Why is the Foxhall Community Citizens Association scared of public school children?

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Anonymous wrote:A fascinating list of... mostly nobodies.

By all means feel free to state your identity and list your personal accomplishments.

What are the relevant accomplishments of "Angus Worthing" or "Brett Young"? Their names are listed here as though someone should care.

https://arapc.com/our-providers/angus-b-worthing-md-facr/

Dr. Worthing is a graduate of Princeton University and the University of Minnesota Medical School, where he was elected to the Alpha Omega Alpha national medical honor society and received the Medical Student Achievement Award. He completed internship and residency in Internal Medicine in 2006 and rheumatology fellowship in 2008 at Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC. He also received multiple honors including the Medical Humanities Award and nominations for the String of Pearls Award, given by Georgetown university medical students for excellence in teaching. He is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine at Georgetown University Medical Center.

Dr. Worthing has an interest in public policy. He served as chairman of the American College of Rheumatology’s Government Affairs Committee, helping to lead the advocacy agenda for rheumatology on Capitol Hill and at federal agencies like Medicare and the FDA. He also chairs the Public Policy Education Committee of the Rheumatism Society of the District of Columbia, for which he served as president in 2010. He serves on the Board of Directors of the American College of Rheumatology. He is a member of the American Medical Association and the American College of Physicians.

none of this is relevant to education

Uh, you didn’t read it, did you? Try again, focusing particularly on this sentence, “He also received multiple honors including the Medical Humanities Award and nominations for the String of Pearls Award, given by Georgetown university medical students for excellence in teaching.”

You cannot possibly pretend that this gives this person even the slightest insight into K-12 education policy. If you do, it suggests that you know neither K-12 nor graduate school.

I guess you didn't heed the advice to stop digging. So let me ask you this: Dr. Worthing came into this discussion because he was a supporter of the Keep Old Hardy Public campaign. What insight into K-12 education policy is necessary to know that signing away the Old Hardy building was a bad idea?

he's still a nobody in this conversation.

Unlike you he's willing to put his name out in public attached to what he believes in.

and you know pp doesn't do this bc...?

... she's slagging Dr. Worthing on an anonymous Internet forum.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:A fascinating list of... mostly nobodies.

By all means feel free to state your identity and list your personal accomplishments.

What are the relevant accomplishments of "Angus Worthing" or "Brett Young"? Their names are listed here as though someone should care.

https://arapc.com/our-providers/angus-b-worthing-md-facr/

Dr. Worthing is a graduate of Princeton University and the University of Minnesota Medical School, where he was elected to the Alpha Omega Alpha national medical honor society and received the Medical Student Achievement Award. He completed internship and residency in Internal Medicine in 2006 and rheumatology fellowship in 2008 at Georgetown University Hospital, Washington, DC. He also received multiple honors including the Medical Humanities Award and nominations for the String of Pearls Award, given by Georgetown university medical students for excellence in teaching. He is a Clinical Assistant Professor of Medicine at Georgetown University Medical Center.

Dr. Worthing has an interest in public policy. He served as chairman of the American College of Rheumatology’s Government Affairs Committee, helping to lead the advocacy agenda for rheumatology on Capitol Hill and at federal agencies like Medicare and the FDA. He also chairs the Public Policy Education Committee of the Rheumatism Society of the District of Columbia, for which he served as president in 2010. He serves on the Board of Directors of the American College of Rheumatology. He is a member of the American Medical Association and the American College of Physicians.

none of this is relevant to education

Uh, you didn’t read it, did you? Try again, focusing particularly on this sentence, “He also received multiple honors including the Medical Humanities Award and nominations for the String of Pearls Award, given by Georgetown university medical students for excellence in teaching.”

You cannot possibly pretend that this gives this person even the slightest insight into K-12 education policy. If you do, it suggests that you know neither K-12 nor graduate school.

