Do you let your dog off leash ever?

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Anonymous wrote:I have taught my child to stay far away from unleashed dogs due to the immediate danger but also due to the fact that people who don’t follow leash laws don’t follow other laws either. Their dogs are likely not properly trained and vaccinated, and the owner won’t prevent their dogs from biting someone or stick around to verify if someone is ok if they do get bitten. This thread is really, really proving my point.

I hope you tell your kid to stay away from leashed dogs too. Not every dog likes kids and when they run up to you waving their arms and screaming they want to pet your dog that can be scary for the dog!

Train your kids too

Why are dog people so obsessed with comparing dogs to kids. We are discussing dogs. Keep your nasty, filthy beast away from children.

Why do parents get so triggered when you tell them to respect dogs and not assume that they want your kids petting them? Most dogs are not nasty or filthy.

But you just proved to be nasty yourself! So unnecessarily aggressive.

We're not "triggered". You're off-topic, making this thread about something it's not in order to deflect from your wrong approach to walking your dog. We're trying to help you, because you're wrong, and you seem lost.

Focus and follow the thread, which will solve your problem.

It is right on target since the poster above me said 'keep leashed dogs and away from kids' I agree but parents should instruct their kids to respect dogs. Of course, if your kid is scared they probably won't but I am talking to other people.

No buts. Keep your dog to yourself. Period. End of sentence.

The butt is keep you kids from running up to my leashed dog.

Get it?

No. Nobody gets it. If your dog is leashed, and you see kids "running up to" it, say "S/he bites" and walk away. That's YOUR JOB. Your job as a dog owner is to protect your dog from any/all threats, including these kids you made up in your hypothetical scenario that didn't ever actually happen and probably won't.

It did and I yelled at the kid to not come closer. My dog hasn't bittem but is nervous around unpredctable screaming kids.

Why can't parents tell their kids to not run up to leashed dogs.

Why are you pushing back on something so easy to fix. And not believing me? Why would I lie?

Maybe we'd care about your completely off-topic point if you made your own thread about it?

Probably not. at this point, we're all sick of hearing your tired nonsense, but we're definitely tired of seeing it here.

This is (still) a thread about off-leash dogs, not underparented children. You are not a victim, you are the AH continually trying to derail the thread with your unrelated pet peeve.

I am just giving parents a friendly reminder. You are not a very nice person to call someone an ASs@hole for particpating in a voluntary discussion.

If you are tired of readig something the solution isn't you bossing me but YOU reading something else.

Hope you have a day you deserve.

Oh, honey. You're "not a very nice person" for posting this preachy screed instead of simply taking your own advice.

"participating" in a discussion involves following the thread, contributing useful RELEVANT information, etc. Showing up to derail to your own unrelated pet peeve is a dick move.

But thanks for showing an example of the victim mentality the pp mentioned.

I am having the day I deserve. It's fscking excellent!

You are strange, weird person. I am not a victim. Honestly you are derailing the conversation more than I ever did.

Your day will come.

My day? When people leash their dogs and leave me alone, you mean?

WHEN, LORD, WHEN?! When's it gonna be my time?!!

Hahahaha +1. don’t threaten me with a good time 😂😂😂😂

I can't imagine anyone and especially dog owners wanting to be near you!

I have friends and family. Unlike you - guessing your dog is your only friend.

Well you are wrong.

I highly doubt that. Do you even have kids?

Why would you doubt that? And this isn't the thread. If you want to change the topic start a new thread.

Weird

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.

As someone who’s not a dog lover or a pet lover of any kind, thank you!! You’ve summed up my feelings perfectly. Maybe they will listen to you since you actually have a dog!

Maybe you didn’t follow the thread. Yea, it’s an official dog run. Just during off hours (early AM and PM).

Relax you freaks

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.

As someone who’s not a dog lover or a pet lover of any kind, thank you!! You’ve summed up my feelings perfectly. Maybe they will listen to you since you actually have a dog!

Maybe you didn’t follow the thread. Yea, it’s an official dog run. Just during off hours (early AM and PM).

Relax you freaks

You are the one not following. It is an i formal dog run.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.

As someone who’s not a dog lover or a pet lover of any kind, thank you!! You’ve summed up my feelings perfectly. Maybe they will listen to you since you actually have a dog!

Maybe you didn’t follow the thread. Yea, it’s an official dog run. Just during off hours (early AM and PM).

Relax you freaks

You are the one not following. It is an i formal dog run.

No, you didn’t follow. Turns out it’s legal during certain hours. Relax, you freaks. Jesus

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Anonymous wrote:So many of us have posted in this thread about our kids being scared of dogs, dogs running up to our kids etc. kids running up to strange dogs is just not the problem you’re making it out to be. Keep your dog leashed and don’t let it touch me or my kid. Thanks!!

