#JustinsTrafficJam

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this tjread. Wow the traffic on seminary is now insane. We now have a flood of cars pouring down Fort Williams parkway and Trinity that used to be a trickle. Thank you, Waze. Thanks even more to Justin and the council who were persuaded by the Transurban-bought Nike lobby. Thanks all!

We’ve started a petition to drop the speed limit to 15 and introduce no left turn signs at strategic intersections within area neighborhoods to keep the traffic on Quaker and Seninary, and off of the side street cut throughs.

Please consider signing it!

Just an FYI - that probably isn’t happening on Fort Williams. I know this is new for you all, for most of your fellow Central Alexandria neighbors have dealt with that traffic for years on a near daily basis. There is close to zero chance the city will do anything to push more traffic on those roads. One of the central tenets of the Central Alexandria Traffic Task Force is that the city would look for wholesale rather than piecemeal solutions to cut through. And SHA already voted against a turn restriction on east Trinity, so any relief to west Trinity is a no go.

[Anonymous]

Thanks for the info! We’re going to try anyhow. Doing nothing seems worse to me!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for the info! We’re going to try anyhow. Doing nothing seems worse to me!

Of course! I would expect nothing less. Why work with your neighbors who are suffering from the same issues when you can just try to screw them over on two fronts (voting against turn restrictions for them but petition it for yourselves!).

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this tjread. Wow the traffic on seminary is now insane. We now have a flood of cars pouring down Fort Williams parkway and Trinity that used to be a trickle. Thank you, Waze. Thanks even more to Justin and the council who were persuaded by the Transurban-bought Nike lobby. Thanks all!

We’ve started a petition to drop the speed limit to 15 and introduce no left turn signs at strategic intersections within area neighborhoods to keep the traffic on Quaker and Seninary, and off of the side street cut throughs.

Please consider signing it!

Transurban is for road diets and better/safer walking and bicycling? That's great, but why?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this tjread. Wow the traffic on seminary is now insane. We now have a flood of cars pouring down Fort Williams parkway and Trinity that used to be a trickle. Thank you, Waze. Thanks even more to Justin and the council who were persuaded by the Transurban-bought Nike lobby. Thanks all!

We’ve started a petition to drop the speed limit to 15 and introduce no left turn signs at strategic intersections within area neighborhoods to keep the traffic on Quaker and Seninary, and off of the side street cut throughs.

Please consider signing it!

Just an FYI - that probably isn’t happening on Fort Williams. I know this is new for you all, for most of your fellow Central Alexandria neighbors have dealt with that traffic for years on a near daily basis. There is close to zero chance the city will do anything to push more traffic on those roads. One of the central tenets of the Central Alexandria Traffic Task Force is that the city would look for wholesale rather than piecemeal solutions to cut through. And SHA already voted against a turn restriction on east Trinity, so any relief to west Trinity is a no go.

The changes to Seminary seem like a piecemeal solution.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So the President of VTS apparently offered to cede land to the city for the construction of a sidewalk today.

Just two weeks ago, they were congratulating the city on the road diet (after they had privately promised neighbors opposition to such a plan) and were seeking for a city-paid installation of said sidewalk.

I wonder if someone told them that might jeopardize their tax exempt status?

It's hard to decide whether th Seminay is more of a snake or a weasel. First, they stab their neighbors in the back, then they seek more handouts, then they back off and play nice once they realize they are likely shooting themselves in the foot.

What a disgusting group of people.

This is so, so, so far from over.

I can't wait to see where it goes from here.

They did not stab anyone in the back. They took a position. They have been supporting that position for over a year. No one should be surprised.

They did not seek any handouts.

The vitriolic attacks on one of the City's oldest and most distinguished institutions says more about you then them.

They absolutely betrayed their neighbors. And they absolutely sought to have the city give them a sidewalk. It's indisputable. Whether or not youre educated on the matter isn't my concern.

They have done more harm to their name than anything I or anyone else could do.

Shame on the Seminary.

Building a sidewalk on a road is not a handout.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this tjread. Wow the traffic on seminary is now insane. We now have a flood of cars pouring down Fort Williams parkway and Trinity that used to be a trickle. Thank you, Waze. Thanks even more to Justin and the council who were persuaded by the Transurban-bought Nike lobby. Thanks all!

We’ve started a petition to drop the speed limit to 15 and introduce no left turn signs at strategic intersections within area neighborhoods to keep the traffic on Quaker and Seninary, and off of the side street cut throughs.

Please consider signing it!

Transurban is for road diets and better/safer walking and bicycling? That's great, but why?

Transurban is not for road diets. They gave some money as part of community support to a program for bikes in the schools. That was funneled through some safety focused orgs.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just saw this tjread. Wow the traffic on seminary is now insane. We now have a flood of cars pouring down Fort Williams parkway and Trinity that used to be a trickle. Thank you, Waze. Thanks even more to Justin and the council who were persuaded by the Transurban-bought Nike lobby. Thanks all!

We’ve started a petition to drop the speed limit to 15 and introduce no left turn signs at strategic intersections within area neighborhoods to keep the traffic on Quaker and Seninary, and off of the side street cut throughs.

Please consider signing it!

