Should financial aid in private school be stricter?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone accepting financial aid at private schools is accepting donations. They are receiving philanthropy. It is expected that they are trying to get themselves back on solid financial footing so they can get off aid.

They should be actively trying to turn their life around so they no longer need charity.

Also, they should try to give back every cent that they received in financial aid to give another kid the same opportunity they had.

Donors are generous because they expect recipients to work towards paying their bills independently and to give back.

+1 financial aid is given to those who are likely to give back in the future. This is why high income recipients are more deserving.

[Anonymous]

Just break it down for me. Why is everyone so mad about this? Not a troll just wondering.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone accepting financial aid at private schools is accepting donations. They are receiving philanthropy. It is expected that they are trying to get themselves back on solid financial footing so they can get off aid.

They should be actively trying to turn their life around so they no longer need charity.

Also, they should try to give back every cent that they received in financial aid to give another kid the same opportunity they had.

Donors are generous because they expect recipients to work towards paying their bills independently and to give back.

+1 financial aid is given to those who are likely to give back in the future. This is why high income recipients are more deserving.[/quote

Makes total sense. We should also provide financial aid to Jeff bezos.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just break it down for me. Why is everyone so mad about this? Not a troll just wondering.

My guess is the some folks are stressed out about the economic situation and a random guy comes to propose a cut in financial aid.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone accepting financial aid at private schools is accepting donations. They are receiving philanthropy. It is expected that they are trying to get themselves back on solid financial footing so they can get off aid.

They should be actively trying to turn their life around so they no longer need charity.

Also, they should try to give back every cent that they received in financial aid to give another kid the same opportunity they had.

Donors are generous because they expect recipients to work towards paying their bills independently and to give back.

+1 financial aid is given to those who are likely to give back in the future. This is why high income recipients are more deserving.

Makes total sense. We should also provide financial aid to Jeff bezos.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Just break it down for me. Why is everyone so mad about this? Not a troll just wondering.

My guess is the some folks are stressed out about the economic situation and a random guy comes to propose a cut in financial aid.

That makes sense thanks.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:This thread is something else.

It’s very revealing about how parents think about inclusion. And how upper middle class families feel entitled to financial aid.

Let's get real: This thread is a poster child of the seething elitism that permeates at least the striver subculture in NOVA. They want to be the lords of their newfound elite fiefdom, didn't you hear they "made it" y'all, and they are obnoxiously rude to anybody they perceive as earning less HHI than them, like middle class parents, and wish to trash and exclude them like a school bully. It's very high school. But, they post a meme once a year about caring for the poors or whatever is fashionable to try to cloak the stench of their bully poo - like spraying secret deodorant on pits without showering a month. Nope, you still stink as a human being.

In your example a full pay striver who "made it" doesn't want a "low income" kid. Actually, IRL that persona WOULD want a low income kid. Why? That kid has zero possibility to compete with theirs in the social landscape. The ones that they would want to EXCLUDE in your example would be the middle class kids. Why? Because most of these strivers pull up the ladder behind them. This has been demonstrated over and over and over in literature about minority groups in organizations.

So, let me get this straight - you would prefer that the striving UMC pull up the ladders behind them that would allow a larger portion of middle class families access to private education in lieu of a tiny sub-population of truly low income deserving kids? So wierd.

I support deserving middle class financial aid. It helps the largest number of students. More people helped = better for my dollars. Period.

[Anonymous]

Here’s my two cents — this will probably be buried, but oh well. I think people underestimate how expensive it is to live in this area. A $50k-a-year family paying $1,700 in rent for a 2-bed at the low end couldn’t even afford the $500–$1,500 a month financial aid that some more prestigious schools would give. A $135k-a-year family in a $300k townhome also couldn’t afford it. It’s a lose-lose situation — no one can afford any of this.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do not feed the troll

Yes, saying that financial aid for low income families is trolling.

"saying that financial aid for low income families" is factually incorrect. Financial aid is for whomever the school decides to give it to. It is a private institution.

I have more problems with in Trump giving executive orders to cancel DEI in profitable public companies that just so happen to be federal contractors. Similar to private schools, they should be allowed to do whatever they want with their internal programs.

