Lively/Baldoni Lawsuit Part 2

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Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

But then all of this damaging evidence wouldn’t have come out which has lead to overwhelming public support for Justin. He and the defendants certainly won in the court of public opinion

Even if you believe that, which I don't, it may well be a hollow victory as their careers in Hollywood are over.

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Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

But then all of this damaging evidence wouldn’t have come out which has lead to overwhelming public support for Justin. He and the defendants certainly won in the court of public opinion

Even if you believe that, which I don't, it may well be a hollow victory as their careers in Hollywood are over.

Maybe. Certainly doesn’t matter to my life, I couldn’t care less either way

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

I disagree. They started weird rumors about him fat shaming her, and Ryan was walking around, calling him a sexual predator. And then being dropped from his agency, which they orchestrated in August according to texts between Brandon and Blake. I really feel like Justin had to fight back and get his side of the story out.

I don’t get the take that his career is over. He is CEO of Wayfarer and they are still coming out with projects and funded by Steve Sarowitz. I don’t get the impression that he was trying to be a leading man.

Just last night at the Met Gala Gabrielle Union was raving about a movie she was working on with Wayfarer so I think in the industry they are fine.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

And they too have their hefty legal bills to contend with. An expensive lesson learned.

That along with the 250 million loss from Wrexham Reynolds is dealing with does not sound fun.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

But then all of this damaging evidence wouldn’t have come out which has lead to overwhelming public support for Justin. He and the defendants certainly won in the court of public opinion

Lively was actually pretty cooperative about keeping the stuff from the 17 point list private. Justin's biggest concern was "if her concerns came to light," but his own actions fueled the fire. People always say Lively fueled the fire by unfollowing and not walking the carpet with him. But Justin fueled it just as much... if he and TAG had not been caught in their texts saying "we can't write we will destroy her," "this is what we need," etc, the creepy stuff he did on set would not have come to light. Lively didn't even bring it up amid the bad publicity around the premiere. She just wanted an apology that was fairly vague, IIRC it said "troubled set."

So, yeah, I actually do think if they had just paid a lawyer to negotiate the kind of statement she wanted from them in 2024, plus release of any other claims she might have had, Wayfarer would have never needed to win in the court of public opinion because we would never have known anything. They are equally as responsible as Lively for this fiasco, which hurt both sides.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

But then all of this damaging evidence wouldn’t have come out which has lead to overwhelming public support for Justin. He and the defendants certainly won in the court of public opinion

Lively was actually pretty cooperative about keeping the stuff from the 17 point list private. Justin's biggest concern was "if her concerns came to light," but his own actions fueled the fire. People always say Lively fueled the fire by unfollowing and not walking the carpet with him. But Justin fueled it just as much... if he and TAG had not been caught in their texts saying "we can't write we will destroy her," "this is what we need," etc, the creepy stuff he did on set would not have come to light. Lively didn't even bring it up amid the bad publicity around the premiere. She just wanted an apology that was fairly vague, IIRC it said "troubled set."

So, yeah, I actually do think if they had just paid a lawyer to negotiate the kind of statement she wanted from them in 2024, plus release of any other claims she might have had, Wayfarer would have never needed to win in the court of public opinion because we would never have known anything. They are equally as responsible as Lively for this fiasco, which hurt both sides.

Issuing that apology would have been the end of him. He had no choice

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It's an extremely bland PR statement thay doesn't say much of anything. It's a "being the bigger person" negotiated nod to her not an admission of guilt.

The "being the bigger person" phase ended a long time ago. This doesn't sound like the type of settlement where everyone just walked away, at least one side made a concession.

Yep, Blake did

What did she say?

She dropped her lawsuit and walked away with nothing but severe and self inflicted reputations and financial damage

Sounds like she got an acknowledgment for her complaint, that's not nothing.

Wayfarer could have just given that two years ago when she asked for it instead of hiring Wallace and TAG. They could have negotiated Ryan's OTT apology letter to a statement like this and saved themselves a big scandal. They also could have settled this case early instead of filing their actually frivolous, bad faith claims that were completely dismissed.