I guess you didn't heed the advice to stop digging. So let me ask you this: Dr. Worthing came into this discussion because he was a supporter of the Keep Old Hardy Public campaign. What insight into K-12 education policy is necessary to know that signing away the Old Hardy building was a bad idea?

he's still a nobody in this conversation.

Unlike you he's willing to put his name out in public attached to what he believes in.

and you know pp doesn't do this bc...?

... she's slagging Dr. Worthing on an anonymous Internet forum.

Those conclusions do not follow.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Or just like there were good Americans (I won’t use quotes) under Trump.

We don’t need to look so far. In America minority rule is all too common and even ingrained in the system unfortunately.

A loud energized minority regularly hinders progress across all aspects of American life.

Are you talking about the small number of loud people that have pushed the Mayor to still build Foxhall School next to Old Hardy even though the city just bought a large school across the street? Sounds like Troy again

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

If you don't know any families with public school kids that says more about you than the makeup of your neighborhood.

Easier to just call the two black leaders stupid because PP doesn’t agree with them.

Key School EXPLODING ENROLLMENT?
Who will go to Foxhall ?

Year of Count Day
2006 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 (pand.)
K 49 59 58 61 64 68 57 81 59 55 53
5th 22 32 29 37 37 36 38 46 45 48 41
Total 284 386 375 381 383 386 397 417 399 382 346
Sources: OSSE Audited Enrollment Data, available at
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2006%20Final_Combined_Attachment_1-4.pdf
https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

If you don't know any families with public school kids that says more about you than the makeup of your neighborhood.

Easier to just call the two black leaders stupid because PP doesn’t agree with them.

Key School EXPLODING ENROLLMENT?
Who will go to Foxhall ?

Year of Count Day
2006 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 (pand.)
K 49 59 58 61 64 68 57 81 59 55 53
5th 22 32 29 37 37 36 38 46 45 48 41
Total 284 386 375 381 383 386 397 417 399 382 346
Sources: OSSE Audited Enrollment Data, available at
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2006%20Final_Combined_Attachment_1-4.pdf
https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

Those trailers that house the 4th and 5th grades at Key aren’t really there, you know? You just have to believe that they aren’t really there and they will go away.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

If you don't know any families with public school kids that says more about you than the makeup of your neighborhood.

Easier to just call the two black leaders stupid because PP doesn’t agree with them.

Key School EXPLODING ENROLLMENT?
Who will go to Foxhall ?

Year of Count Day
2006 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 (pand.)
K 49 59 58 61 64 68 57 81 59 55 53
5th 22 32 29 37 37 36 38 46 45 48 41
Total 284 386 375 381 383 386 397 417 399 382 346
Sources: OSSE Audited Enrollment Data, available at
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2006%20Final_Combined_Attachment_1-4.pdf
https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

Those trailers that house the 4th and 5th grades at Key aren’t really there, you know? You just have to believe that they aren’t really there and they will go away.

let's see what enrollment is this year. Key was scheduled to get 20$M to deal with the "trailers". Did they refuse the $$$$$?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

If you don't know any families with public school kids that says more about you than the makeup of your neighborhood.

Easier to just call the two black leaders stupid because PP doesn’t agree with them.

Key School EXPLODING ENROLLMENT?
Who will go to Foxhall ?

Year of Count Day
2006 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 (pand.)
K 49 59 58 61 64 68 57 81 59 55 53
5th 22 32 29 37 37 36 38 46 45 48 41
Total 284 386 375 381 383 386 397 417 399 382 346
Sources: OSSE Audited Enrollment Data, available at
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2006%20Final_Combined_Attachment_1-4.pdf
https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

Those trailers that house the 4th and 5th grades at Key aren’t really there, you know? You just have to believe that they aren’t really there and they will go away.

let's see what enrollment is this year. Key was scheduled to get 20$M to deal with the "trailers". Did they refuse the $$$$$?

Do you understand at all how DCPS works? There is no "they" at Key that could refuse anything. Facilities decisions are made downtown.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:As a PP stated - build schools where the demand is.