I have a kid who is terrified of dogs and I can't stand off leash dogs or dogs on long leads where the owner isn't controlling them fir this reason.

However, there are absolutely kids who will walk right up to dogs and try to pet them. I've seen my kid's friends do this many times, and I'm always surprised by it because my kid would never. I didn't have to train my kid not to do it, but some kids do need to be trained on this.

It is the parents fault but some dog owners make it worse by taking their dogs to kid-friendly places and encouraging kids to interact with the dogs without telling them how to do so safely. People often try to get my kid to come pet their dog even though she obviously doesn't want to, and will sometimes be visibly offended when she says no. We make sure she knows it's always okay for her to decline an invite to interact with a dog, but many kids are adult pleasers by nature and this can make them feel like they are supposed to pet dogs or adults will be hurt. It's dumb. No one is required to pet your dog, praise your dog, be interested in your dog.

Again, the main problem is not kids running up to dogs. It is the dog owners, FULL F ING STOP. I have had this experience so many times - it's almost offensive to people if you don't want to kneel down and worship their dog, you or your children. I have had dog owners literally cross the street after me when I cross the street to avoid their dog, trying to get myself and my kid to interact when we clearly don't want to. Most dog owners are verging on mentally ill at this point.

I cannot state this enough. KEEP YOUR DOG TO YOURSELF. I don't want to touch your dog. I don't want your dog to touch me. My kid also does not want to touch or be touched by your dog. JUST STOP IT.

Best post on this thread.

lol this didn’t happen

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Anonymous wrote:So many of us have posted in this thread about our kids being scared of dogs, dogs running up to our kids etc. kids running up to strange dogs is just not the problem you’re making it out to be. Keep your dog leashed and don’t let it touch me or my kid. Thanks!!

I have a kid who is terrified of dogs and I can't stand off leash dogs or dogs on long leads where the owner isn't controlling them fir this reason.

However, there are absolutely kids who will walk right up to dogs and try to pet them. I've seen my kid's friends do this many times, and I'm always surprised by it because my kid would never. I didn't have to train my kid not to do it, but some kids do need to be trained on this.

It is the parents fault but some dog owners make it worse by taking their dogs to kid-friendly places and encouraging kids to interact with the dogs without telling them how to do so safely. People often try to get my kid to come pet their dog even though she obviously doesn't want to, and will sometimes be visibly offended when she says no. We make sure she knows it's always okay for her to decline an invite to interact with a dog, but many kids are adult pleasers by nature and this can make them feel like they are supposed to pet dogs or adults will be hurt. It's dumb. No one is required to pet your dog, praise your dog, be interested in your dog.

Again, the main problem is not kids running up to dogs. It is the dog owners, FULL F ING STOP. I have had this experience so many times - it's almost offensive to people if you don't want to kneel down and worship their dog, you or your children. I have had dog owners literally cross the street after me when I cross the street to avoid their dog, trying to get myself and my kid to interact when we clearly don't want to. Most dog owners are verging on mentally ill at this point.

I cannot state this enough. KEEP YOUR DOG TO YOURSELF. I don't want to touch your dog. I don't want your dog to touch me. My kid also does not want to touch or be touched by your dog. JUST STOP IT.

Best post on this thread.

lol this didn’t happen

DP and it's a little far fetched but I wouldn't be shocked if it did happen. Some dog owners get dogs explicitly as a social tool and they like the aspect of dog ownership where people say "oh my gosh your dog is so cute" and come up and talk to them and interact with them, and they do try to force this on people. I have absolutely had people bring their dog over explicitly to meet me or my kids. There is a park in my neighborhood that a lot of dog owners let their dogs off leash at (it is specifically not allowed and signed all over the park but it gets ignored broadly) and on many occasions neighbors have seen me with my kids at the playground in the park and come over with their off leash dog to "let the kids say hi" to their dog. I have never said "my kids don't want to say hi to your dog" because I know this would be seen as very unfriendly (but also my kids are not particularly interested in their dogs -- we are just not dog people, don't hate them, but aren't super excited by them). I do ask them to please put their dogs on leashes and they always act like this never occurred to them until I said it.

Idiots. Absolute morons.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.

As someone who’s not a dog lover or a pet lover of any kind, thank you!! You’ve summed up my feelings perfectly. Maybe they will listen to you since you actually have a dog!

Maybe you didn’t follow the thread. Yea, it’s an official dog run. Just during off hours (early AM and PM).

Relax you freaks

You are the one not following. It is an i formal dog run.

No, you didn’t follow. Turns out it’s legal during certain hours. Relax, you freaks. Jesus

No, I'm sorry you can't read.

OP specifically said their "dog run" is unofficial.

Some other posters have posted about parks near them that have formal off leash hours that are signed. Someone mentioned Prospect Park in NY (not OP's park) and others said their parks have this too. But OP did not say this and also the way she describes it does not make it sound like off leash hours (which are usually in the morning or just before dark when there are few if any kids in the park).