Sure. I also think it’s ok to say that financial aid is not going to families in need. I don’t see anything wrong in having full disclosure.

No private institution is required to give full public disclosure. You are not entitled to it. It is, however, very entitled of you to think that you are though.

Maret discloses it. What’s wrong with that? What’s incorrect about requesting transparent information? Of course, unless you want to hide something.

Nothing is wrong with requesting it or disclosing it. I never said that. I said the thinking that you are entitled to see the financials from a private institution is entitled. They can say 'no' to your request. They are not required to divulge that information; they can choose to divulge it. For example, I would not give you my private business financials, ever - don't ask.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something else.

It’s very revealing about how parents think about inclusion. And how upper middle class families feel entitled to financial aid.

Let's get real: This thread is a poster child of the seething elitism that permeates at least the striver subculture in NOVA. They want to be the lords of their newfound elite fiefdom, didn't you hear they "made it" y'all, and they are obnoxiously rude to anybody they perceive as earning less HHI than them, like middle class parents, and wish to trash and exclude them like a school bully. It's very high school. But, they post a meme once a year about caring for the poors or whatever is fashionable to try to cloak the stench of their bully poo - like spraying secret deodorant on pits without showering a month. Nope, you still stink as a human being.

In your example a full pay striver who "made it" doesn't want a "low income" kid. Actually, IRL that persona WOULD want a low income kid. Why? That kid has zero possibility to compete with theirs in the social landscape. The ones that they would want to EXCLUDE in your example would be the middle class kids. Why? Because most of these strivers pull up the ladder behind them. This has been demonstrated over and over and over in literature about minority groups in organizations.

So, let me get this straight - you would prefer that the striving UMC pull up the ladders behind them that would allow a larger portion of middle class families access to private education in lieu of a tiny sub-population of truly low income deserving kids? So wierd.

I support deserving middle class financial aid. It helps the largest number of students. More people helped = better for my dollars. Period.

I never mentioned the hypothetical low income students. I said middle class.

But please, humor me - at what schools are "LOW INCOME" families applying to in droves and their financial aid is snatched up by middle class folks. Tell me all about it

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something else.

It’s very revealing about how parents think about inclusion. And how upper middle class families feel entitled to financial aid.

Let's get real: This thread is a poster child of the seething elitism that permeates at least the striver subculture in NOVA. They want to be the lords of their newfound elite fiefdom, didn't you hear they "made it" y'all, and they are obnoxiously rude to anybody they perceive as earning less HHI than them, like middle class parents, and wish to trash and exclude them like a school bully. It's very high school. But, they post a meme once a year about caring for the poors or whatever is fashionable to try to cloak the stench of their bully poo - like spraying secret deodorant on pits without showering a month. Nope, you still stink as a human being.

In your example a full pay striver who "made it" doesn't want a "low income" kid. Actually, IRL that persona WOULD want a low income kid. Why? That kid has zero possibility to compete with theirs in the social landscape. The ones that they would want to EXCLUDE in your example would be the middle class kids. Why? Because most of these strivers pull up the ladder behind them. This has been demonstrated over and over and over in literature about minority groups in organizations.

So, let me get this straight - you would prefer that the striving UMC pull up the ladders behind them that would allow a larger portion of middle class families access to private education in lieu of a tiny sub-population of truly low income deserving kids? So wierd.

I support deserving middle class financial aid. It helps the largest number of students. More people helped = better for my dollars. Period.

Your post is awful in terms of stereotyping. Are there underperforming low income kids. Yes. Are there underperforming middles class kids. Yes.

Just pick the top performing low income kids and problem solved. There are a lot of middle class families that don’t get financial aid and they are fine. So if you cut it nothing will happen to the school or to those families. Some middle class families will leave and some other middle class families that pay full Tuition will come. Very simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This thread is something else.

It’s very revealing about how parents think about inclusion. And how upper middle class families feel entitled to financial aid.

