WAPO article about sever FFX school budget cuts

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Anonymous wrote:Yes. Why not. Then maybe those parents will up and move

oh. o.k. I though maybe that was where the pp was headed, but didn't want to come right out and say it.

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Anonymous wrote:anyone here know Carol Horn's salary. Seems hard to find.

Can't find it, right? My guess is that it is excessive!

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Oh brother, I can't believe the same anti-AAP posters saying the same things over and over again have hijacked this thread too. AAP barely takes any budget -- transportation is very minimal, teacher ratio the same as all other classes in the same schools, no special materials. If you really care about the schools and all kids in general, try to see past this one program that bothers you and focus on larger issues.

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They cut the libraries but then brought back a lot of money for them. These should be cut back again. Especially after the whole book trashing issue. I didn't hear about anyone suffering when they had shorter hours.

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Anonymous wrote:They cut the libraries but then brought back a lot of money for them. These should be cut back again. Especially after the whole book trashing issue. I didn't hear about anyone suffering when they had shorter hours.

I suffer. Society suffers.

[Anonymous]

Oh brother, I can't believe the same anti-AAP posters saying the same things over and over again have hijacked this thread too. AAP barely takes any budget -- transportation is very minimal, teacher ratio the same as all other classes in the same schools, no special materials. If you really care about the schools and all kids in general, try to see past this one program that bothers you and focus on larger issues.

Then how about you show us those "minimal" transportation costs?

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FY 2014 Budget Sources:
http://www.fcps.edu/fs/budget/documents/approved/FY14/ProgramBudgetFY2014.pdf
http://www.fcps.edu/fs/budget/documents/CitizensGuidetoBudget.pdf

Overall Budget: $2.5 Billion
Overall Transportation Costs: $137 million
"Regular" Transportation: $116 million
AAP Transportation: $4.49 million =.18% (less than 2/10 of one percent of budget)
Other $17 million -- other special program transportation

Moreover, presumably AAP transportation costs partially offset the Regular Transportation costs, since those kids are not using the regular buses, so the "true" cost of AAP transportation is even less.

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Anonymous wrote:FY 2014 Budget Sources:
http://www.fcps.edu/fs/budget/documents/approved/FY14/ProgramBudgetFY2014.pdf
http://www.fcps.edu/fs/budget/documents/CitizensGuidetoBudget.pdf

Overall Budget: $2.5 Billion
Overall Transportation Costs: $137 million
"Regular" Transportation: $116 million
AAP Transportation: $4.49 million =.18% (less than 2/10 of one percent of budget)
Other $17 million -- other special program transportation

Moreover, presumably AAP transportation costs partially offset the Regular Transportation costs, since those kids are not using the regular buses, so the "true" cost of AAP transportation is even less.

Is TJ transportation included in AAP?

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No TJ transportation was a separate line item, I think it was $1.25 million.

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what about magnet transportation: Baileys?

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AAP Transportation: $4.49 million =.18% (less than 2/10 of one percent of budget

at $150000 per teacher, that would hire 30 teachers........

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Anonymous wrote:what about magnet transportation: Baileys?

Is this is a joke to get me to keep looking back at the report?! You could look it up too! The other transportation categories were magnet schools ($450K), private school transportation for special ed kids whose needs could not be met by FCPS ($4.1 million), Academy HS programs ($2.2 million), late buses ($5.1 million) and a couple others.

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Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

The peer groups are (often dramatically) different.

I know AAP parents love to believe that their snowflakes are in class only with other snowflakes. But please. GE and AAP kids are just not that different. With the exception of a very few, these kids are virtually indistinguishable. As a parent of both AAP and GE kids, I've seen it all. It's embarrassing how some parents of AAP kids firmly believe their children are somehow the elite; and then their kids pick up on that attitude as well. I cringe when I have to admit that I have a child in AAP as I don't want other parents to think I'm one of "those" obnoxious parents.

so cut funding for a program because the parents are obnoxious?

Cut funding for a program that is pretending to educate two different groups of kids, who in reality, aren't that different at all. It's a ridiculous division of classes. Create a much smaller program for kids who actually need the different learning environment and stop pretending that AAP is a gifted program.

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AAP Transportation: $4.49 million =.18% (less than 2/10 of one percent of budget

at $150000 per teacher, that would hire 30 teachers........

So that would benefit, hmm, 750-900 kids tops? Something like 10-12,000 students participate in the AAP program.

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Cut funding for a program that is pretending to educate two different groups of kids, who in reality, aren't that different at all. It's a ridiculous division of classes. Create a much smaller program for kids who actually need the different learning environment and stop pretending that AAP is a gifted program.

Yeah, I don't think the Special Ed kids are that different either -- from what I can tell. I think this PP and I should get to decide who actually needs something different.