Even if OP's park had off leash ours (it doesn't), many other posters have posted about people turning parks near them into "unofficial" dog runs by flouting leash laws. The whole topic of this thread is whether dog owners feel comfortable letting their dogs of leash in places where it is NOT allowed, or if they worry that if their dog were to bite or hurt someone (or some dog) while off leash in a place where leash laws apply, if they would be blamed.

The answer is yes, 100%, if you violate leash laws and neglect to leash your dog anywhere but in designated off leash areas, people will hold you responsible if your dog hurts someone else or someone else's dog. It remains amazing to me that anyone would think this is debatable, and yet here is this thread as a testament to the idiocy of some human beings.

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Anonymous wrote:There is no such thing as an "informal dog run". There may be a group of dog owners regularly breaking the law. That doesn't make it legal. The park is not your personal or collective doggy socialization zone. They do have dog parks for this, if you're interested. That's the appropriate location (or your backyard, but something tells me you'll see the liability issue there, in which case, just apply it to the potential disaster you're creating in a public park and you can answer your own question).

Yes, you should immediately begin following the laws that say you must not only have your dog leashed, but under your control. Do not let your dog approach, sniff, or bark at people without their consent. It's not "being friendly" or "socializing", it's illegal. If you use a retractable leash, STOP. They break, they're dangerous, and they don't allow for sufficient control of your animal.

While you're at it, put your phone away, and make sure your dog's license is visible and their shots are up to date (just in case).

The BS logic of "my dog would never hurt a flea" makes you sound like an idiot, BTW. You know this. I don't. My dog definitely doesn't. And, most importantly, it's not the responsibility of every other person at the public park to learn and know this about you/your dog. It's your job, as a responsible owner, to keep your dog fully under your control at all times.

You've been lucky up until now. Don't push it. You know better, so do better, and tell "all your neighbors" so they can suck less, too.

As someone who’s not a dog lover or a pet lover of any kind, thank you!! You’ve summed up my feelings perfectly. Maybe they will listen to you since you actually have a dog!

Maybe you didn’t follow the thread. Yea, it’s an official dog run. Just during off hours (early AM and PM).

Relax you freaks

You are the one not following. It is an i formal dog run.

No, you didn’t follow. Turns out it’s legal during certain hours. Relax, you freaks. Jesus

No, I'm sorry you can't read.

OP specifically said their "dog run" is unofficial.

Some other posters have posted about parks near them that have formal off leash hours that are signed. Someone mentioned Prospect Park in NY (not OP's park) and others said their parks have this too. But OP did not say this and also the way she describes it does not make it sound like off leash hours (which are usually in the morning or just before dark when there are few if any kids in the park).

Even if OP's park had off leash ours (it doesn't), many other posters have posted about people turning parks near them into "unofficial" dog runs by flouting leash laws. The whole topic of this thread is whether dog owners feel comfortable letting their dogs of leash in places where it is NOT allowed, or if they worry that if their dog were to bite or hurt someone (or some dog) while off leash in a place where leash laws apply, if they would be blamed.

The answer is yes, 100%, if you violate leash laws and neglect to leash your dog anywhere but in designated off leash areas, people will hold you responsible if your dog hurts someone else or someone else's dog. It remains amazing to me that anyone would think this is debatable, and yet here is this thread as a testament to the idiocy of some human beings.

Nope. I’m op. And you are a total freakshow who is way too invested in other people ‘breaking the law’. After the discussion on here, and someone mentioning that their park near where I live allows off leash during certain hours, I went and checked. My local park allows off leash dogs in the AM. I didn’t realize it at first, I just knew that my neighbors all gathered in the early AM with their dogs, so I started joining them. I assumed it was a work schedule thing, but turns out it’s because it’s legal. Ie AUTHORIZED

So you’ll have to find another cause to be angry about today. Good luck

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Anonymous wrote:Dh and I do with our dog in a section of a park nearby our home, it’s an informal dog run that all of our neighbors with dogs use. They love the socialization.

But reading the other threads about dog attacks makes me think we should stop.

We have a golden retriever who would never hurt a flea, but I don’t want someone to think because I had my dog off leash that she deserved to be attacked.

Where do you live, op?

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Anonymous wrote:Dh and I do with our dog in a section of a park nearby our home, it’s an informal dog run that all of our neighbors with dogs use. They love the socialization.

But reading the other threads about dog attacks makes me think we should stop.

We have a golden retriever who would never hurt a flea, but I don’t want someone to think because I had my dog off leash that she deserved to be attacked.

Where do you live, op?

Why do you want to know? So you can stalk? Try to find some loophole that proves me and my neighbors are BREAKING THE LAW!!?

