Jen Hatmaker

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole 'Anything you say or do can and will be used against you' applies to divorce/family court as well. BH is playing it smart by keeping relatively quiet on social media. JH though - yikes.
Her friends must get tired of being props in whatever drama she manufactures .

Must be really confusing for RH especially. One morning Mom is raging at her in front of colleagues sending her off to school in tears. Less than 24 hrs later its hugs, kisses, bubble baths, cookies and milk. Sounds like a familiar cycle in that household.

That is what living with a raging narcissist looks like. Gaslight, gaslight, gaslight.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole 'Anything you say or do can and will be used against you' applies to divorce/family court as well. BH is playing it smart by keeping relatively quiet on social media. JH though - yikes.
Her friends must get tired of being props in whatever drama she manufactures .

Must be really confusing for RH especially. One morning Mom is raging at her in front of colleagues sending her off to school in tears. Less than 24 hrs later its hugs, kisses, bubble baths, cookies and milk. Sounds like a familiar cycle in that household.

I seem to remember her using R before in a way I found concerning. She was much younger and I assume it was R since she is much younger than their other girl. It was something about her being too needy and maybe driving JH nuts. Sure I have had monents where I found my kids too needy for what i could give, but she blogged about it.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The whole 'Anything you say or do can and will be used against you' applies to divorce/family court as well. BH is playing it smart by keeping relatively quiet on social media. JH though - yikes.
Her friends must get tired of being props in whatever drama she manufactures .

Must be really confusing for RH especially. One morning Mom is raging at her in front of colleagues sending her off to school in tears. Less than 24 hrs later its hugs, kisses, bubble baths, cookies and milk. Sounds like a familiar cycle in that household.

The whole “please respect my families privacy until I need them to advance my narrative” is soooo old - speaking of most influencer and social media celebrities.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole 'Anything you say or do can and will be used against you' applies to divorce/family court as well. BH is playing it smart by keeping relatively quiet on social media. JH though - yikes.
Her friends must get tired of being props in whatever drama she manufactures .

Must be really confusing for RH especially. One morning Mom is raging at her in front of colleagues sending her off to school in tears. Less than 24 hrs later its hugs, kisses, bubble baths, cookies and milk. Sounds like a familiar cycle in that household.

I seem to remember her using R before in a way I found concerning. She was much younger and I assume it was R since she is much younger than their other girl. It was something about her being too needy and maybe driving JH nuts. Sure I have had monents where I found my kids too needy for what i could give, but she blogged about it.

Yep- I’ve always thought it was wrong the way she put her kids on display. Sad really.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The whole 'Anything you say or do can and will be used against you' applies to divorce/family court as well. BH is playing it smart by keeping relatively quiet on social media. JH though - yikes.
Her friends must get tired of being props in whatever drama she manufactures .

Must be really confusing for RH especially. One morning Mom is raging at her in front of colleagues sending her off to school in tears. Less than 24 hrs later its hugs, kisses, bubble baths, cookies and milk. Sounds like a familiar cycle in that household.

The whole “please respect my families privacy until I need them to advance my narrative” is soooo old - speaking of most influencer and social media celebrities.

It's a really interesting way to think about it....they monetize sharing their family but then get mad when people want to...know all about their family. backwards

[Anonymous]

It’s very interesting because it’s the stress of school that is getting to her. It’s not the glaringly obvious MY PARENTS ARE GETTING A DIVORCE in the middle of a pandemic. And same mom is very, very publicly struggling to keep it together. Not seeing a lot of parental rising to the occasion for the sake of the kids here. This kid’s problem isn’t school. She’s probably happy to hide behind a mask some place all day.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It’s very interesting because it’s the stress of school that is getting to her. It’s not the glaringly obvious MY PARENTS ARE GETTING A DIVORCE in the middle of a pandemic. And same mom is very, very publicly struggling to keep it together. Not seeing a lot of parental rising to the occasion for the sake of the kids here. This kid’s problem isn’t school. She’s probably happy to hide behind a mask some place all day.

Buda is a small town and JH's fangirls are everywhere including AT R's school. Broadcasting her low points for her teachers and friend's parents to see is garbage.

Jen, don't you think R has had enough abandonment trauma in her life?

