Robert F Kennedy running for president as a Dem

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.


Be skeptical all you want. In 2024, the choice will be between a party that borders on Christo-Fascism and the Democrats, who so far, have stabilized the country post-COVID and strengthened our international alliances and the global economy.

It shouldn't be a hard choice, but the American public seems to be falling for a lot of BS.


Between lockdowns, mask/vaccine mandates and outright censorship, the Democratic party really has no room to talk in regards to fascism.


Who was president when the lockdowns happened?

Hint: It wasn't Biden. Remember, COVID happened in 2020. The lockdowns, such as they were, were in 2020. Biden took office in 2021 and had vaccines out to the public by April 2021.

In terms of censorship, the Federal government has not engaged in any censorship. If you have an issue with private entities enforcing their rules of standards, that is a you problem.
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Anonymous wrote:What has RFK done other than live off of his name?



He provided indisputable evidence exposing fraud fauci, a whole book of evidence.


And he suggested Covid might be ethnically targeted to spare Jews. Tinfoil Aisle 8!!


https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-targeted-to-spare-jews/


More to the point, he said "covid was genetically created to target Caucasians and Black people. It was also designed to spare Ashkenazi Jews and the Chinese." The people at the table he was talking with first looked horrified and then amused.


Ashenazi Jews and Chinese died from COVID. It is hard to even understand the underpinning of the statement based on numbers, much less the supposition.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.


Be skeptical all you want. In 2024, the choice will be between a party that borders on Christo-Fascism and the Democrats, who so far, have stabilized the country post-COVID and strengthened our international alliances and the global economy.

It shouldn't be a hard choice, but the American public seems to be falling for a lot of BS.


Between lockdowns, mask/vaccine mandates and outright censorship, the Democratic party really has no room to talk in regards to fascism.


Like this?

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Anonymous wrote:What has RFK done other than live off of his name?



He provided indisputable evidence exposing fraud fauci, a whole book of evidence.


And he suggested Covid might be ethnically targeted to spare Jews. Tinfoil Aisle 8!!


https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-targeted-to-spare-jews/


More to the point, he said "covid was genetically created to target Caucasians and Black people. It was also designed to spare Ashkenazi Jews and the Chinese." The people at the table he was talking with first looked horrified and then amused.


OMG
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Anonymous wrote:What has RFK done other than live off of his name?



He provided indisputable evidence exposing fraud fauci, a whole book of evidence.


And he suggested Covid might be ethnically targeted to spare Jews. Tinfoil Aisle 8!!


https://nypost.com/2023/07/15/rfk-jr-says-covid-was-ethnically-targeted-to-spare-jews/


More to the point, he said "covid was genetically created to target Caucasians and Black people. It was also designed to spare Ashkenazi Jews and the Chinese." The people at the table he was talking with first looked horrified and then amused.


Ashenazi Jews and Chinese died from COVID. It is hard to even understand the underpinning of the statement based on numbers, much less the supposition.

The gargantuan antisemitism and racism behind that belief are probably why RFK Jr was selected by the GOP as their next attempt at spoiling the Democratic primary.

Any wavering people getting the point yet? He’s a GOP plant.
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The venn diagram of anti-vaxxers and racism is a concentric circle.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.

RFK Jr isn’t a viable Democratic candidate though. He’s a GOP spoiler candidate.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.

In the short term, you're right, we appear to be stuck with Trump vs. Biden in our next election. I disagree with the notion that the American public has no choice but to accept the fact that our two parties are in complete control over who leads and how they lead our country going forward. This is sickening concept. I'm going to use Larry Hogan in an example of how this concept is continuing the decline of leadership in our federal government. I'm not Republican but I have to acknowledge that Hogan had a by most accounts successful term as a moderate Republican governor in a large majority democratic state. It's safe to assume that he was seriously considering a run for president in 2024 until he came to realize his candidacy would be only successful enough to further guarantee a Trump victory in a more crowded Republican primary field. I very likely would not have voted for Hogan if he were nominated for president but I'm certain we would all have benefited from the much stronger field of presidential candidates that would have come to fruition had he, or any other normal moderate Republican with a history of successful executive experience were to be nominated as opposed to Trump. That would force the DNC's hand to consider jumping off the Biden bandwagon in order to come up with a candidate that would have a better chance of beating a stronger, more moderate Republican that is still in the prime of their political career. This isn't a knock on Biden; it's simply an undeniable truth. Otherwise, there is no reason for the DNC to jump ship from an incumbent president that has already beaten the same awful candidate 4 years ago. The strength of one party and candidate contributes to a stronger other party and candidate and we as a country will benefit greatly when both parties are stronger and functioning at a higher level. The Hogan situation is sad for him as he is entering the twilight of his political prime and likely won't be a viable candidate come 2028. Hogan is just one of numerous strong Republican and Democratic leaders that will remain on the sidelines in 2024 for the same reasons. I can't fault people for voting for Biden in 2024 in a match-up against Trump but the forced method of voting for the lesser of two evils needs to stop sooner than later.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.

