"No Labels" Party

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Anonymous wrote:People thought we’d never have an AA president, and yet we did. No one thought abortion would be legal, and yet it was. No one thought RvW would be overturned, yet it was.

Non of those things have anything to do with third party candidates winning presidential elections. Please explain exactly what states are going to provide the 270 electoral votes for this superstar?

Just sayin’ that one should never say never.

You can shovel whatever pile of bull crap you want to shovel but the the voters don't like being treated like fools. Voters in the special election in August in Ohio reported that in addition to wanting to protect reproductive freedoms, they resented being fed a pile of crap from the GOP that the election was really about other issues. So they voted the GOP down by a significant margin.

OK?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People thought we’d never have an AA president, and yet we did. No one thought abortion would be legal, and yet it was. No one thought RvW would be overturned, yet it was.

Non of those things have anything to do with third party candidates winning presidential elections. Please explain exactly what states are going to provide the 270 electoral votes for this superstar?

Just sayin’ that one should never say never.

1992:
Democratic […]William J. Clinton Albert Gore, Jr. 370 68.8% 44,909,326 43.0%
Republican George Bush Dan Quayle 168 31.2% 39,103,882 37.4%
Independent H. Ross Perot James Stockdale 0 0% 19,741,657 18.9%

2000:

Republican […]George W. Bush Richard Cheney 271 50.4% 50,455,156 47.9%
Democratic Albert Gore, Jr. Joseph Lieberman 266 49.4% 50,992,335 48.4%
Green Ralph Nader Winona LaDuke 0 0% 2,882,738 2.7%

2016*:

Democratic Hillary Clinton Tim Kaine 232 43.1% 65,788,564 48.2%
Republican election party winner Donald Trump Mike Pence 306 56.9% 62,955,340 46.2%
Libertarian Gary Johnson William Weld 0 -- 4,487,570 3.3%
Green Jill Stein Ajamu Baraka 0 -- 1,448,603 1.1%

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/1992

*this doesn’t capture the wreckage wrought by Bernie Sanders. I found one state that happened to have results near the top: over 9,000 people really looked at Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and believed the lie that they were the same thing and would yield the same results and wrote in Bernie Sanders. It did not change the fact that Clinton won that state, but across the country how many states did people making similar decisions, or even abstaining from voting altogether, change the outcome? She won the popular vote. https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/30/write-in-presidential-votes-in-ri-clear-choice-was-bernie-sanders/22938002007/

[Anonymous]

The partisanship cannot be taken out of politics, no matter how many stupid no labels this, third way that movements arise. Is it basically just a group of people who are too embarrassed to admit they are Republicans? Not sure.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:People thought we’d never have an AA president, and yet we did. No one thought abortion would be legal, and yet it was. No one thought RvW would be overturned, yet it was.

Non of those things have anything to do with third party candidates winning presidential elections. Please explain exactly what states are going to provide the 270 electoral votes for this superstar?

Just sayin’ that one should never say never.

1992:
Democratic […]William J. Clinton Albert Gore, Jr. 370 68.8% 44,909,326 43.0%
Republican George Bush Dan Quayle 168 31.2% 39,103,882 37.4%
Independent H. Ross Perot James Stockdale 0 0% 19,741,657 18.9%

2000:

Republican […]George W. Bush Richard Cheney 271 50.4% 50,455,156 47.9%
Democratic Albert Gore, Jr. Joseph Lieberman 266 49.4% 50,992,335 48.4%
Green Ralph Nader Winona LaDuke 0 0% 2,882,738 2.7%

2016*:

Democratic Hillary Clinton Tim Kaine 232 43.1% 65,788,564 48.2%
Republican election party winner Donald Trump Mike Pence 306 56.9% 62,955,340 46.2%
Libertarian Gary Johnson William Weld 0 -- 4,487,570 3.3%
Green Jill Stein Ajamu Baraka 0 -- 1,448,603 1.1%

https://www.presidency.ucsb.edu/statistics/elections/1992

*this doesn’t capture the wreckage wrought by Bernie Sanders. I found one state that happened to have results near the top: over 9,000 people really looked at Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump and believed the lie that they were the same thing and would yield the same results and wrote in Bernie Sanders. It did not change the fact that Clinton won that state, but across the country how many states did people making similar decisions, or even abstaining from voting altogether, change the outcome? She won the popular vote. https://www.providencejournal.com/story/news/politics/2016/12/30/write-in-presidential-votes-in-ri-clear-choice-was-bernie-sanders/22938002007/

So? What does any of that prove? None of that matters. The possibility always exists for a successful third party. Whether it is 2024 or sometime later.

[Anonymous]

Success for this third party is having the Republican win. Doubt 2024 will be the year for that. Maybe next time

[Anonymous]

Dear centrist republicans,
Fix your party. We didn’t break it, so we ain’t buying it.
Sincerely,
Everybody else

[Anonymous]

Sorry, cheering more for a liberal, Andrew Yang, Forward Party to grow over the next few cycles and maybe have a good candidate at federal level in 2028/32 but support third parties in general. So I hope that a No Labels party gains some traction and shake things up.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Sorry, cheering more for a liberal, Andrew Yang, Forward Party to grow over the next few cycles and maybe have a good candidate at federal level in 2028/32 but support third parties in general. So I hope that a No Labels party gains some traction and shake things up.

You are sorry.

[Anonymous]

How do 3rd parties shake things up other than helping with the republican or the democrat get elected? Please give an example of any other outcome?

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Anonymous wrote:Who could win on the No Labels line? It seems like they have an excellent chance if the opponents are Biden and Trump.

That's what the naysayers that claim a 3rd party has no chance fail to understand. We are in unprecedented times. In none of our lifetimes have we ever had a situation where two presidents, an incumbent and an ex-president with historically low approval ratings, are likely to be nominated by their parties for a rematch of the most recent election. It's a mind-boggling predicament. How can we not strive to come up with something better considering how unpopular these two are?

Wrong no labels. Third parties never win. The goal of this party is not to win. The proper label is "no Chance".

Yea, we should all just vote for Trump or Biden until the cows come home...lol

Voting no labels is voting trump. Don't be stupid.

Are you sure? Maybe it is voting Biden.

Oh definitely. The billionaire.rught wingers behind it absolutely want to see Biden reelected. Again don't be stupid.

Trump does not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected without some hail Mary like no labels trying to peel off some Biden voters in the swing states.

Vote for whoever you want. That is your right. But don't misunderstand why no labels is trying to get your vote. And it is not so they can win. It is to support trump and deny Biden because they cannot just win an election by actually attracting voters to the Republicans.

So sure. And yet, you're wrong. I could try to explain but you wouldn't listen. You already think you know everything.

As someone who wants nothing more than for Trump to never serve in a public service role again, I feel obligated to help you with this explanation. Biden became the overwhelming favorite to win the Democratic nomination in 2020 soon after officially announcing his intent to run in April of 2019. The polling data average for a head to head match-up with Trump had Biden leading by double digit margins for most of 2019 and some of 2020. By election day, that polling average margin of victory for Biden was 8%. The 2020 election rendered a margin of 4.5% with Biden being the victor. The election results indicated Trump performing more favorably on election day relative to the polling data. The same applied for Trump in the 2016 election. Currently, the polling data for a Trump vs Biden rematch in 2024 is much closer with unfortunately Trump being ahead by a slight margin in most polls. These current polling figures and the 2019/2020 polling figures are derived from the same mainstream polling sources. We were all quick to jump on board with Biden in 2019 due to the perception that he had the best chance of beating Trump in 2020 and consequently we were rewarded with a victory over Trump. Applying that same data supported logic to the 2024 election, anyone who truly doesn't want to see Trump in office again needs to come to grips with the fact that Biden is not the overwhelming favorite to beat Trump that he was in 2019/2020. He is actually an underdog at this point if you factor in the current polling data along with Trump's history of performing better on election day relative to the polling data. Take this info as you may. In my opinion, after considering the factual data mentioned above, I think it would be foolish for those of us that don't want Trump back in office to not be considering alternative candidates; whether they be Democratic candidates or 3rd party candidates. It's a messy situation and I understand the all-in Biden thought process but it's looking less and less likely that Biden is the sure thing to beat Trump. It is what it is.

