charter school inexperienced teachers

[Anonymous]

Don't want to name school.

Just found out my child's teacher's name and looked the person up. Super young. Graduated from a good college a few years ago (not in education). Just completed a specialized teaching certificate at a small college. NO teaching experience. Should I be worried?

[Anonymous]

No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't want to name school.

Just found out my child's teacher's name and looked the person up. Super young. Graduated from a good college a few years ago (not in education). Just completed a specialized teaching certificate at a small college. NO teaching experience. Should I be worried?

OP, what grade? K and above I think teaching experience (classroom management) is important.

[Anonymous]

Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

[Anonymous]

It's been a couple years, but that describes the teacher my DD had for PK3 to a t, and the teacher was great.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Don't want to name school.

Just found out my child's teacher's name and looked the person up. Super young. Graduated from a good college a few years ago (not in education). Just completed a specialized teaching certificate at a small college. NO teaching experience. Should I be worried?

Be afraid, very afraid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't want to name school.

Just found out my child's teacher's name and looked the person up. Super young. Graduated from a good college a few years ago (not in education). Just completed a specialized teaching certificate at a small college. NO teaching experience. Should I be worried?

OP, what grade? K and above I think teaching experience (classroom management) is important.

All of the good teachers must have completely bypassed their first year.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

That's not totally true. Some charters are successful at keeping experienced teachers, but agreed it is tough for them to match DCPS pay at the higher levels. The funding disparity really comes into play then.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Don't want to name school.

Just found out my child's teacher's name and looked the person up. Super young. Graduated from a good college a few years ago (not in education). Just completed a specialized teaching certificate at a small college. NO teaching experience. Should I be worried?

OP, what grade? K and above I think teaching experience (classroom management) is important.

All of the good teachers must have completely bypassed their first year.

Or they weren't good teachers yet. I teach college. I am 100% better in this my 15th year teaching than in my first. I would say tipping point was several years in. I do think there is a tipping point on the other side too.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

That's not totally true. Some charters are successful at keeping experienced teachers, but agreed it is tough for them to match DCPS pay at the higher levels. The funding disparity really comes into play then.

why is there the student funding disparity? doesn't seem legal. I know we can't match the bonus thing (and we don't want to - don't want teacher salaries tied to test scores in a charter) but base salary should match. Then charter teachers are just giving up tenure and bonuses.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

That's not totally true. Some charters are successful at keeping experienced teachers, but agreed it is tough for them to match DCPS pay at the higher levels. The funding disparity really comes into play then.

why is there the student funding disparity? doesn't seem legal. I know we can't match the bonus thing (and we don't want to - don't want teacher salaries tied to test scores in a charter) but base salary should match. Then charter teachers are just giving up tenure and bonuses.

It's how the funding streams are set up. Each system gets the same "base amount" per student, but charters don't get enough facilities funding, so they sometimes dip into their educational amount to cover facilities costs. It's not a good idea, but sometimes they have to do it. Then layer on the fact that every year DCPS gets additional funding outside of the formula, plus the additional services they get from the District government that a lot of charters don't get. Then you also add the bonus money that DCPS gets for teachers. It adds up to huge disparities. Page 93 covers the differences in operating costs, pages 82 and 83 show the differences in facilities capital spending. DCPS spends about $1,900 more per student per year on facilities capital spending, and $1,400 more per student per year in base educational and operations expenses. This analysis does not include special education funding, which is it's own crazy world.

http://dme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/dme/publication/attachments/4%20SYSTEM%20LEVEL%20FINDINGS.pdf

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

That's not totally true. Some charters are successful at keeping experienced teachers, but agreed it is tough for them to match DCPS pay at the higher levels. The funding disparity really comes into play then.

why is there the student funding disparity? doesn't seem legal. I know we can't match the bonus thing (and we don't want to - don't want teacher salaries tied to test scores in a charter) but base salary should match. Then charter teachers are just giving up tenure and bonuses.

are you new to DC or new to DC schools?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

That's not totally true. Some charters are successful at keeping experienced teachers, but agreed it is tough for them to match DCPS pay at the higher levels. The funding disparity really comes into play then.

why is there the student funding disparity? doesn't seem legal. I know we can't match the bonus thing (and we don't want to - don't want teacher salaries tied to test scores in a charter) but base salary should match. Then charter teachers are just giving up tenure and bonuses.

are you new to DC or new to DC schools?

new to dc schools. moving from private preschool to charter.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's been a couple years, but that describes the teacher my DD had for PK3 to a t, and the teacher was great.

It's pk3. For 36 month olds who are possibly still crapping their pull-ups.

I'd be pissed if my 5th grader landed a teacher with those credentials