APS School Board race

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I wish I had the privilege to just pull my kids out of APS and go to private school like Miranda does.

Well that sounds bitter. She has 3 kids and 2 are in APS. And the kid in private apparently coming back to APS. You have no idea why one is in private or how they are managing it. Even one of our current SB members has or had kids in private school. Loads of APS families have one kid in private and others in APS. Most common for parents of SWDS. Focus on how to make APS better for all kids rather than worrying about what other families do.

This is a privilege that most parents do not have. I have a child with severe special needs and I can't afford to pull them out of APS. Even if I could, I'm not sure a private school would take them.

Why didn't she keep her kid in public and focus on making APS better for all kids, as you say? This would include mine.

And for that matter, I also find it interesting that she didn't keep her kids in Drew but decamped for Montessori.

To be fair, it is possible they were in Montessori to begin with, which was co-located at Drew, and then moved to its current location.

She is living in Green Valley, and mentions her mom as a graduate of Kenmore and Wakefield... so...doesn't sound like the family was fleeing high FARMS environments and any point in time.

Montessori was very separate from Drew when they were in the same building. Very different population. Miranda may live in Green Valley but she didn't put her kids in the neighborhood school with the brown kids in Green Valley. I wonder why not.

I don't even like Miranda and you're making something out of nothing. Maybe her kids just excel better in a Montessori program? Just like Erin decided that her kids should learn Spanish instead of going to their neighborhood school. That's what options programs are for.

Maybe, but isn't it interesting that her neighborhood school has high minority and FARMS and she has THREE kids but sent none of them there? 2 went to montessori and one got put in private.

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I wish I had the privilege to just pull my kids out of APS and go to private school like Miranda does.

Well that sounds bitter. She has 3 kids and 2 are in APS. And the kid in private apparently coming back to APS. You have no idea why one is in private or how they are managing it. Even one of our current SB members has or had kids in private school. Loads of APS families have one kid in private and others in APS. Most common for parents of SWDS. Focus on how to make APS better for all kids rather than worrying about what other families do.

This is a privilege that most parents do not have. I have a child with severe special needs and I can't afford to pull them out of APS. Even if I could, I'm not sure a private school would take them.

Why didn't she keep her kid in public and focus on making APS better for all kids, as you say? This would include mine.

And for that matter, I also find it interesting that she didn't keep her kids in Drew but decamped for Montessori.

To be fair, it is possible they were in Montessori to begin with, which was co-located at Drew, and then moved to its current location.

She is living in Green Valley, and mentions her mom as a graduate of Kenmore and Wakefield... so...doesn't sound like the family was fleeing high FARMS environments and any point in time.

Montessori was very separate from Drew when they were in the same building. Very different population. Miranda may live in Green Valley but she didn't put her kids in the neighborhood school with the brown kids in Green Valley. I wonder why not.

I don't even like Miranda and you're making something out of nothing. Maybe her kids just excel better in a Montessori program? Just like Erin decided that her kids should learn Spanish instead of going to their neighborhood school. That's what options programs are for.

Maybe, but isn't it interesting that her neighborhood school has high minority and FARMS and she has THREE kids but sent none of them there? 2 went to montessori and one got put in private.


There are a lot of parents who choose to put their kids in option schools. Look at how competitive ATS and HBW are. These parents are just as welcome to run for the school board.

All of our lame candidates would be disqualified because one doesn't even have kids, and the other two currently have kids outside of their neighborhood schools. Actually, I'm okay with that.

[Anonymous]

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I wish I had the privilege to just pull my kids out of APS and go to private school like Miranda does.

Well that sounds bitter. She has 3 kids and 2 are in APS. And the kid in private apparently coming back to APS. You have no idea why one is in private or how they are managing it. Even one of our current SB members has or had kids in private school. Loads of APS families have one kid in private and others in APS. Most common for parents of SWDS. Focus on how to make APS better for all kids rather than worrying about what other families do.

This is a privilege that most parents do not have. I have a child with severe special needs and I can't afford to pull them out of APS. Even if I could, I'm not sure a private school would take them.

Why didn't she keep her kid in public and focus on making APS better for all kids, as you say? This would include mine.

And for that matter, I also find it interesting that she didn't keep her kids in Drew but decamped for Montessori.

ha! i'm ok with that too.

To be fair, it is possible they were in Montessori to begin with, which was co-located at Drew, and then moved to its current location.

She is living in Green Valley, and mentions her mom as a graduate of Kenmore and Wakefield... so...doesn't sound like the family was fleeing high FARMS environments and any point in time.

Montessori was very separate from Drew when they were in the same building. Very different population. Miranda may live in Green Valley but she didn't put her kids in the neighborhood school with the brown kids in Green Valley. I wonder why not.

I don't even like Miranda and you're making something out of nothing. Maybe her kids just excel better in a Montessori program? Just like Erin decided that her kids should learn Spanish instead of going to their neighborhood school. That's what options programs are for.

Maybe, but isn't it interesting that her neighborhood school has high minority and FARMS and she has THREE kids but sent none of them there? 2 went to montessori and one got put in private.

There are a lot of parents who choose to put their kids in option schools. Look at how competitive ATS and HBW are. These parents are just as welcome to run for the school board.

All of our lame candidates would be disqualified because one doesn't even have kids, and the other two currently have kids outside of their neighborhood schools. Actually, I'm okay with that.

[Anonymous]

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I wish I had the privilege to just pull my kids out of APS and go to private school like Miranda does.

Well that sounds bitter. She has 3 kids and 2 are in APS. And the kid in private apparently coming back to APS. You have no idea why one is in private or how they are managing it. Even one of our current SB members has or had kids in private school. Loads of APS families have one kid in private and others in APS. Most common for parents of SWDS. Focus on how to make APS better for all kids rather than worrying about what other families do.