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Anonymous wrote:Who could win on the No Labels line? It seems like they have an excellent chance if the opponents are Biden and Trump.

That's what the naysayers that claim a 3rd party has no chance fail to understand. We are in unprecedented times. In none of our lifetimes have we ever had a situation where two presidents, an incumbent and an ex-president with historically low approval ratings, are likely to be nominated by their parties for a rematch of the most recent election. It's a mind-boggling predicament. How can we not strive to come up with something better considering how unpopular these two are?

Wrong no labels. Third parties never win. The goal of this party is not to win. The proper label is "no Chance".

Yea, we should all just vote for Trump or Biden until the cows come home...lol

Voting no labels is voting trump. Don't be stupid.

Are you sure? Maybe it is voting Biden.

Oh definitely. The billionaire.rught wingers behind it absolutely want to see Biden reelected. Again don't be stupid.

Trump does not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected without some hail Mary like no labels trying to peel off some Biden voters in the swing states.

Vote for whoever you want. That is your right. But don't misunderstand why no labels is trying to get your vote. And it is not so they can win. It is to support trump and deny Biden because they cannot just win an election by actually attracting voters to the Republicans.

So sure. And yet, you're wrong. I could try to explain but you wouldn't listen. You already think you know everything.

As someone who wants nothing more than for Trump to never serve in a public service role again, I feel obligated to help you with this explanation. Biden became the overwhelming favorite to win the Democratic nomination in 2020 soon after officially announcing his intent to run in April of 2019. The polling data average for a head to head match-up with Trump had Biden leading by double digit margins for most of 2019 and some of 2020. By election day, that polling average margin of victory for Biden was 8%. The 2020 election rendered a margin of 4.5% with Biden being the victor. The election results indicated Trump performing more favorably on election day relative to the polling data. The same applied for Trump in the 2016 election. Currently, the polling data for a Trump vs Biden rematch in 2024 is much closer with unfortunately Trump being ahead by a slight margin in most polls. These current polling figures and the 2019/2020 polling figures are derived from the same mainstream polling sources. We were all quick to jump on board with Biden in 2019 due to the perception that he had the best chance of beating Trump in 2020 and consequently we were rewarded with a victory over Trump. Applying that same data supported logic to the 2024 election, anyone who truly doesn't want to see Trump in office again needs to come to grips with the fact that Biden is not the overwhelming favorite to beat Trump that he was in 2019/2020. He is actually an underdog at this point if you factor in the current polling data along with Trump's history of performing better on election day relative to the polling data. Take this info as you may. In my opinion, after considering the factual data mentioned above, I think it would be foolish for those of us that don't want Trump back in office to not be considering alternative candidates; whether they be Democratic candidates no or 3rd party candidates. It's a messy situation and I understand the all-in Biden thought process but it's looking less and less likely that Biden is the sure thing to beat Trump. It is what it is.

All that matters is the voters in a few swing states.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Success for this third party is having the Republican win. Doubt 2024 will be the year for that. Maybe next time

Yeah, have you noticed that the only names floated for “No Labels” are Democrats? They are clearly just a Republican front group whose only objective is to split the Democratic vote enough to ensure Trump wins the election. I honestly think they will try to recruit RFK Jr after he loses the Dem nomination to Biden.

[Anonymous]

It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It isn’t a third party if they have only a candidate for President and no other candidates or state organizations. That’s just a spoiler campaign. There is no third party movement at all.

The one or two GOP/No Labels boosters were hoping you didn’t notice that.

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Trump will not be a candidate.