Gaza War, Part 3

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?


Nasty comment.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


Really? So the hostages are suffering because of the conditions created by Israel in Gaza. Kill 22,000 and make 2.3 million homeless but complain about how the hostages are treated? We all know the IDF does not take prisoners.
The truth the Israeli government does not want the hostages released because they are from a “liberal” area and the government is right wing. Much better to have dead martyred(killed by Israel or Hamas) vs having a live liberal who opposes Bibi.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?


Nasty comment.



Yeah, really.

Most of those hostages were drugged up when they were released. And are now dealing with their trauma. Not exactly something for public consumption.

Given the brutality of the Hamas massacres on 10/7, it's unlikely any remaining hostages are still alive. Both the women and the men. They will have been tortured to death.

The savagery of Hamas is not to be underestimated.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?


Nasty comment.



Yeah, really.

Most of those hostages were drugged up when they were released. And are now dealing with their trauma. Not exactly something for public consumption.

Given the brutality of the Hamas massacres on 10/7, it's unlikely any remaining hostages are still alive. Both the women and the men. They will have been tortured to death.

The savagery of Hamas is not to be underestimated.


They’ve held Shalit for five years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


Really? So the hostages are suffering because of the conditions created by Israel in Gaza. Kill 22,000 and make 2.3 million homeless but complain about how the hostages are treated? We all know the IDF does not take prisoners.
The truth the Israeli government does not want the hostages released because they are from a “liberal” area and the government is right wing. Much better to have dead martyred(killed by Israel or Hamas) vs having a live liberal who opposes Bibi.


At least one hostage already confronted Bibi about the horror of having to tell two four year old girls in her care— one American— that the bombs killing those around them were being dropped by the same people who hadn’t protected them on Oct 7.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?


Nasty comment.



Yeah, really.

Most of those hostages were drugged up when they were released. And are now dealing with their trauma. Not exactly something for public consumption.

Given the brutality of the Hamas massacres on 10/7, it's unlikely any remaining hostages are still alive. Both the women and the men. They will have been tortured to death.

The savagery of Hamas is not to be underestimated.


They’ve held Shalit for five years.



That was then. When having an IDF prisoner meant something

Hamas took roughly 250 people. Mostly children, women, and older people. The men are presumably all dead by now.

You'll notice that Hamas hasn't taken any IDF prisoners since then. And the IDF is taking losses. Meanwhile, the IDF has tons of Hamas militants in custody.

You tell me? Who's doing the raping and torturing?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?


Nasty comment.


Perhaps you haven’t seen this today?

https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/05/opinion/israel-hostage-war-government.html


Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


They were vetoed by the U.S at Israel’s request.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


I don't think the hostages that were released had anything atrocious to report. I mean to be kidnapped is bad enough but no one was tortured. They certainly fared better than their friends who tried to surrender but were shot dead by IDF. That'll be the end of hostages trying to locate friendly IDF troops, don't you think?


Nasty comment.


+1 sarcastic vitriol.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


Hamas has been unable to keep them safe. We know that some of them needed medicine and other things to survive. There was CCTV footage of injured hostages held by armed Hamas terrorists retrieved from hospitals. There is inadequate food, water and so on. I agree, many have probably died. Also, they wouldn't have to dodge bombs if they surrendered and turned the hostages loose. Enough already.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Where are the hostages? It’s day 91.


And, where are the calls to release them?


Are you brain damaged? The calls to release the hostages have been coming from day one. But Hamas continues to play games. And one sad truth is that a significant number of the hostages are already dead yet Hamas continues to try and use them as bargaining chips, because they have nothing else.


My guess is that the hostages that a were released are the only ones left alive. Hamas didn’t release 1:1 hostages for prisoners because they didn’t have enough to give. Chances are most of them were killed within 48 hours. That’s the tragic statistic for kidnapping and murder in general, why wouldn’t it hold for this scenario? Children who are kidnapped and murdered are typically killed in the first few hours. Terribly sad but true.



Hostages are kidnapped to get something, not to kill them. If Hamas aimed to kill them, they could have easily done it on Oct 7. It would certainly be easier than dragging them across the border and then feed them, treat them and move them constantly so they don't get killed by Israeli bombs.


The bolded is essentially correct.

But one of the things that terrorists want to "get" is revenge. I hate to say it, but it's likely that some of the remaining hostages have been tortured or abused to such an extent that Hamas cannot release them for political reasons.

They'll simply disappear or Hamas will claim that they were "killed in an Israeli airstrike".

Others may be out of Hamas's direct control at this point--given the number of hostages, Hamas almost certainly had to outsource their captivity to affiliated groups and individuals.

Given the fog of war, I doubt Hamas even has the ability to track all of them down at this point.

+1000
It is so sad/infuriating to think of the fate of the remaining hostages, especially given the reports of abuse suffered by those who were released. How much worse must those remaining be treated for Hamas to decide it would be bad PR for them to let them go and tell their stories?


Really? So the hostages are suffering because of the conditions created by Israel in Gaza. Kill 22,000 and make 2.3 million homeless but complain about how the hostages are treated? We all know the IDF does not take prisoners.
The truth the Israeli government does not want the hostages released because they are from a “liberal” area and the government is right wing. Much better to have dead martyred(killed by Israel or Hamas) vs having a live liberal who opposes Bibi.


The bombing wouldn't have happened if Hamas hadn't gone on its bloody rampage. FA/FO. Blame Hamas. The rest of your drivel is your own delusional BS.
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