Why ship kids across the city? It makes no sense. But this is Bowser/Ferebee country where IQ does not play into facts.

If you don't know any families with public school kids that says more about you than the makeup of your neighborhood.

Easier to just call the two black leaders stupid because PP doesn’t agree with them.

Key School EXPLODING ENROLLMENT?
Who will go to Foxhall ?

Year of Count Day
2006 2011 2012 2013 2014 2015 2016 2017 2018 2019 2020 (pand.)
K 49 59 58 61 64 68 57 81 59 55 53
5th 22 32 29 37 37 36 38 46 45 48 41
Total 284 386 375 381 383 386 397 417 399 382 346
Sources: OSSE Audited Enrollment Data, available at
https://osse.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/osse/publication/attachments/2006%20Final_Combined_Attachment_1-4.pdf
https://osse.dc.gov/enrollment

Those trailers that house the 4th and 5th grades at Key aren’t really there, you know? You just have to believe that they aren’t really there and they will go away.

let's see what enrollment is this year. Key was scheduled to get 20$M to deal with the "trailers". Did they refuse the $$$$$?

That money was never real, the mayor just stuck it in to provide cover for the Old Hardy deal. It was going away as soon as a lease extension was signed anyway.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:FCCA
NEXT GENERAL MEETING
Virtual Meeting on Tuesday, April 27th from 7:00 to 8:30 p.m
Future Topics: DC Proposal to Build a New Elementary School on Hardy Park

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88942753074#success

IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR/OR AGAINST BUILDING THE FOXHALL SCHOOL ON HARDY PARK (next to the Lab School and one block away from DCPS school that will be on the GDS site).

WAS THIS THE INFAMOUS MEETING WHERE THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ASKED PEOPLE TO VOTE ABOUT BUILDING FOXHALL SCHOOL?
WAS IT RECORDED?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:FCCA
NEXT GENERAL MEETING
Virtual Meeting on Tuesday, April 27th from 7:00 to 8:30 p.m
Future Topics: DC Proposal to Build a New Elementary School on Hardy Park

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88942753074#success

IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR/OR AGAINST BUILDING THE FOXHALL SCHOOL ON HARDY PARK (next to the Lab School and one block away from DCPS school that will be on the GDS site).

WAS THIS THE INFAMOUS MEETING WHERE THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ASKED PEOPLE TO VOTE ABOUT BUILDING FOXHALL SCHOOL?
WAS IT RECORDED?


no. this was the meeting. They just asked people who lived in the immediate park area (within .25 miles )

https://docs.google.com/file/d/1CXfjtqR4vfTVRhW2iZBpLjP6q7seYXB8/edit?usp=docslist_api&filetype=mspresentation

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCCA
NEXT GENERAL MEETING
Virtual Meeting on Tuesday, April 27th from 7:00 to 8:30 p.m
Future Topics: DC Proposal to Build a New Elementary School on Hardy Park

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88942753074#success

IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR/OR AGAINST BUILDING THE FOXHALL SCHOOL ON HARDY PARK (next to the Lab School and one block away from DCPS school that will be on the GDS site).

WAS THIS THE INFAMOUS MEETING WHERE THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ASKED PEOPLE TO VOTE ABOUT BUILDING FOXHALL SCHOOL?
WAS IT RECORDED?

WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

And why does "the neighborhood" (however that's defined) get to decide how the city uses its property?

This gets to the crux of the issue. Throughout, the Foxhallers -- and I use that word in the derogatory sense -- have pushed a narrative that no one else's voice counts, and that only they -- as defined by themselves -- get to have a say.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:FCCA
NEXT GENERAL MEETING
Virtual Meeting on Tuesday, April 27th from 7:00 to 8:30 p.m
Future Topics: DC Proposal to Build a New Elementary School on Hardy Park

https://us02web.zoom.us/j/88942753074#success

IS THE NEIGHBORHOOD FOR/OR AGAINST BUILDING THE FOXHALL SCHOOL ON HARDY PARK (next to the Lab School and one block away from DCPS school that will be on the GDS site).

