USC and Columbia Protests

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic to the protestor’s cause but can’t stop thinking that they are such idiots in how they are trying to get their point across. Wouldn’t it make more sense to protest the political leaders making the decisions to fund the war instead of the universities that are subsidizing their education? Don’t they know that their tuition dollars don’t even cover the cost of their own education- even for those who are paying full tuition and I’m guessing that many of the o student protestors are gettin merit aid. Dont’ they have any respect for their fellow students who want to access the education that they are paying for? Do any of them support sending support to Ukraine? They just come off as idiots who could use more time in the classroom honing their critical thinking skills.

they’re protesting Columbia’s investment in Microsoft 🤡

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:All I have to say is the poor Arabs. Jews should not be targeted but neither anyone who speaks their minds politically. Anti semitism should not include being able to stand up for Palestine/Gaza. I really feel strongly that Jews who keep putting down these protesters are in the wrong. It's not about whether the protesters are right but that they should be allowed to express their sentiments without being attacked publicly. People don't understand that universities have always been the battlefront of intense political dialogue - education is where ideas and thoughts are expressed and absorbed. Questioning and debate, considerations and strong sentiments are the way the young learn. To take away the rights of these kids is basically censorship.

NP. I saw a video tonight where the “kids” you are defending were screaming “Go back to Poland” at Jewish students. Something like 96% of Polish Jews were killed by the Nazis. Is this the side and behavior you are defending?

Except they are not Columbia students, they are confirmed agitators.

Al Jazeera news has video of students holding signs that Palestine will be free by any means necessary. Violence is being advocated for.

Jews are claiming to be scared to death of "WORDS" while Palestinian women and children are actually getting slaughtered by a Jewish ethono state. Y'all are full of jokes.

This absurd. This isn’t just a bunch of misguided students peacefully protesting what they view as the Israeli government overstepping their rights to self defense, this is radicals supporting a recognized international terrorist organization and actively calling for genocide and the dissolution of the Israeli State, often specifically targeting Jewish students, staff, and passers who have zero connection to the Israeli government, and denying Israel any right to defend their nation following 10/7.

Criticizing Israel is perfectly fine. Israel has, in the past, made decisions I do not agree with, but that is different then glorifying Hamas and denying Israel the right to measured self defense.

How do you “correctly” criticize Israel? Posting on anonymous boards? Telling your friends? Putting a Canva pdf on IG?

I think there are two general baselines you should be aware of:

1) Hold both Israel and Hamas accountable. This is probably one of the biggest problems right now. Just for one example, I do not believe anybody doesn’t want a ceasefire right now, but the rhetoric from the far-left has been that Israel needs to commit to a one-sided ceasefire regardless of whether Hamas will commit to one - or whether any such ceasefire would be enforceable. Similarly, Israeli has been accused of genocide, but yet Hamas - who has long claimed openly that their goal is the genocide of the Israeli people - is not charged with the same. It is not fair or appropriate to hold Israel to a higher standard than other participants in the war. Also, keep in mind that this doesn’t just include current participants, but also the global community. For example, despite the rhetoric regularly thrown around, Israel current offensive is not killing civilians at a higher rate than other modern wars, and in fact is, generally, impressively efficient at minimizing casualties. Now, of course, any civilian casualties are a tragic reality in war, but why is Israel being held to what, according to most legitimate experts on the matter, are unrealistic and unprecedented goals? https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/12/05/middleeast/israel-hamas-military-civilian-ratio-killed-intl-hnk

2) Acknowledge Israel’s right to exist, and right to defend itself. Israel is a country, and has the right to defend itself against an aggressor (Hamas). Protest should stem from the understanding that Israel will remain a country, and that it has the right to defend itself. You can criticize how it is currently defending itself, but calling for Palestine/Hamas to take over Israel “from the rice to the sea” should be avoided.

3) (bonus) Avoid the standard anti-Semitic stereotypes, conspiracies, and other hate that has been on the rise. This includes claiming Jews secretly control the world (or the US), or that Jews just want to take over the Gaza Strip because they are greedy, evil goblins with long noses and pointy ears. Avoid references to the Holocaust, unless it is clearly topical, and remember that many American (and International) Jews have relatives and/or good friends in Israel. Remember that you don’t know if someone has a daughter who was raped and murdered at the music festival on 10/7, or has a cousin who is - either voluntarily or not - currently on active duty with the IDF and currently in Gaza. Respect if they do not want to talk about it, and understand their perspective. Under no circumstances should you be targeting or seeking out Jewish people as targets for your ire. This is a form of extreme anti-demotion that holds Jewish people globally accountable for crimes (or perceived crimes) by Israel.

