose progressive values on public school students (the issue in the MoCo case currently before the Supreme Court involving mandatory training on gender and sexuality).

When it comes to boundaries this crowd will never convince people it’s based on a desire to operate more efficiently because we’ve seen first-hand how willing folks like Frisch and McDaniel are to waste tens of millions on unnecessary projects like Dunn Loring ES.

[Anonymous]

My child will be a rising junior when the changes are made. I will not allow him to be moved high schools that late. Over my dead body.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

I live across the county.

When I look at the Langley zone map, and I think dang, those rich people have really huge yards and estates. It's like they are living in the semi rural district I grew up in where the boundaries are huge because almost everyone has a lot of property.

The Langley boundaries make sense to me when you consider how big the properties are out there, just like the Robinson boundaries make sense for the same reason.

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

FCPS was consistently the top school district in the country when it has a majority republican school board...

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Anonymous wrote:Come on, folks.

Let’s be realistic. The school board will never approve a move from Langley to Herndon. Herndon is over 60% capacity, and when/if South Lakes High School (SLHS) closes to transfers, Herndon’s enrollment will only increase.

Let’s stop talking about that scenario. It’s a waste of time.

They seem fairly anchored to leaving schools within the 60-105% range alone, but that's just one of their "guiding principles." They also refer to alignment with Policy 8130 and the SB (if not Thru) could identify that as an independent basis to move kids from Langley to Herndon regardless of whether Langley is over 105% or Herndon under 60%.

I'm not advocating for this. I just think that, politically, the optics are horrible if they propose to move kids who live within a mile or two of West Springfield to Lewis or South County, and do nothing to move at least some Langley kids to Herndon when Herndon is much closer. It makes it look as if all the talk about transportation efficiencies was a sham and they got bullied into leaving Langley alone. I've heard all the arguments about how traffic is worse in Herndon so the commuting times wouldn't be reduced as much as you'd think, but people will look at the maps and draw their own conclusions.

They don't really care about optics when it comes to Langley/Herndon.

For the past ten years, I've heard talk of moving Great Falls kids from Langley to Herndon. For some reason, certain posters keep bringing it up.

Doesn’t matter what they think. It's not going to happen.

Full stop.

Why because you and your rich friends founded some sort of association that is lobbying against it? Donating thousands to school board members? You're trying to buy your way out of being rezoned and everybody knows it.

I am in FairFACTs Matters and no where close to Langley nor Herndon. Nor WSHS and Lewis.

There’s also no requirement to donate anything.

+2 it’s literally just a FB group. You can join it whenever you want!

A Fb group that raised over $50,000.

They regularly pay for FOIA requests, which add up.

I wouldn't donate to them, but I hope they are using the funds for what they were intended for.

Thanks for that information. Sad that there has to be a group that needs FOIA. I am grateful to those who donate. If FCPS would be more transparent, FOIA would not be necessary.

It was only through FairFacts’ advocacy that the BRAC member list was disclosed and that they started putting their meeting notes online. Otherwise we’d all be in the dark about this.

Also noting they just posted this. Thus far, this has been the only way for community members to engage with the closed-door BRAC. The pyramid nor special interest members are not doing this unless you happen to have a direct connection.

“For those looking to send community feedback, please email us at [e-mail] with your questions or comments. We have already submitted three communications reflecting community feedback and will continue to share the most commonly asked questions moving forward. We will provide previous communications with community feedback below.“

How disgusting that these people are only sharing information with a small handful of members of the county who live in one specific area and not everyone.

Also it's clearly not a Facebook group when they have their own domain.

Maybe you don’t understand. Fairfacts matters is soliciting feedback to provide to Fairfax County, since they have spots on BRAC now. They are opening the dialogue to everyone across the county, not just one particular pyramid. Oh, and it seems that anyone can join- it’s a county-wide organization.

I’m guessing you understand and that you are just desperately trying to make them the bad guy, but just in case you didn’t understand, I figured i would directly address your concerns.

Are they politically motivated? Just answer the question.

If you're asking if the group is a bunch of Republicans calling attention to school boundaries in an effort to swing elections, the answer is a definitive "no."

There are certainly a handful of republicans who reminded the group in its first weeks that they voted for the fairfax dems who have had re-districting for equity on their agenda for years now. A few independents who tell the group to accept equity redistricting as the price to pay for all the dem stuff they want their school board to do.

Mostly it's democrats who just want to stay democrats and to work with the board for the outcome they want. The LAST thing they want is to vote for republicans or be called republicans.

Thanks, I just have nightmares about Joanne Sears and Rory Cooper whose open FCPS effort had a very clear Republican agenda and whose agenda worked - angry mommas elected Glenn Youngkin. I don't want a repeat of that.

And, you think shifting kids all over the county is going to elect a Democrat?

All I'm saying is that I'm tired of these politically motivated organizations saying they're doing what's best for students when really it's all about politics. I've seen it all over this board and it's going to get worse as we get closer and closer to the election. Every year like clockwork, they come and they post here (both sides) and try to scare parent into voting for them by talking about how horrible the schools are. The truth it, the schools are good, and motivated students with parents who guide them are going to do great no matter where they are zoned.

Hi there. I can tell you that I used to vote for Democrats, but can’t anymore because of the boundary changes. I don’t think I could live with myself if I voted the same way at the national level, but the democrats have really shot themselves in the foot with the boundary change stuff. There is a reason why those political groups focus on this issue - It’s broadly unpopular across the political spectrum.

If you’re just saying that you don’t want scrutiny of the school board and it’s extreme actions/agenda, just say it, don’t dance around the issue. It sounds like you ardently believe in the boundary changes, and are trying to deflect scrutiny on them. Just say that.

This is the PERFECT example of a political troll coming on here trying to influence people to think that this one issue worth voting for a Republican (everyone can make their own decision but personally I am against banning books and guns in the classroom, so there's that). I can spot y'all from a mile away, I hope that everyone else can too. I am NOT a single issue voter. My child's school is likely to change, but I'd rather that than have all the things that come with a Republican school board. Again, NOT a single issue voter. People here need to do their research on ALL candidates and ALL of their opinions. And note that a Republican governor has ZERO influence on the school board, so don't base your gubernatorial vote on boundary studies.

FCPS was consistently the top school district in the country when it has a majority republican school board...

when was that?

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Anonymous wrote:People need to stop obsessing about Langley.

People look at the map and wonder why they are being moved, then look at the Langley zone covering the whole width of the county and say WTF. They recognize that something is going on and they are getting the short end while others aren't. They may wonder why so many families who live closer than they do to Herndon HS aren't going there. Or why we still don't have a Western HS that would have fixed overcrowding issues we are still dealing with today (hint: it would have dramatically changed the areas feeding into Herndon HS, and made room for more from the north)

I live across the county.

When I look at the Langley zone map, and I think dang, those rich people have really huge yards and estates. It's like they are living in the semi rural district I grew up in where the boundaries are huge because almost everyone has a lot of property.

The Langley boundaries make sense to me when you consider how big the properties are out there, just like the Robinson boundaries make sense for the same reason.

Yes, I live in GF in a neighborhood where all the lots are 6+ acres. It's a big neighborhood physically with maybe 5 kids.