In the short term, you're right, we appear to be stuck with Trump vs. Biden in our next election. I disagree with the notion that the American public has no choice but to accept the fact that our two parties are in complete control over who leads and how they lead our country going forward. This is sickening concept. I'm going to use Larry Hogan in an example of how this concept is continuing the decline of leadership in our federal government. I'm not Republican but I have to acknowledge that Hogan had a by most accounts successful term as a moderate Republican governor in a large majority democratic state. It's safe to assume that he was seriously considering a run for president in 2024 until he came to realize his candidacy would be only successful enough to further guarantee a Trump victory in a more crowded Republican primary field. I very likely would not have voted for Hogan if he were nominated for president but I'm certain we would all have benefited from the much stronger field of presidential candidates that would have come to fruition had he, or any other normal moderate Republican with a history of successful executive experience were to be nominated as opposed to Trump. That would force the DNC's hand to consider jumping off the Biden bandwagon in order to come up with a candidate that would have a better chance of beating a stronger, more moderate Republican that is still in the prime of their political career. This isn't a knock on Biden; it's simply an undeniable truth. Otherwise, there is no reason for the DNC to jump ship from an incumbent president that has already beaten the same awful candidate 4 years ago. The strength of one party and candidate contributes to a stronger other party and candidate and we as a country will benefit greatly when both parties are stronger and functioning at a higher level. The Hogan situation is sad for him as he is entering the twilight of his political prime and likely won't be a viable candidate come 2028. Hogan is just one of numerous strong Republican and Democratic leaders that will remain on the sidelines in 2024 for the same reasons. I can't fault people for voting for Biden in 2024 in a match-up against Trump but the forced method of voting for the lesser of two evils needs to stop sooner than later.


I have voted Democrat my entire voting life, I agree with everything you said and would even go so far as to say I would have voted for Hogan over Biden or Trump in 2024. I crave an intelligent, competent, under 70 candidate with some integrity.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.

In the short term, you're right, we appear to be stuck with Trump vs. Biden in our next election. I disagree with the notion that the American public has no choice but to accept the fact that our two parties are in complete control over who leads and how they lead our country going forward. This is sickening concept. I'm going to use Larry Hogan in an example of how this concept is continuing the decline of leadership in our federal government. I'm not Republican but I have to acknowledge that Hogan had a by most accounts successful term as a moderate Republican governor in a large majority democratic state. It's safe to assume that he was seriously considering a run for president in 2024 until he came to realize his candidacy would be only successful enough to further guarantee a Trump victory in a more crowded Republican primary field. I very likely would not have voted for Hogan if he were nominated for president but I'm certain we would all have benefited from the much stronger field of presidential candidates that would have come to fruition had he, or any other normal moderate Republican with a history of successful executive experience were to be nominated as opposed to Trump. That would force the DNC's hand to consider jumping off the Biden bandwagon in order to come up with a candidate that would have a better chance of beating a stronger, more moderate Republican that is still in the prime of their political career. This isn't a knock on Biden; it's simply an undeniable truth. Otherwise, there is no reason for the DNC to jump ship from an incumbent president that has already beaten the same awful candidate 4 years ago. The strength of one party and candidate contributes to a stronger other party and candidate and we as a country will benefit greatly when both parties are stronger and functioning at a higher level. The Hogan situation is sad for him as he is entering the twilight of his political prime and likely won't be a viable candidate come 2028. Hogan is just one of numerous strong Republican and Democratic leaders that will remain on the sidelines in 2024 for the same reasons. I can't fault people for voting for Biden in 2024 in a match-up against Trump but the forced method of voting for the lesser of two evils needs to stop sooner than later.


