He has been anti-Trump since 2015, so he can't really switch parties. His end game is to take as much Koch money as possible and make as much from his coal interests as possible and protect his daughter from healthcare related lawsuits as possible. |
I guess Harris was wrong when asked who is the real president Joe Biden or Joe machin lol |
We really do not want Manchin to switch parties. Do you really want McConnell to be the Senate leader for the next three years?
At least we are able to bring legilsation to the floor and get some judges and appointees through. If McConnell were leader again, Biden wouldn't be able to replace Breyeer if he were to retire, or any other SCOTUS slots if they were to open. No thanks. How about we work on the 20 open seats in the Senate in 2022 and make it so Manchin isn't the kingmaker anymore? |
I’m sure he would prefer that too. I don’t think he loves the limelight as much as people say. |
NP. My definition means that when something like the child tax credit is intended to be in place for the foreseeable future, you consider in your equations more than its cost for just one year. |
+1 the accounting gimmicks these imbeciles play are just embarrassingly shameful and it’s fundamentally dishonest to the American people. No wonder Americans view congress so poorly on both sides of the aisles. Clownish buffoons. |
Lots of handwaving and finger pointing, but I did note three of you in the past day or have it right:
This is another self-inflicted wound from an incompetent President and an incompetent Congressional leadership. Professional Democrats and their masters are responsible, it's not a question. You can disagree widely about what should happen next, but it's clear that there are a group of Democrats that should loose their jobs soon. |
The mental gymnastics that PPs are doing to defend the indefensible of Manchin obstructing this bill along with his GOP clown posse is hilarious. Oh it’s the economics - except it’s not. Oh it’s the budget - except it’s not. Oh it’s blah, blah, blah. Talk about cutting off your noses to spite your faces all in pursuit of power, big business interests, and fascism. Red states and their citizens would be the primary beneficiaries of the BBB. There would be some progress to stem climate change, some relief for working and middle class families.
But the GOP clown posse and Manchin (heretofore CP+M) are more interested in half truths and blockades that actually HURT their constituents, giving tax breaks to billionaires, and watching our planet shrivel and die. Oh, and march us toward fascism while they’re at it. I hope this vote - and the fact that Manchin was aided by every single Republican - will not be forgotten. Vote in 2022 like your life depends on it. Because it does. |
Any who should tighten their jobs? |
Really, Mitch? How so? Please do tell how this is about Democratic incompetence and not about naked Republican obstruction. Be specific. I’ll wait. |
The costs are balanced with revenue every year too, silly. |
Think again. The costs are listed for one, two or three years. The revenue is spread out over 10 years. That is not a recipe for successful budgeting. |
+1 Not a single Republican could get on board with this no matter how much it would benefit the people of America. |
100% true. Republicans aren’t in the business of helping Americans, unless they are billionaires. The rest can pull themselves up by their bootstraps. |
This kind of lame 'cleverness' is about as good as this place gets. |