This is a privilege that most parents do not have. I have a child with severe special needs and I can't afford to pull them out of APS. Even if I could, I'm not sure a private school would take them.

Why didn't she keep her kid in public and focus on making APS better for all kids, as you say? This would include mine.

And for that matter, I also find it interesting that she didn't keep her kids in Drew but decamped for Montessori.

kinda looks like she's working pretty hard to avoid putting her kids in Drew

ha! i'm ok with that too.

To be fair, it is possible they were in Montessori to begin with, which was co-located at Drew, and then moved to its current location.

She is living in Green Valley, and mentions her mom as a graduate of Kenmore and Wakefield... so...doesn't sound like the family was fleeing high FARMS environments and any point in time.

Montessori was very separate from Drew when they were in the same building. Very different population. Miranda may live in Green Valley but she didn't put her kids in the neighborhood school with the brown kids in Green Valley. I wonder why not.

I don't even like Miranda and you're making something out of nothing. Maybe her kids just excel better in a Montessori program? Just like Erin decided that her kids should learn Spanish instead of going to their neighborhood school. That's what options programs are for.

Maybe, but isn't it interesting that her neighborhood school has high minority and FARMS and she has THREE kids but sent none of them there? 2 went to montessori and one got put in private.

There are a lot of parents who choose to put their kids in option schools. Look at how competitive ATS and HBW are. These parents are just as welcome to run for the school board.

All of our lame candidates would be disqualified because one doesn't even have kids, and the other two currently have kids outside of their neighborhood schools. Actually, I'm okay with that.

[Anonymous]

looks like she's working hard to avoid putting any of her kids in drew

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:looks like she's working hard to avoid putting any of her kids in drew

Miranda put her oldest daughter in Drew AFTER Montessori.

The 2 to 3 key trolls on AEM live in the wealthiest, whitest parts of town (whose comments appear very similar to here). They of course don't want brown people as neighbors, let alone as classmates of their kids.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.

If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.

If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

+1 The outside of APS issue for MT is a red herring. She's got 2 kids in APS, and previously had all 3 in APS, and has said all 3 will be back in APS. There are a zillion reasons why a parent legitimately needs private school, especially given how bad APS is with special needs children. There are plenty of way to critique MT on the issues, past advocacy, amd things like that. This is totally invalid. And it invites the response that you don't have a way to address her candicacy on the merits, or based on her positions, just a made up thing that you don't know anything about.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:looks like she's working hard to avoid putting any of her kids in drew

Miranda put her oldest daughter in Drew AFTER Montessori.

The 2 to 3 key trolls on AEM live in the wealthiest, whitest parts of town (whose comments appear very similar to here). They of course don't want brown people as neighbors, let alone as classmates of their kids.

and then Miranda took her daughter OUT of Drew and sent her to private.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.

If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

Well we don't know which it is because Miranda hasn't told us why she sent her daughter to private school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.

If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

Well we don't know which it is because Miranda hasn't told us why she sent her daughter to private school.

I think it’s good to respect a child’s privacy in this case

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.



If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

Well we don't know which it is because Miranda hasn't told us why she sent her daughter to private school.

I think it’s good to respect a child’s privacy in this case

I agree with respecting the child's privacy. Also I'm not a Miranda supporter and barely know her in real life, but the child who is in private school was previously at Drew and Miranda said publicly during the 2020-2021 school year that that child missed Drew a lot and wanted to go back. There are plenty of things to quibble with about her as a candidate but she (unlike the majority of APS parents who I know) is not someone who is afraid to send their child to a majority black and brown, low income school.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.

If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

Well we don't know which it is because Miranda hasn't told us why she sent her daughter to private school.

I think it’s good to respect a child’s privacy in this case

That's fine but then why is everyone speculating about special needs?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.



If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

Well we don't know which it is because Miranda hasn't told us why she sent her daughter to private school.

I think it’s good to respect a child’s privacy in this case

I agree with respecting the child's privacy. Also I'm not a Miranda supporter and barely know her in real life, but the child who is in private school was previously at Drew and Miranda said publicly during the 2020-2021 school year that that child missed Drew a lot and wanted to go back. There are plenty of things to quibble with about her as a candidate but she (unlike the majority of APS parents who I know) is not someone who is afraid to send their child to a majority black and brown, low income school.

Well the majority of APS parents that you now are not relevant cuz they are not running for the school board. Also, how much does it say if she briefly put her kid there, then pulled her out for private, and made sure her younger kids didn't go there?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I'm not going to fault any parent who refuses to sacrifice their kid's wellbeing for the sake of principle. Parents whose kids have LDs know better than anyone how APS fails those kids, and ideally they would put that knowledge to use for the greater good.

Granted, the one SB member I know of whose kids did need supports was Nancy Van Doren, and she was a nightmare who thought Coach Murphy was great. But it doesn't have to be that way.

But we don't know why MT pulled her kid? She didn't say it was because of learning disability issues did she?

Not that she had to, but you are giving that as an excuse so it's relevant.

I'm not a Miranda supporter and APE makes me so mad I could spit, so this isn't about making excuses for her. It's more a general principle: If your kid has an LD and isn't learning &*%$ because APS is so bad at meeting their needs, I'm not going to fault you because you could leave for a system that met their needs.

If you were unhappy because a global pandemic made your life harder, and you demanded that teachers do your bidding, eff you.

Well we don't know which it is because Miranda hasn't told us why she sent her daughter to private school.

I think it’s good to respect a child’s privacy in this case

That's fine but then why is everyone speculating about special needs?

Because some posters were saying that SB members shouldn't have any kids in private school