Gaza War, Part 3

[Anonymous]

"Without hunger and thirst among the Gazan population, we will not be able to recruit collaborators, we will not be able to recruit intelligence, we will not be able to bribe people, with food, drink, medicine, in order to obtain intelligence" - Israeli Knesset MK Tally Gotliv

Yeah, that's also a great recipe for creating more terrorists and insuring that the animosities extend to the next generation. Christ, no wonder we're still dealing with this crap after 70+ years.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a lovely lady! Give them a few weeks and they'll say that they need it for science or something.

It’s war. Hamas shouldn’t have started it.
Also, Israel already has members of Hamas and Gazans acting as CIs and on the take. How do you think they got Hamas’ number two lackey?
Must suck for Hamas fighters as they realize the guy they’re sharing a tunnel with might very well be feeding the Mossad and Shin Bet intelligence.

I see we have in our midst a person who believes the rules of war do not exist. Okay.

CIs? lol. They must not pay them very well or they would have heard of the 10/7 plans before, not after.

Wait. I thought Israel knew well in advance of the attack. LOL.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Here's a thoughtful article by Raz Segal from the magazine Jewish Currents that describes what Israel is doing in Gaza as a textbook case of genocide: https://jewishcurrents.org/a-textbook-case-of-genocide

South Africa got it right.

As someone who has spent a lot of time in South Africa, uh, no.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a lovely lady! Give them a few weeks and they'll say that they need it for science or something.

It’s war. Hamas shouldn’t have started it.
Also, Israel already has members of Hamas and Gazans acting as CIs and on the take. How do you think they got Hamas’ number two lackey?
Must suck for Hamas fighters as they realize the guy they’re sharing a tunnel with might very well be feeding the Mossad and Shin Bet intelligence.

Should Hitler have said the same? That war justifies everything? How would you have felt then? To this day people are not allowed to forget holocaust but Israelis are too happy to justify their own holocaust the moment they amassed power? Really???

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Without hunger and thirst among the Gazan population, we will not be able to recruit collaborators, we will not be able to recruit intelligence, we will not be able to bribe people, with food, drink, medicine, in order to obtain intelligence" - Israeli Knesset MK Tally Gotliv

Yeah, that's also a great recipe for creating more terrorists and insuring that the animosities extend to the next generation. Christ, no wonder we're still dealing with this crap after 70+ years.

If that’s what Palestinians aspire to, so be it. They too will meet the same ignoble fate as their fathers.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:What a lovely lady! Give them a few weeks and they'll say that they need it for science or something.

It’s war. Hamas shouldn’t have started it.
Also, Israel already has members of Hamas and Gazans acting as CIs and on the take. How do you think they got Hamas’ number two lackey?
Must suck for Hamas fighters as they realize the guy they’re sharing a tunnel with might very well be feeding the Mossad and Shin Bet intelligence.

Should Hitler have said the same? That war justifies everything? How would you have felt then? To this day people are not allowed to forget holocaust but Israelis are too happy to justify their own holocaust the moment they amassed power? Really???

Like Hamas, Hitler chose to start a war. Like Hamas, Hitler based his war on fanaticism. Like Hamas, Hitler imposed upon his people useless suffering and ultimately lead his people to total defeat. The Nazis and Hamas share the same circle of hell.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:"Without hunger and thirst among the Gazan population, we will not be able to recruit collaborators, we will not be able to recruit intelligence, we will not be able to bribe people, with food, drink, medicine, in order to obtain intelligence" - Israeli Knesset MK Tally Gotliv

Yeah, that's also a great recipe for creating more terrorists and insuring that the animosities extend to the next generation. Christ, no wonder we're still dealing with this crap after 70+ years.

The fact that they have to stoop so low as to starve Palestinians to get intelligence and are incompetent enough to even admit it shows how bad Israeli intel has gotten these days . Gone are the glory days.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Hamas used Al-Shifa hospital as a command center.

This disgusting Hamas tactic effectively turned the injured patients and doctors into human shields.

But, what else would you expect from a designated terrorist organization like Hamas or IS ?

LOL no. At this stage IDF will declare anything in Gaza a command center, and sheep like you will nod.

Keep insulting our intelligence...

Only useful idiots continue to deny that Hamas embeds all kinds of military infrastructure among civilians.