Just an FYI - that probably isn’t happening on Fort Williams. I know this is new for you all, for most of your fellow Central Alexandria neighbors have dealt with that traffic for years on a near daily basis. There is close to zero chance the city will do anything to push more traffic on those roads. One of the central tenets of the Central Alexandria Traffic Task Force is that the city would look for wholesale rather than piecemeal solutions to cut through. And SHA already voted against a turn restriction on east Trinity, so any relief to west Trinity is a no go.

The changes to Seminary seem like a piecemeal solution.

The changes to Seminary were part of the Complete Streets plan and the Bike/pedestrian master plan, not the Central Alex Traffic study.

[Anonymous]

A poll being taken now on whether residents want to keep the changes or go back to the way it was

https://www.alxnow.com/2020/01/14/poll-should-the-city-rethink-the-seminary-road-diet/?fbclid=IwAR11ooz3U2YHmTwwuQModUoQL552SX_WMOUXaeA4peCyD7nRRDNZQBp7-yk

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:A poll being taken now on whether residents want to keep the changes or go back to the way it was

https://www.alxnow.com/2020/01/14/poll-should-the-city-rethink-the-seminary-road-diet/?fbclid=IwAR11ooz3U2YHmTwwuQModUoQL552SX_WMOUXaeA4peCyD7nRRDNZQBp7-yk

Almost 2 to 1 in favor of returning it to its previous state.

How will Justin try and explain that?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A poll being taken now on whether residents want to keep the changes or go back to the way it was

https://www.alxnow.com/2020/01/14/poll-should-the-city-rethink-the-seminary-road-diet/?fbclid=IwAR11ooz3U2YHmTwwuQModUoQL552SX_WMOUXaeA4peCyD7nRRDNZQBp7-yk

Almost 2 to 1 in favor of returning it to its previous state.

How will Justin try and explain that?

Oh yes, the well-known accuracy of on-line clickbait polls.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A poll being taken now on whether residents want to keep the changes or go back to the way it was

https://www.alxnow.com/2020/01/14/poll-should-the-city-rethink-the-seminary-road-diet/?fbclid=IwAR11ooz3U2YHmTwwuQModUoQL552SX_WMOUXaeA4peCyD7nRRDNZQBp7-yk

Almost 2 to 1 in favor of returning it to its previous state.

How will Justin try and explain that?

Oh yes, the well-known accuracy of on-line clickbait polls.

Youre right. The complete absence of any actual bikes using the lanes, the 1000+ neighbors opposed to the configuration, the Fire Chief being told (privately) to shut up and say the road is fine, the multiple DASH bus drivers telling people how horrible it is, the many doctors and nurses at the Hospital bemoaning the traffic, etc

It's all just imagination. The votes to return the road must be a conspiracy!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:A poll being taken now on whether residents want to keep the changes or go back to the way it was

https://www.alxnow.com/2020/01/14/poll-should-the-city-rethink-the-seminary-road-diet/?fbclid=IwAR11ooz3U2YHmTwwuQModUoQL552SX_WMOUXaeA4peCyD7nRRDNZQBp7-yk

Almost 2 to 1 in favor of returning it to its previous state.

How will Justin try and explain that?

Oh yes, the well-known accuracy of on-line clickbait polls.

Youre right. The complete absence of any actual bikes using the lanes, the 1000+ neighbors opposed to the configuration, the Fire Chief being told (privately) to shut up and say the road is fine, the multiple DASH bus drivers telling people how horrible it is, the many doctors and nurses at the Hospital bemoaning the traffic, etc

It's all just imagination. The votes to return the road must be a conspiracy!

The actual data...

During the evening rush, the peak travel period has been 5:15 PM to 5:30 PM. Prior to the change, the average travel time from the intersection of Quaker Lane and Seminary Road to Jordan Street and Seminary Road was 3.5 minutes. In November, after the changes were implemented, we saw a 40% increase in this travel time, with an average of 4.9 minutes. In December (excluding holidays and days when school is not in session), the average travel time was down to 3.9 minutes, an increase of 24 seconds from before the changes.

During the morning rush, the peak travel period has been 8:15 AM to 8:30 AM. Prior to the change, the average travel time from the intersection of Quaker Lane and Seminary Road to Jordan Street and Seminary Road was 3.6 minutes. In November, after the changes were implemented, we saw a 98% increase in this travel time, with an average of 7.1 minutes. In December (excluding holidays and days when school is not in session), the average travel time was down to 4.7 minutes, an increase of a bit over a minute from before the changes.

You're complaining about literally a minute or two.

[Anonymous]

Well, a FOIA release that was just written up in the Alexandria Times confirms that the city lied like crazy about whether the fire department agreed with the total re-do of Seminary Road. Turns out they weren’t even asked and were then, later, told to publicly agree. This really makes the Mayor look like an outright bullying liar to everybody. The story is at: https://alextimes.com/2020/01/my-view-putzu-part-1/

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Well, a FOIA release that was just written up in the Alexandria Times confirms that the city lied like crazy about whether the fire department agreed with the total re-do of Seminary Road. Turns out they weren’t even asked and were then, later, told to publicly agree. This really makes the Mayor look like an outright bullying liar to everybody. The story is at: https://alextimes.com/2020/01/my-view-putzu-part-1/

This information is shocking for lack of timely notification and required input from Alexandria Fire Department ! A big thank you to Frank Putzu!