Let's get real: This thread is a poster child of the seething elitism that permeates at least the striver subculture in NOVA. They want to be the lords of their newfound elite fiefdom, didn't you hear they "made it" y'all, and they are obnoxiously rude to anybody they perceive as earning less HHI than them, like middle class parents, and wish to trash and exclude them like a school bully. It's very high school. But, they post a meme once a year about caring for the poors or whatever is fashionable to try to cloak the stench of their bully poo - like spraying secret deodorant on pits without showering a month. Nope, you still stink as a human being.

In your example a full pay striver who "made it" doesn't want a "low income" kid. Actually, IRL that persona WOULD want a low income kid. Why? That kid has zero possibility to compete with theirs in the social landscape. The ones that they would want to EXCLUDE in your example would be the middle class kids. Why? Because most of these strivers pull up the ladder behind them. This has been demonstrated over and over and over in literature about minority groups in organizations.

So, let me get this straight - you would prefer that the striving UMC pull up the ladders behind them that would allow a larger portion of middle class families access to private education in lieu of a tiny sub-population of truly low income deserving kids? So wierd.

I support deserving middle class financial aid. It helps the largest number of students. More people helped = better for my dollars. Period.

Your post is awful in terms of stereotyping. Are there underperforming low income kids. Yes. Are there underperforming middles class kids. Yes.

Just pick the top performing low income kids and problem solved. There are a lot of middle class families that don’t get financial aid and they are fine. So if you cut it nothing will happen to the school or to those families. Some middle class families will leave and some other middle class families that pay full Tuition will come. Very simple.

Middle class can’t afford any of this shit, you guys are so out of touch.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Do not feed the troll

Yes, saying that financial aid for low income families is trolling.

"saying that financial aid for low income families" is factually incorrect. Financial aid is for whomever the school decides to give it to. It is a private institution.

I have more problems with in Trump giving executive orders to cancel DEI in profitable public companies that just so happen to be federal contractors. Similar to private schools, they should be allowed to do whatever they want with their internal programs.

Sure. I also think it’s ok to say that financial aid is not going to families in need. I don’t see anything wrong in having full disclosure.

No private institution is required to give full public disclosure. You are not entitled to it. It is, however, very entitled of you to think that you are though.

Maret discloses it. What’s wrong with that? What’s incorrect about requesting transparent information? Of course, unless you want to hide something.

Nothing is wrong with requesting it or disclosing it. I never said that. I said the thinking that you are entitled to see the financials from a private institution is entitled. They can say 'no' to your request. They are not required to divulge that information; they can choose to divulge it. For example, I would not give you my private business financials, ever - don't ask.

That fine except that most schools are not corporations but non-profit. So by law are required to disclose some financial information to anyone that asks for it. So yes, requesting disclosure it’s normal and legally allowed for many private schools.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People with ability to pay who game the system are not a reason to ban middle class families who cannot afford full pay from financial aid.

And most "poor" families don't even bother applying - would you? There's a lot of incidental costs involved with private school - the uniforms, aftercare, hot lunches, special lunches, the billion special outfits day, like hey wear your favorite football jersey this week, baseball next week, fave green pants, orange shirt, colonial costume, etc etc. The classist vibe. I don't think DD's grade has any poor families at all.

Yes we have to subsidize middle class families so they can cover their incidentals like the bmw, trips to Europe, the mortgage, etc etc

If this is the way you feel, why the heck are you participating in a system clearly against your values?! You're a total hypocrite!

That’s exactly my point. You should erase inclusion from your vocabulary if you want to be a bit more honest.

You should think more carefully about what inclusion means.

If you consider yourself an inclusive person and would, for example, "include" anyone in your family that your child chooses to marry - would you also include a rapist serial killer who beats your grandchildren? I wouldn't. I would purposefully exclude them from family gatherings.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone accepting financial aid at private schools is accepting donations. They are receiving philanthropy. It is expected that they are trying to get themselves back on solid financial footing so they can get off aid.

They should be actively trying to turn their life around so they no longer need charity.

Also, they should try to give back every cent that they received in financial aid to give another kid the same opportunity they had.

Donors are generous because they expect recipients to work towards paying their bills independently and to give back.

+1 financial aid is given to those who are likely to give back in the future. This is why high income recipients are more deserving.

+1 financial aid is more of a loan that the school would like to get back in donations. Give it to the families who can repay the loan.