Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"?

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

True, we do agree on that - but other than the passage of time, I mean those civilizations are no longer around, there's really no difference

DP: Do you think people studying for a PhD in Theology at Princeton are studying the same thing as people studying for a PhD in Folklore and Mythology at Harvard?

I'll bet there is considerable overlap yes; and I'll bet the students in bth programs are conversant with each others' field of study.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

PP again. Coming back to the point that it's how you treat people's belief or non-belief. I don't care what you think. I care how you behave.

If you're a non-believer who comes on DCUM anonymously to mock belief and religion for an online audience of people of faith, then I think you're a cr@ppy person. Same goes if you're a believer who mocks atheists.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

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Anonymous wrote:Is saying “God is a myth” different than “god is mythical”? I would think the first is offensive, the second not so much.

Is this a joke?

Not a joke at all. I think they have different meanings. Something can be “mythical”, but still “true”, no?

"Myth" is a noun and "mythical" is an adjective.

Again we enter the realm of some words having multiple meanings. If you say God is mythical, you might be referring in admiration to his "mythical powers" by which you mean his "great powers." But we all know you don't mean that.

But many others would be very right in thinking that what you actually mean is that God is a myth.

Again, don't be deliberately offensive. Context, tone, and good faith matter.

It's perfectly good faith to point out that if the Greek gods are myths, and the Babyloni and and Egyptian gods are myths, then the God in the Bible is equally mythical. I mean, really what's the difference?

Many people still believe in the god of the Bible.

True, we do agree on that - but other than the passage of time, I mean those civilizations are no longer around, there's really no difference

DP: Do you think people studying for a PhD in Theology at Princeton are studying the same thing as people studying for a PhD in Folklore and Mythology at Harvard?

DP. What are the differences?

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

You haven't addressed the main point and clearly you don't want to understand. Instead you come back with a complete load of bs.

You think you're entitled to barge onto any religion thread to trash the beliefs of the people there. Then, ironically, you whine that (a) you had to read that Jesus is lord, the horror, and (b) your hate wasn't welcomed there.

Yes, I've opened the "Thank God I'm an Atheist Thread." It's a cesspool of misinformation and hate, but I haven't commented because I'm not the audience and, frankly nobody on that thread would be convinced by religious arguments (a lesson you could learn, because nobody is convinced by your behavior).

You're lying about the comments from believers on the "Thank God I'm an Atheist" thread. They were correcting factual errors, not insulting you.

As I already pointed out (do I need to put it in caps?), nobody of faith entered the "Thank God I'm an Atheist" thread to tell you you're going to hell or that you're leading a sad, empty life.

But that's exactly what you think you should be able to do on religious threads.

WE'RE DEMANDING THE SAME RESPECT WE EXTEND TO ATHEISTS. NOBODY IS DEMANDING "SPECIAL CONSIDERATION," THAT'S A BALD-FACED LIE. And I already apologized for the caps on the other post, but they're necessary because you're so determined to miss the point that I was hoping caps would help.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

You haven't addressed the main point and clearly you don't want to understand. Instead you come back with a complete load of bs.

You think you're entitled to barge onto any religion thread to trash the beliefs of the people there. Then, ironically, you whine that (a) you had to read that Jesus is lord, the horror, and (b) your hate wasn't welcomed there.

Yes, I've opened the "Thank God I'm an Atheist Thread." It's a cesspool of misinformation and hate, but I haven't commented because I'm not the audience and, frankly nobody on that thread would be convinced by religious arguments (a lesson you could learn, because nobody is convinced by your behavior).

You're lying about the comments from believers on the "Thank God I'm an Atheist" thread. They were correcting factual errors, not insulting you.

As I already pointed out (do I need to put it in caps?), nobody of faith entered the "Thank God I'm an Atheist" thread to tell you you're going to hell or that you're leading a sad, empty life.

But that's exactly what you think you should be able to do on religious threads.

WE'RE DEMANDING THE SAME RESPECT WE EXTEND TO ATHEISTS. NOBODY IS DEMANDING "SPECIAL CONSIDERATION," THAT'S A BALD-FACED LIE. And I already apologized for the caps on the other post, but they're necessary because you're so determined to miss the point that I was hoping caps would help.

No, your position is crystal clear:

- Saying "Jesus Is Lord" is fine even though there are non-believers here.
- Saying "Jesus Is Not Lord" is offensive because there are Christians here.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

You haven't addressed the main point and clearly you don't want to understand. Instead you come back with a complete load of bs.

You think you're entitled to barge onto any religion thread to trash the beliefs of the people there. Then, ironically, you whine that (a) you had to read that Jesus is lord, the horror, and (b) your hate wasn't welcomed there.

Yes, I've opened the "Thank God I'm an Atheist Thread." It's a cesspool of misinformation and hate, but I haven't commented because I'm not the audience and, frankly nobody on that thread would be convinced by religious arguments (a lesson you could learn, because nobody is convinced by your behavior).

You're lying about the comments from believers on the "Thank God I'm an Atheist" thread. They were correcting factual errors, not insulting you.

As I already pointed out (do I need to put it in caps?), nobody of faith entered the "Thank God I'm an Atheist" thread to tell you you're going to hell or that you're leading a sad, empty life.

But that's exactly what you think you should be able to do on religious threads.