I just have one word for you: the West Bank. There are no evil Hamas members there, and the cute Palestinians live there. Settler violence has risen, empowered by Israeli leader Benjamin Netanyahu's coalition with far-right politicians who have denied the existence of Palestinians and promised a record expansion of settlements in the West Bank.

[Anonymous]

Honestly things are really shaping up way better than I could have hoped for with this whole thing since October.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic to the protestor’s cause but can’t stop thinking that they are such idiots in how they are trying to get their point across. Wouldn’t it make more sense to protest the political leaders making the decisions to fund the war instead of the universities that are subsidizing their education? Don’t they know that their tuition dollars don’t even cover the cost of their own education- even for those who are paying full tuition and I’m guessing that many of the o student protestors are gettin merit aid. Dont’ they have any respect for their fellow students who want to access the education that they are paying for? Do any of them support sending support to Ukraine? They just come off as idiots who could use more time in the classroom honing their critical thinking skills.

Did you feel the same about protestors demanding university endowments divest from South Africa? Those protests went over relatively well in the 70s and 80s. Maybe the protestors are realizing that Israel and it's have more power over US institutions and are doubling down.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

The response to these protests is going to breed a whole new generation of antisemites and will breath new life into the Jews control .... conspiracies

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

Take a look at the overwhelming Demographic that is committing the felonies. They've been chosen as a protected class from standards and made excuses for at all times. The Pro-Palestinian protesters do not have that same affirmative-action level of victimhood.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

Does anyone ever wonder why people feel free to use the term "the Jews" when we would (rightly) excoriate anyone who refers to "the Blacks" or "the Mexicans" or "the Chinese"?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

The response to these protests is going to breed a whole new generation of antisemites and will breath new life into the Jews control .... conspiracies

The protests were already filled with a generation of antisemites. It's a wash.

[Anonymous]

Bottles thrown at NYPD at NYU.

Nice non-violent protests. I imagine that burning things down comes next.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

The response to these protests is going to breed a whole new generation of antisemites and will breath new life into the Jews control .... conspiracies

+1 It's where the far right meets the far left

Jewish space lasers don't sound so crazy anymore, do they guys? Right? You're already basically spouting off every anti-semitic trope there is without a second's thought. Might as well get in on that one, too. And wouldn't some nice tiki torches help keep those tent cities well lit at night?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why are the anti war/Gazan marches seen as more offensive than the Charlottesville “jews won’t replace us” march?

There are a lot of similarities between progressives and neo-nazis today. They both subscribe to the old trope that Jews run the world. They both see things through a very rigid ideological lens. They both have very retrogade beliefs about the role of women - I mean just look at the protestors celebrations of Hamas, one of the world's most profoundly misogynistic organizations. And I think it fair to say that no one wants to work in an office with such purveyors of hate, whether they be progressives or neo-nazis.

The pathetic marchers in Charlottesville were all doxxed and have been dealing with the consequences of their vile beliefs. The same should happen with the progressive students that are espousing similar hateful sentiments. When students are chanting "We are Hamas" and "Long live Hamas" that is not merely protesting against the Netanyahu government. That is something much deeper. And it's frightening.

Does anyone ever wonder why we'll shield felons from the consequences of their actions, but people who merely protest against the jews get attacked for the rest of their lives for it?

Does anyone ever wonder why people feel free to use the term "the Jews" when we would (rightly) excoriate anyone who refers to "the Blacks" or "the Mexicans" or "the Chinese"?

As a Jew, no, I don't wonder at all. I know why, no matter how much these people try to gaslight me.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Bottles thrown at NYPD at NYU.

Nice non-violent protests. I imagine that burning things down comes next.

And bombs. Then these kids can cry how we don't even let them blow up a building anymore, it's so unfair.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I’m sympathetic to the protestor’s cause but can’t stop thinking that they are such idiots in how they are trying to get their point across. Wouldn’t it make more sense to protest the political leaders making the decisions to fund the war instead of the universities that are subsidizing their education? Don’t they know that their tuition dollars don’t even cover the cost of their own education- even for those who are paying full tuition and I’m guessing that many of the o student protestors are gettin merit aid. Dont’ they have any respect for their fellow students who want to access the education that they are paying for? Do any of them support sending support to Ukraine? They just come off as idiots who could use more time in the classroom honing their critical thinking skills.

Did you feel the same about protestors demanding university endowments divest from South Africa? Those protests went over relatively well in the 70s and 80s. Maybe the protestors are realizing that Israel and it's have more power over US institutions and are doubling down.

The protests against South Africa didn't start after a terrorist attack, the protestors did not claim to sympathize with a terrorist group, and the protestors did not attack white people in the US because of what was going on in SA.