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[quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous][quote=Anonymous]Who could win on the No Labels line? It seems like they have an excellent chance if the opponents are Biden and Trump. [/quote] That's what the naysayers that claim a 3rd party has no chance fail to understand. We are in unprecedented times. In none of our lifetimes have we ever had a situation where two presidents, an incumbent and an ex-president with historically low approval ratings, are likely to be nominated by their parties for a rematch of the most recent election. It's a mind-boggling predicament. How can we not strive to come up with something better considering how unpopular these two are?[/quote] Wrong no labels. Third parties never win. The goal of this party is not to win. The proper label is "no Chance". [/quote] Yea, we should all just vote for Trump or Biden until the cows come home...lol[/quote] Voting no labels is voting trump. Don't be stupid.[/quote] Are you sure? Maybe it is voting Biden.[/quote] Oh definitely. The billionaire.rught wingers behind it absolutely want to see Biden reelected. Again don't be stupid. Trump does not have a snowball's chance in hell of being reelected without some hail Mary like no labels trying to peel off some Biden voters in the swing states. Vote for whoever you want. That is your right. But don't misunderstand why no labels is trying to get your vote. And it is not so they can win. It is to support trump and deny Biden because they cannot just win an election by actually attracting voters to the Republicans.[/quote] So sure. And yet, you're wrong. I could try to explain but you wouldn't listen. You already think you know everything. [/quote] As someone who wants nothing more than for Trump to never serve in a public service role again, I feel obligated to help you with this explanation. Biden became the overwhelming favorite to win the Democratic nomination in 2020 soon after officially announcing his intent to run in April of 2019. The polling data average for a head to head match-up with Trump had Biden leading by double digit margins for most of 2019 and some of 2020. By election day, that polling average margin of victory for Biden was 8%. The 2020 election rendered a margin of 4.5% with Biden being the victor. The election results indicated Trump performing more favorably on election day relative to the polling data. The same applied for Trump in the 2016 election. Currently, the polling data for a Trump vs Biden rematch in 2024 is much closer with unfortunately Trump being ahead by a slight margin in most polls. These current polling figures and the 2019/2020 polling figures are derived from the same mainstream polling sources. We were all quick to jump on board with Biden in 2019 due to the perception that he had the best chance of beating Trump in 2020 and consequently we were rewarded with a victory over Trump. Applying that same data supported logic to the 2024 election, anyone who truly doesn't want to see Trump in office again needs to come to grips with the fact that Biden is not the overwhelming favorite to beat Trump that he was in 2019/2020. He is actually an underdog at this point if you factor in the current polling data along with Trump's history of performing better on election day relative to the polling data. Take this info as you may. In my opinion, after considering the factual data mentioned above, I think it would be foolish for those of us that don't want Trump back in office to not be considering alternative candidates; whether they be Democratic candidates or 3rd party candidates. It's a messy situation and I understand the all-in Biden thought process but it's looking less and less likely that Biden is the sure thing to beat Trump. It is what it is.[/quote]
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