It's almost always that way. Country seems to carry on. Biden is serving, will likely serve a second term and on we go.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.


When was the last time an incumbent president was successfully challenged?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.

In the short term, you're right, we appear to be stuck with Trump vs. Biden in our next election. I disagree with the notion that the American public has no choice but to accept the fact that our two parties are in complete control over who leads and how they lead our country going forward. This is sickening concept. I'm going to use Larry Hogan in an example of how this concept is continuing the decline of leadership in our federal government. I'm not Republican but I have to acknowledge that Hogan had a by most accounts successful term as a moderate Republican governor in a large majority democratic state. It's safe to assume that he was seriously considering a run for president in 2024 until he came to realize his candidacy would be only successful enough to further guarantee a Trump victory in a more crowded Republican primary field. I very likely would not have voted for Hogan if he were nominated for president but I'm certain we would all have benefited from the much stronger field of presidential candidates that would have come to fruition had he, or any other normal moderate Republican with a history of successful executive experience were to be nominated as opposed to Trump. That would force the DNC's hand to consider jumping off the Biden bandwagon in order to come up with a candidate that would have a better chance of beating a stronger, more moderate Republican that is still in the prime of their political career. This isn't a knock on Biden; it's simply an undeniable truth. Otherwise, there is no reason for the DNC to jump ship from an incumbent president that has already beaten the same awful candidate 4 years ago. The strength of one party and candidate contributes to a stronger other party and candidate and we as a country will benefit greatly when both parties are stronger and functioning at a higher level. The Hogan situation is sad for him as he is entering the twilight of his political prime and likely won't be a viable candidate come 2028. Hogan is just one of numerous strong Republican and Democratic leaders that will remain on the sidelines in 2024 for the same reasons. I can't fault people for voting for Biden in 2024 in a match-up against Trump but the forced method of voting for the lesser of two evils needs to stop sooner than later.


Hogan cost his state at least 6 billion dollars by postponing the purple line, he cut deals that benefited his real estate holding and his Korea/COVID thing was a total sham, but sure, a successful term because he didn't end up charged with anything like Agnew was, I suppose.
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.


When was the last time an incumbent president was successfully challenged?

When was the last time an incumbent president was as demented as Joe Biden?
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with everything he says, but I’d vote for him. He comes across a guy who is willing to debate, argue for his positions in a reasonable way and is t afraid to take one the establishment from either side.

You’re a Republican. If you can’t hold your nose and vote for Trump a third time, you’ll for sure vote for the weirdest garbage.


Responses like this is why I’m not a registered democrat. I’m an independent who voted for Biden last election. And shocker….I could even change my mind before the election depending on how the debates go…oh wait…

But you do you smarty pants.


You're not "independent." You have not principles.


Sure I am. The candidate matters; not the party.

Sadly, the parties keep letting me down with the garbage they’ve put in front of the people to chose the leader of our country. Open up your primaries and maybe we’d see some better options. Sure, the wacko’s in each party will pull candidates to each fringe, but at least people like me (and we are growing) could at least start to make a dent in the process.

Yes, people like you are growing. We should all by now be at the very least skeptical of our two political parties considering their performance in recent decades. They are private entities that can be replaced and the option of replacement should be on the table unless they get their act together in short order. Trump vs Biden 2 in 2024 is not acceptable. We need the best of the best in their prime years leading the most powerful country in the world. What the RNC and DNC currently seem willing to put in front of us in 2024 is not the best of the best in their prime years. It's more than okay to demand better.

Trump vs Biden 2 appears to be inevitable whether you or I like it or not. Trump's grip on a large enough portion of Republican voters to get nominated somehow hasn't waned and the DNC will be sure not to let any potentially viable democratic candidates get in the way of Biden. Both parties have successfully eliminated any chance of a 3rd party presenting a challenge to their control. Pick one, Trump or Biden.


When was the last time an incumbent president was successfully challenged?

When was the last time an incumbent president was as demented as Joe Biden?


Our last President, Donald Trump was far more demented.
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