All evidence shows that They don’t though. Not because they care about their civilians. It’s because they care about their weapons more. They don’t want their arsenals that are expensive and troublesome to create destroyed by Israel. They keep everything underground except their civilians. That’s the least valuable thing in Gaza to them

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why is the US involved with Israel? Why is the US the guarantee of Israel’s existence and its endless war?

If Israel can not stand by itself after 75 years it will always be a dependent of the US. It’s time to end our support for Israel.

Israel is viewed as a key US ally in the Middle East. The Guardian had a long article that pointed out that the US keeps a lot of our weapon stockpile in Israel (we sort of use it like a military base).

lol Israel will not let US troops on Israel territory unless they get huge concessions like in the gulf war. US aircraft are not allowed to use bases in Israel or fly over Israel territory. Would have been nice to have US planes flying out of Israel when the US was fighting ISIS and in Syria but our “ally” Israel was helping ISIS and making deals with the Russians.

Those weapons stored in Israel are from Israeli use only. We wanted to move those weapons to the Ukraine but Israel had a cow and stopped that.

Israel is not viewed as a “key” ally by anyone including the US. It is viewed as a liability and all its intelligence is suspect and not trusted. It is a very one way relationship with Israel giving nothing in return.

That’s really bold. We build their military and they use our weapons, but we can’t use their bases or airspace?

What kinda ally is Israel really? They’ve never helped us in any war. Even Muslim countries helped us militarily post 9/11 with the rest of the world even it was to their detriment with terror attacks like Pakistan. Israel has never been the friend we are told that they are to us. They don’t have much skin in the game to help Americans

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a lovely lady! Give them a few weeks and they'll say that they need it for science or something.

It’s war. Hamas shouldn’t have started it.
Also, Israel already has members of Hamas and Gazans acting as CIs and on the take. How do you think they got Hamas’ number two lackey?
Must suck for Hamas fighters as they realize the guy they’re sharing a tunnel with might very well be feeding the Mossad and Shin Bet intelligence.

Hamas has that paranoia anyway even before 10/7. That’s why they don’t mingle or hide among civilians and the human shield argument is weak. They make their terrorists take blood oaths and don’t allow their terrorists to communicate with family or have cells phones. They assume anyone can be a spy or telling information to family is a liability because they can spy. This is what makes them so dangerous. Israel is a little too late for the spy game. They should’ve had a spy in Hamas years ago . Instead, they were too busy on arresting 10 year old boys in the West Bank for throwing pebbles at settlers or the IDF

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why is the US involved with Israel? Why is the US the guarantee of Israel’s existence and its endless war?

If Israel can not stand by itself after 75 years it will always be a dependent of the US. It’s time to end our support for Israel.

Israel is viewed as a key US ally in the Middle East. The Guardian had a long article that pointed out that the US keeps a lot of our weapon stockpile in Israel (we sort of use it like a military base).

Israel is not an ally if you consider an alliance to be mutually beneficial. They have never and will never deploy alongside US troops in combat. Those weapons caches are meant for use by the Israelis. On paper they are ours, but that's were we go when Israel needs their stockpiles replenished. We have the same stockpiles in Turkey and the Gulf States

I’m not so sure. I think there must be a reason for the US unwavering support of Israel. Maybe we just don’t know all the details?

(I would also add that I think the reasoning should be disclosed and we should explore if it really is legit or can be changed bc I am horrified by their ongoing actions)

Blackmail is the reason. Jeffrey Epstein worked with the Israeli government.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What a lovely lady! Give them a few weeks and they'll say that they need it for science or something.

It’s war. Hamas shouldn’t have started it.
Also, Israel already has members of Hamas and Gazans acting as CIs and on the take. How do you think they got Hamas’ number two lackey?
Must suck for Hamas fighters as they realize the guy they’re sharing a tunnel with might very well be feeding the Mossad and Shin Bet intelligence.

Should Hitler have said the same? That war justifies everything? How would you have felt then? To this day people are not allowed to forget holocaust but Israelis are too happy to justify their own holocaust the moment they amassed power? Really???

Like Hamas, Hitler chose to start a war. Like Hamas, Hitler based his war on fanaticism. Like Hamas, Hitler imposed upon his people useless suffering and ultimately lead his people to total defeat. The Nazis and Hamas share the same circle of hell.