WAS THIS THE INFAMOUS MEETING WHERE THE COMMUNITY ASSOCIATION ASKED PEOPLE TO VOTE ABOUT BUILDING FOXHALL SCHOOL?
WAS IT RECORDED?

WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

And why does "the neighborhood" (however that's defined) get to decide how the city uses its property?

This gets to the crux of the issue. Throughout, the Foxhallers -- and I use that word in the derogatory sense -- have pushed a narrative that no one else's voice counts, and that only they -- as defined by themselves -- get to have a say.

I don’t think anyone believed the neighborhood was deciding anything. I think the idea was to let people simply say how they felt. So many of these posts are talking about who is for or against building the second school. The mayor decided to buy gds, to givet Stoddert back its funds to expand, and to keep the money in the budget to build foxhall. And the counsel members approved the budget

[Anonymous]

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This means that the 550-student campus will be built on our relatively small park (Hardy Park and Rec Center).

It's not your park.

So I read that whole thing, and I can't tell what the point was. Certainly there was no "aha" moment where I thought, "hmm, she's got a point, I never thought of that..."

So once again, arguments that seem powerful to Foxhallers are completely unpersuasive to normal people. [/quote


OBJECTING TO SOMEONE REFERRING TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD PARK AS "OUR" PARK . CHECK OUT THIS PALISADES LISTSERV POST---PRIORITY SHOULD BE GIVEN TO PALISADES KIDS!!!! THE HYPOCRISY OF THE ATTACKERS IS UNBELIEVABLE!!!! WHY ARE YOU YELLING?

PCA General Membership Meeting Tonight!
________________________________________
Anne Ourand 06/04/13 #22796

Don't miss the PCA General Membership meeting tonight (Tuesday, June 4th) at 7:30pm at the Palisades Rec Center -- the last one until October!
The agenda is chock full of interesting items!
**Nick Keenan will be presenting a resolution concerning field usage:
At both the Palisades and Hardy fields: At times when there are multiple groups interested in the same time, priority should be given to groups which serve significant numbers of Palisades residents.
When two or more groups that serve significant numbers of Palisades residents are interested in the same time, time should be proportioned with regard for the relative number of Palisades residents served.
**Jerry Price, CEO of Sibley, will be introducing the new president, Chip Davis. They will give us an update on current projects.
** Ted McCormick, the new manager of our Safeway, will be there to introduce himself (we will not be discussing future plans).
**Andy Otteman from DOE will be giving a presentation on RiverSmart Homes.
This meeting will be interesting, so please come!
Anne Ourand
PCA Administrator

[Anonymous]

It's funny how things come full circle. The PCA resolution cited above came about because Lab School was reserving both Palisades and Hardy Monday through Friday until dark for their athletics. They didn't actually need the time -- they only used about a quarter of it -- but they wanted to keep anyone else from using the parks so they would be "theirs." DPR granted them the permits in blatant violation of their own rules -- priority is supposed to be given to organizations that primarily serve DC residents, which Lab doesn't -- but apparently they were able to lean on the city government enough.

The resolution was poorly worded -- they should have been simply calling on DPR to follow their own rules. But the PCA was looking out for the interest of neighborhood residents. As I recall the FCCA backed the Lab School in this controversy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It's funny how things come full circle. The PCA resolution cited above came about because Lab School was reserving both Palisades and Hardy Monday through Friday until dark for their athletics. They didn't actually need the time -- they only used about a quarter of it -- but they wanted to keep anyone else from using the parks so they would be "theirs." DPR granted them the permits in blatant violation of their own rules -- priority is supposed to be given to organizations that primarily serve DC residents, which Lab doesn't -- but apparently they were able to lean on the city government enough.

The resolution was poorly worded -- they should have been simply calling on DPR to follow their own rules. But the PCA was looking out for the interest of neighborhood residents. As I recall the FCCA backed the Lab School in this controversy.

Documentation? Or just continued FCCA Bashing?