But then all of this damaging evidence wouldn’t have come out which has lead to overwhelming public support for Justin. He and the defendants certainly won in the court of public opinion

Lively was actually pretty cooperative about keeping the stuff from the 17 point list private. Justin's biggest concern was "if her concerns came to light," but his own actions fueled the fire. People always say Lively fueled the fire by unfollowing and not walking the carpet with him. But Justin fueled it just as much... if he and TAG had not been caught in their texts saying "we can't write we will destroy her," "this is what we need," etc, the creepy stuff he did on set would not have come to light. Lively didn't even bring it up amid the bad publicity around the premiere. She just wanted an apology that was fairly vague, IIRC it said "troubled set."

So, yeah, I actually do think if they had just paid a lawyer to negotiate the kind of statement she wanted from them in 2024, plus release of any other claims she might have had, Wayfarer would have never needed to win in the court of public opinion because we would never have known anything. They are equally as responsible as Lively for this fiasco, which hurt both sides.

Issuing that apology would have been the end of him. He had no choice

I did say he should have negotiated the apology into something similar to the statement that was issued yesterday.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It says her concerns deserved to be heard. Which means her concerns were not lies, were not exaggerated or trumped up, were not a manipulation to take over a movie.

It validates her.

Notice the statement doesn't validate any of Baldoni's or Wayfarer's defenses.

But it doesn’t say what concerns. It could be concerns about Lily’s outfits not being sufficiently sexy or the lunch hour being too short.

Her getting no money speaks volumes.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It says her concerns deserved to be heard. Which means her concerns were not lies, were not exaggerated or trumped up, were not a manipulation to take over a movie.

It validates her.

Notice the statement doesn't validate any of Baldoni's or Wayfarer's defenses.

But it doesn’t say what concerns. It could be concerns about Lily’s outfits not being sufficiently sexy or the lunch hour being too short.

Her getting no money speaks volumes.

Exactly. The statement says nothing. It’s just a little bone for BL to try to avoid complete and utter humiliation.

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Anonymous wrote:She wasted her met gala moment. She should have used to signal a wiser, better Blake 2.0. Shows up with the same hair she's had for 20 years and the same pink/pastel colors. Could have appeared with a new maturity and sophistication. Is Hollywood going to take back the same Blake?

Agree, same old look. And already a headline about her being an obnoxious and snapping at helpers at the gala. Stay classy Blake

Totally. Hours after her settlement showing up in public and she can't even hold it together enough to walk the carpet without being a total b++ch, sniping at the attendants trying to help her out. Never change, Blake.

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Anonymous wrote:There clearly was a strategic leak to tmz about no money changing hands. The article has been edited since it was originally published to add the “it appears” language.

Oof. If TMZ wrote that without a leak, they could get sued. If someone actually leaked, there could be a round 2 of this. The NDAs would have teeth.

TMZ is not a party to the NDA so cannot be sued

Seems like the statement is allowed under the terms of the settlement anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It says her concerns deserved to be heard. Which means her concerns were not lies, were not exaggerated or trumped up, were not a manipulation to take over a movie.

It validates her.

Notice the statement doesn't validate any of Baldoni's or Wayfarer's defenses.

Of course it validates her. There is no universe which it doesn't. What does not do: offer a shred of validation for Baldoni or Wayfarer.

[Anonymous]

I'm finding it hard to believe that Lively signed a settlement that doesn't include any money and also allows Baldoni to tell his side of the story, which Freedman said he would do.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It says her concerns deserved to be heard. Which means her concerns were not lies, were not exaggerated or trumped up, were not a manipulation to take over a movie.

It validates her.

Notice the statement doesn't validate any of Baldoni's or Wayfarer's defenses.

Of course it validates her. There is no universe which it doesn't. What does not do: offer a shred of validation for Baldoni or Wayfarer.

There is no apology, or mention of sexual harassment or retaliation. On the other hand, she walked away with zero dollars. I’ve been a litigator for over two decades and have never seen a plaintiff walk away without even a nuisance payment. It’s a huge loss for her.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"We acknowledge the process presented challenges and recognize concerns raised by Ms. Lively deserved to be heard."

You don't make this concession on a frivolous lawsuit. There would be no reason to do so. This sentence strongly indicates that Wayfarer felt they had more to lose at trial than Lively did.

This statement doesn’t say what you seem to think it does

It says her concerns deserved to be heard. Which means her concerns were not lies, were not exaggerated or trumped up, were not a manipulation to take over a movie.

It validates her.

Notice the statement doesn't validate any of Baldoni's or Wayfarer's defenses.

Of course it validates her. There is no universe which it doesn't. What does not do: offer a shred of validation for Baldoni or Wayfarer.

They don’t need it. They’ve already been validated