As I mentioned several times, I realized off leash is permitted. So relax, and find something else to write long angry posts about.

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Anonymous wrote:Dh and I do with our dog in a section of a park nearby our home, it’s an informal dog run that all of our neighbors with dogs use. They love the socialization.

But reading the other threads about dog attacks makes me think we should stop.

We have a golden retriever who would never hurt a flea, but I don’t want someone to think because I had my dog off leash that she deserved to be attacked.

Where do you live, op?

Why do you want to know? So you can stalk? Try to find some loophole that proves me and my neighbors are BREAKING THE LAW!!?

As I mentioned several times, I realized off leash is permitted. So relax, and find something else to write long angry posts about.

Calm down. I am not the pp who went off. I was just curious because in the dc area I know of no areas where you can do this.

I don't have time or interest to 'track you down' or call the cops

Maybe you should have a cup of relaxing tea?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Dh and I do with our dog in a section of a park nearby our home, it’s an informal dog run that all of our neighbors with dogs use. They love the socialization.

But reading the other threads about dog attacks makes me think we should stop.

We have a golden retriever who would never hurt a flea, but I don’t want someone to think because I had my dog off leash that she deserved to be attacked.

Where do you live, op?

Why do you want to know? So you can stalk? Try to find some loophole that proves me and my neighbors are BREAKING THE LAW!!?

As I mentioned several times, I realized off leash is permitted. So relax, and find something else to write long angry posts about.

Calm down. I am not the pp who went off. I was just curious because in the dc area I know of no areas where you can do this.

I don't have time or interest to 'track you down' or call the cops

Maybe you should have a cup of relaxing tea?

Sure, sure, you’re not the PP. eyeroll.

I hadn’t checked this thread in awhile and realized it had gone off the rails with weirdos like you obsessed with ‘catching’ people ‘breaking the law’!!!!! Lots of freaks on the Pet forum, I’ve noticed

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Anonymous wrote:Dh and I do with our dog in a section of a park nearby our home, it’s an informal dog run that all of our neighbors with dogs use. They love the socialization.

But reading the other threads about dog attacks makes me think we should stop.

We have a golden retriever who would never hurt a flea, but I don’t want someone to think because I had my dog off leash that she deserved to be attacked.

Where do you live, op?

Why do you want to know? So you can stalk? Try to find some loophole that proves me and my neighbors are BREAKING THE LAW!!?

As I mentioned several times, I realized off leash is permitted. So relax, and find something else to write long angry posts about.

Calm down. I am not the pp who went off. I was just curious because in the dc area I know of no areas where you can do this.

I don't have time or interest to 'track you down' or call the cops

Maybe you should have a cup of relaxing tea?

Sure, sure, you’re not the PP. eyeroll.

I hadn’t checked this thread in awhile and realized it had gone off the rails with weirdos like you obsessed with ‘catching’ people ‘breaking the law’!!!!! Lots of freaks on the Pet forum, I’ve noticed

I'm not. I think it is fine and wish I had the same in my neighborhood.

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Anonymous wrote:So many of us have posted in this thread about our kids being scared of dogs, dogs running up to our kids etc. kids running up to strange dogs is just not the problem you’re making it out to be. Keep your dog leashed and don’t let it touch me or my kid. Thanks!!

I have a kid who is terrified of dogs and I can't stand off leash dogs or dogs on long leads where the owner isn't controlling them fir this reason.

However, there are absolutely kids who will walk right up to dogs and try to pet them. I've seen my kid's friends do this many times, and I'm always surprised by it because my kid would never. I didn't have to train my kid not to do it, but some kids do need to be trained on this.

It is the parents fault but some dog owners make it worse by taking their dogs to kid-friendly places and encouraging kids to interact with the dogs without telling them how to do so safely. People often try to get my kid to come pet their dog even though she obviously doesn't want to, and will sometimes be visibly offended when she says no. We make sure she knows it's always okay for her to decline an invite to interact with a dog, but many kids are adult pleasers by nature and this can make them feel like they are supposed to pet dogs or adults will be hurt. It's dumb. No one is required to pet your dog, praise your dog, be interested in your dog.

Again, the main problem is not kids running up to dogs. It is the dog owners, FULL F ING STOP. I have had this experience so many times - it's almost offensive to people if you don't want to kneel down and worship their dog, you or your children. I have had dog owners literally cross the street after me when I cross the street to avoid their dog, trying to get myself and my kid to interact when we clearly don't want to. Most dog owners are verging on mentally ill at this point.

I cannot state this enough. KEEP YOUR DOG TO YOURSELF. I don't want to touch your dog. I don't want your dog to touch me. My kid also does not want to touch or be touched by your dog. JUST STOP IT.

I definitely don't believe this. No one cares that much about you, really.

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OP is a troll. Once they got flack for illegally using a park they changed their story and now it's totes fine! Loollll yeah right.