charter school inexperienced teachers

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Anonymous wrote:Charters have no choice but to keep hiring new teachers. Across the board they cannot afford to pay for experience. Our HRCS lost a lot of teachers this year, but none of the ones who left had more than 3-4 years of experience to begin with.

That's not totally true. Some charters are successful at keeping experienced teachers, but agreed it is tough for them to match DCPS pay at the higher levels. The funding disparity really comes into play then.

why is there the student funding disparity? doesn't seem legal. I know we can't match the bonus thing (and we don't want to - don't want teacher salaries tied to test scores in a charter) but base salary should match. Then charter teachers are just giving up tenure and bonuses.

are you new to DC or new to DC schools?

new to dc schools. moving from private preschool to charter.

That explains it.

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Our DD PK3 teacher just had two years of teaching experience and she was great. She did have an education background, but did a year at Inspired Teaching under their demonstration program.

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Anonymous wrote:Don't want to name school.

Just found out my child's teacher's name and looked the person up. Super young. Graduated from a good college a few years ago (not in education). Just completed a specialized teaching certificate at a small college. NO teaching experience. Should I be worried?

OP, what grade? K and above I think teaching experience (classroom management) is important.

Classroom management is important in every grade. The approach in preschool is different but incredibly vital.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

23 year Olds can afford to work for meager private school salaries.

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Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

My child loves her novice Ivy teacher who came to the school via a TFA program. Having actually evaluated multiple DCPS, DCPCS, and Independent schools, this resonated.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

23 year Olds can afford to work for meager private school salaries.

Then why are we cutting them a tax-payer-sponsored write-off on their student loans? The smart ones don't need it, after all.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

23 year Olds can afford to work for meager private school salaries.

Then why are we cutting them a tax-payer-sponsored write-off on their student loans? The smart ones don't need it, after all.

Because we want the smart ones employed in teaching our kids?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

23 year Olds can afford to work for meager private school salaries.

Then why are we cutting them a tax-payer-sponsored write-off on their student loans? The smart ones don't need it, after all.

Because we want the smart ones employed in teaching our kids?

Exactly.... Besides my kid is going into second grade. Youthful energy and smarts and enthusiasm makes up for lack of experience. Doesn't hurt that they are up on the latest in education theory and data driven results. I liked all the TFA and former TFA teachers and admins we've had so far at our charter.

Admittedly, I can relate to them because we have similar backgrounds, several of my classmates did the Peace Corps back when there was no TFA.

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^it's only a big drag when they leave... to go to law school or grad school in something completely unrelated to education but that pays better. Too bad.

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The student loan pay off for teaching is very small. 5k for five years of teaching. It's something, but no one sticks around teaching for a 5k pay off. Have you ever considered that these teachers who end up leaving for law school really wanted to stay in teaching, but were driven out by their experiences?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:No. That's teaching in DCPS. Figure out what you can do to support her.

No, that's teaching in a charter school. Also a lot of private schools. My kid's NWDC private just loves to hire 23 year olds who graduated from top 30 universities with zero teaching experience or education degrees.

23 year Olds can afford to work for meager private school salaries.

Then why are we cutting them a tax-payer-sponsored write-off on their student loans? The smart ones don't need it, after all.

The only write off I know of is for people working in title one schools for 5 years. That one is only for about 10,000 dollars of school loans

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Anonymous wrote:The student loan pay off for teaching is very small. 5k for five years of teaching. It's something, but no one sticks around teaching for a 5k pay off. Have you ever considered that these teachers who end up leaving for law school really wanted to stay in teaching, but were driven out by their experiences?

Perhaps but I usually assume they want a more lucrative career. Even if they LOVE teaching, there are many careers that pay more.

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And when looking at the charter numbers makes sure you know what the charter founders / managers charge as "management fees" via their for-profit companies. This is less for HRCS but for mid-tier ones where parents aren't asking questions.

Even though charters receive and spend taxpayer $'s there is no public reporting of where the monies go.

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How much does the average K teacher get in DCPS v charters v private?

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Privates have no average. DCPS first year with a bachelors is 51k.