WE'RE DEMANDING THE SAME RESPECT WE EXTEND TO ATHEISTS. NOBODY IS DEMANDING "SPECIAL CONSIDERATION," THAT'S A BALD-FACED LIE. And I already apologized for the caps on the other post, but they're necessary because you're so determined to miss the point that I was hoping caps would help.

No, your position is crystal clear:

- Saying "Jesus Is Lord" is fine even though there are non-believers here.
- Saying "Jesus Is Not Lord" is offensive because there are Christians here.

I hate to bring up reading comprehension. But nobody says "Jesus is Lord" on atheist threads. Yet you want to say "religion is a myth" on threads about faith.

Why, oh why, can't you see the clear difference?

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

PP: I want to be able to barge onto threads about religion without having to see any posts about Jesus being Lord, and I also want to be able to trash religion on religious threads.

Also PP: If anybody barges onto a thread about atheism to say we're going to hell, that's totally disrespectful.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

PP: I want to be able to barge onto threads about religion without having to see any posts about Jesus being Lord, and I also want to be able to trash religion on religious threads.

Also PP: If anybody barges onto a thread about atheism to say we're going to hell, that's totally disrespectful.

Also PP: Asking for respect on a religion thread is asking for "special treatment" but asking for respect on an atheism thread is my right.

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Anonymous wrote:I have asked these questions every time someone claims a non-believer is "insulting" and no one replies. Another PP suggested its own thread so here it is:

1. Is it "insulting" to refer to god as "mythical"? Why?

2. Is it insulting to compare a god to another god or mythical being knowing people who believe in one don't believe in the other? Why?

3. Those of you who believe in one god: do you think the other gods are "mythical"? Why?

Thoughtful replies only, please. If you don't like the questions you don't have to respond at all. However all views are welcome as long as they are thoughtful and not trolls or insults.

1. It is not insulting to me, but it reveal your level of knowledge.
2. Not insulting, as Jesus himself told us to seek and we will find him. Seeking the God may take a person various passes, including learning and comparing different religions.
3. No, I never thought about them as mythical. More like you will not find the evidence that they are real God. But the definition of mythical will appropriate if you chose to use it

So you don't use the word mythical, then, even in an academic style re: Zeus and Odin? I give you credit for consistency.

DP. To me it's all about respecting the person you're talking to. So if there are any followers of Zeus and Odin on this board, I won't use the term "mythical." But it seems unlikely any would be here.

You know there are many non-believers on this board, right? So you don't respect them, or their beliefs?

PP here. What the what? I didn't say anything about non-believers, maybe because that's not the thread topic. Of course I respect non-belief.

But non-believers think your god is mythical, and you do not allow them to express their thoughts here without personal criticism. That is the main point.

You don't understand saying "Jesus Is Lord" and "Jesus Is A Myth" are expressly opposite positions on the same topic.

You demand respect for one but shout down the other by saying it is "disrespectful" to say so here. (Please note this is different than shouting it in a church vestibule. We are talking about a discussion forum designed for that purpose.)

I would like you to rethink your position and extend respect for all positions, including ones you disagree with.

Nope. This is a distorted analogy, an analogy fail.

NOBODY IS MAKING YOU ENTER THREADS WHERE PEOPLE ARE SAYING “JESUS IS LORD” OR THAT THEY’RE TRYING TO RETURN TO GOD. It’s YOUR CHOICE to barge in and disrespectfully tell everybody you think religion is myth/evil/everything else in your playlist.

ALSO, NOBODY IS SHUTTING DOWN YOUR OPINION. The “Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread is humming along. Nobody has shut it down. In fact, nobody has said barged in to say you’re going to hell or you must have an empty life, either, perhaps proving the point that DCUM’s believers are more respectful than it’s atheists.

It’s very simple. If you don’t want to hear about Jesus being Lord, DON’T ENTER THOSE THREADS. Douchebaggery is when you show up on those threads to trash the particular belief.

Why do you have such a hard time understanding simple respect? Sorry for the caps, but you’re really struggling with this.

Thank you for this post, because it just proves my point perfectly. Calling people names, typing in caps, demanding that your threads have no dissent, falsely insinuating no believers posted in the "Thank God I’m an Atheist” thread. (They did. Without being called names for their beliefs).

You are the disrespectful one. You have a double standard. You are a hypocrite. You demand special consideration for your beliefs but do not extend them to others. You don't believe that other faiths deserve that respect "unless they are here" but don't think non-believers - who are here - deserve any of that same respect.

This thread has illustrated that. Undeniably.

And for the record, I think your religion is false and is a myth like any other. That position is not inherently disrespectful.

PP: I want to be able to barge onto threads about religion without having to see any posts about Jesus being Lord, and I also want to be able to trash religion on religious threads.

Also PP: If anybody barges onto a thread about atheism to say we're going to hell, that's totally disrespectful.

Also PP: Asking for respect on a religion thread is asking for "special treatment" but asking for respect on an atheism thread is my right.

Three rapid posts in a row shows you are a little worked up. Not my intention. Sorry about that. But all of them reiterate the point that you want special treatment for your position, with its own threads that no one is allowed to disagree with therein. I don't think any poster gets to decide what can't go in a thread except the moderator, so unless you are him, that will not be a successful argument.

My position is post whatever you want, in whatever thread, as long as it is relevant to the topic. And yes, that includes your faith, and why you have it! I think those are important topics. But don't call people names just because they disagree with you. That's hypocrisy. Hopefully we can all agree hypocrisy is bad.

Sorry if I upset you, and I hope you have a good evening.