WAPO article about sever FFX school budget cuts

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if we make a shorter school year, ending before Memorial Day weekend? So little is done in June anyway.

Great Idea!

How do you get the state required 180 days?

It's not days required, it is hours required. How about long days per week? I wonder how much would be saved in busing, electricity etc. Although, parents would be required to find additional care, so would their money be better spent on increased taxes to keep schools open 5 days a week?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What if we make a shorter school year, ending before Memorial Day weekend? So little is done in June anyway.

Great Idea!

How do you get the state required 180 days?

It's not days required, it is hours required. How about long days per week? I wonder how much would be saved in busing, electricity etc. Although, parents would be required to find additional care, so would their money be better spent on increased taxes to keep schools open 5 days a week?

If the days are longer but fewer, then there will be more homework per day and less time to do homework and other activities. That probably means even less sleep for the students.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:All this misses the point.

The FY13 Budget was $2.4B
The FY14 Budget is $2.5B

There are no cuts. The budget is going up by $100,000,000.00 The "cuts" are from the dream request.

They have more money!

Heh you. Easy with the numbers here. The sky is falling and your numbers are not helping.

[Anonymous]

Um, wow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

The peer groups are (often dramatically) different.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

The peer groups are (often dramatically) different.

Isn't the teacher teaching the majority of the class in middle school? How many group projects could the class possibly do that the peer group would really matter? Most of the class is a student's individual ability. As long as the material is challenging to an individual student, why would it matter what level the others are at?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

The peer groups are (often dramatically) different.

Isn't the teacher teaching the majority of the class in middle school? How many group projects could the class possibly do that the peer group would really matter? Most of the class is a student's individual ability. As long as the material is challenging to an individual student, why would it matter what level the others are at?

Because the depth and the speed covered by the instructor will vary depending upon an all AAP peer group and a mix of AAP-eligible and open enrollment to try an honors course peer group.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

The peer groups are (often dramatically) different.

I know AAP parents love to believe that their snowflakes are in class only with other snowflakes. But please. GE and AAP kids are just not that different. With the exception of a very few, these kids are virtually indistinguishable. As a parent of both AAP and GE kids, I've seen it all. It's embarrassing how some parents of AAP kids firmly believe their children are somehow the elite; and then their kids pick up on that attitude as well. I cringe when I have to admit that I have a child in AAP as I don't want other parents to think I'm one of "those" obnoxious parents.

[Anonymous]

I know AAP parents love to believe that their snowflakes are in class only with other snowflakes. But please. GE and AAP kids are just not that different. With the exception of a very few, these kids are virtually indistinguishable. As a parent of both AAP and GE kids, I've seen it all. It's embarrassing how some parents of AAP kids firmly believe their children are somehow the elite; and then their kids pick up on that attitude as well. I cringe when I have to admit that I have a child in AAP as I don't want other parents to think I'm one of "those" obnoxious parents.

Great and valid statement!

[Anonymous]

anyone here know Carol Horn's salary. Seems hard to find.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:anyone here know Carol Horn's salary. Seems hard to find.

May be a good place to start cutting?? Oh and send her AART's with her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:If honors and AAP are the same, we can at least eliminate bussing for middle school AAP centers. That should save something.

Honors and AAP at the middle school level are not the same. See:

http://www.fcps.edu/is/aap/pdfs/AAPforMSdiagram.pdf

This is truly a load of hogwash. The two programs are identical, they are just being described using slightly different verbiage. Probably to make AAP parents think their kids are actually getting a special program, just for them. "AAP" and "Honors" classes are one in the same, and it's actually pretty funny to see how they're trying so hard to describe them differently, but can't.

The peer groups are (often dramatically) different.

I know AAP parents love to believe that their snowflakes are in class only with other snowflakes. But please. GE and AAP kids are just not that different. With the exception of a very few, these kids are virtually indistinguishable. As a parent of both AAP and GE kids, I've seen it all. It's embarrassing how some parents of AAP kids firmly believe their children are somehow the elite; and then their kids pick up on that attitude as well. I cringe when I have to admit that I have a child in AAP as I don't want other parents to think I'm one of "those" obnoxious parents.

so cut funding for a program because the parents are obnoxious?

[Anonymous]

Yes. Why not. Then maybe those parents will up and move