Hmmm you say this but The Rape of Berlin was a global bestseller and the Soviets got quite a bit of flak for roughing up, allegedly, the women of the defeated party. And that was 80 years ago when the rules of what could be done to people were quite a bit looser. And what Germans did to the Soviets during the war was unquestionably barbaric and brutal so it’s not like their women didn’t deserve it. Right?

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Anonymous wrote:Isn’t anyone going to comment?

US confirms hospital used by Hamas.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

What, no WMD? No glass vial to shake?

Not a subscriber to NY times, but I can tell you that neither side is squeaky clean or spotless and the first casualty in war is the truth.
Right now it is the Palestinians who are doing the dying and suffering in very large numbers.
The end does not justify the means, not anymore

The bolded- it has ALWAYS been Palestinians being murdered and otherwise killed in very large numbers since the late 1940s, and 10/7/23 is the sole exception. When you frame the conflict as you do, it’s dishonest.

Yes, they have a lot of casualties because they start wars and can't finish them. They are not the victims.

“They”? Do you think all Palestinians are to blame? Such a lack of compassion.

My understanding from reading history is that Zionists were the original provocateurs. Palestinians responded. Violence escalated with each and every back and forth. Vastly more Palestinians have died (and kidnapped, ie held without charges) than Israeli over the years. The suffering that the escalation has now reached is terrible. And has just created a new generation of people who hate Israel.

I hope the US begins to link support to Israel to changes in how they treat Palestinians. I believe this will happen in the next 20-30 years.

It doesn’t matter what you want to think or what thoughts give you comfort. The truth is, the Palestinians start conflicts, the people they started conflicts with fight back, the Palestinians can't match the fighting, then cry victim. If you want to think, think about this, after all these years of fighting, why do the Palestinians have NOTHING they want? No accomplishments?

They do. You just can't see it. Israelis and Palestinians have an unspoken contract as so many do in the Middle East. Here are the terms:

Israelis: Palestinians, I will take your land.

Palestinians: you will, but you will never feel safe in it.

This is an accomplishment?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:"Without hunger and thirst among the Gazan population, we will not be able to recruit collaborators, we will not be able to recruit intelligence, we will not be able to bribe people, with food, drink, medicine, in order to obtain intelligence" - Israeli Knesset MK Tally Gotliv

Yeah, that's also a great recipe for creating more terrorists and insuring that the animosities extend to the next generation. Christ, no wonder we're still dealing with this crap after 70+ years.

If that’s what Palestinians aspire to, so be it. They too will meet the same ignoble fate as their fathers.

Hey how hungry would you have to get to turn tricks?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Isn’t anyone going to comment?

US confirms hospital used by Hamas.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/01/02/us/politics/gaza-hospital-hamas.html

What, no WMD? No glass vial to shake?

Not a subscriber to NY times, but I can tell you that neither side is squeaky clean or spotless and the first casualty in war is the truth.
Right now it is the Palestinians who are doing the dying and suffering in very large numbers.
The end does not justify the means, not anymore

The bolded- it has ALWAYS been Palestinians being murdered and otherwise killed in very large numbers since the late 1940s, and 10/7/23 is the sole exception. When you frame the conflict as you do, it’s dishonest.

Yes, they have a lot of casualties because they start wars and can't finish them. They are not the victims.

“They”? Do you think all Palestinians are to blame? Such a lack of compassion.

My understanding from reading history is that Zionists were the original provocateurs. Palestinians responded. Violence escalated with each and every back and forth. Vastly more Palestinians have died (and kidnapped, ie held without charges) than Israeli over the years. The suffering that the escalation has now reached is terrible. And has just created a new generation of people who hate Israel.

I hope the US begins to link support to Israel to changes in how they treat Palestinians. I believe this will happen in the next 20-30 years.

It doesn’t matter what you want to think or what thoughts give you comfort. The truth is, the Palestinians start conflicts, the people they started conflicts with fight back, the Palestinians can't match the fighting, then cry victim. If you want to think, think about this, after all these years of fighting, why do the Palestinians have NOTHING they want? No accomplishments?

They do. You just can't see it. Israelis and Palestinians have an unspoken contract as so many do in the Middle East. Here are the terms:

Israelis: Palestinians, I will take your land.

Palestinians: you will, but you will never feel safe in it.

This is an accomplishment?

I dunno what to tell you. I come from a place where blood vendettas are still practiced. If you were a much stronger military power that stole my land and took away my civil rights, I would consider it a terrific accomplishment if your children cowered in fear now and again.