[Anonymous]

I've been following this for a while to try to make sense of what's happening here. I like JH's writing voice a lot, and often find her writing very funny. I remember in her first post about the divorce she mentioned that there are some kinds of silence that are born of shame and some that aren't, and this is the latter (not born of shame). That makes me think it can't be an affair, love child, abuse, or anything like that, because it would be such an inappropriate way to describe it. I'm wondering if she's just become a vastly different person from when they got married (and possibly he could have too; obviously I don't know). I'm just thinking how hard it would be if you thought you married a "normal" person and they 30 years later you found yourself married to an influencer. It almost seems like the ultimate betrayal. I can't help but think of how many people become famous through their work, like actors, but try so hard to keep their private lives private. Being an influencer, you're still famous, but for opposite reasons - you seek it out and put your personal life on display for consumption. If that's not what you signed up for when you got married, it almost seems like it could be the ultimate betrayal. It's all just speculation, but while I love JH's writing and enjoy following her, I think she might be very hard to be married to.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It’s very interesting because it’s the stress of school that is getting to her. It’s not the glaringly obvious MY PARENTS ARE GETTING A DIVORCE in the middle of a pandemic. And same mom is very, very publicly struggling to keep it together. Not seeing a lot of parental rising to the occasion for the sake of the kids here. This kid’s problem isn’t school. She’s probably happy to hide behind a mask some place all day.

Buda is a small town and JH's fangirls are everywhere including AT R's school. Broadcasting her low points for her teachers and friend's parents to see is garbage.

Jen, don't you think R has had enough abandonment trauma in her life?

She really has developed this cult of personality. People just love her so much they are blind to how destructive it is to complain about these beautiful children, 2 of which she adopted. She shared this oh so beautiful story of getting these children and I am sure she charmed the adoption agency folks. She came around and admitted her whole white savior thing was a mistake, but yet she still puts things out there that all her kids can easily find and read themselves. Seriously? If you are struggling, get help. The internet community are not your therapists.

[Anonymous]

BH probably had enough of being the SAHD and her flitting in and out in between conferences, concerts, gigs, etc. There was obviously some tension in the home (that vlog she did in April referred to words exchanged between 'other people who live here.)

My guess is he just didn't love her anymore.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I've been following this for a while to try to make sense of what's happening here. I like JH's writing voice a lot, and often find her writing very funny. I remember in her first post about the divorce she mentioned that there are some kinds of silence that are born of shame and some that aren't, and this is the latter (not born of shame). That makes me think it can't be an affair, love child, abuse, or anything like that, because it would be such an inappropriate way to describe it. I'm wondering if she's just become a vastly different person from when they got married (and possibly he could have too; obviously I don't know). I'm just thinking how hard it would be if you thought you married a "normal" person and they 30 years later you found yourself married to an influencer. It almost seems like the ultimate betrayal. I can't help but think of how many people become famous through their work, like actors, but try so hard to keep their private lives private. Being an influencer, you're still famous, but for opposite reasons - you seek it out and put your personal life on display for consumption. If that's not what you signed up for when you got married, it almost seems like it could be the ultimate betrayal. It's all just speculation, but while I love JH's writing and enjoy following her, I think she might be very hard to be married to.

I follow an influencer on insta and she just got a divorce with a toddler. It's obvious the influencer life impacted her marriage. I think they were only married 5 or 6 years.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I've been following this for a while to try to make sense of what's happening here. I like JH's writing voice a lot, and often find her writing very funny. I remember in her first post about the divorce she mentioned that there are some kinds of silence that are born of shame and some that aren't, and this is the latter (not born of shame). That makes me think it can't be an affair, love child, abuse, or anything like that, because it would be such an inappropriate way to describe it. I'm wondering if she's just become a vastly different person from when they got married (and possibly he could have too; obviously I don't know). I'm just thinking how hard it would be if you thought you married a "normal" person and they 30 years later you found yourself married to an influencer. It almost seems like the ultimate betrayal. I can't help but think of how many people become famous through their work, like actors, but try so hard to keep their private lives private. Being an influencer, you're still famous, but for opposite reasons - you seek it out and put your personal life on display for consumption. If that's not what you signed up for when you got married, it almost seems like it could be the ultimate betrayal. It's all just speculation, but while I love JH's writing and enjoy following her, I think she might be very hard to be married to.

I follow an influencer on insta and she just got a divorce with a toddler. It's obvious the influencer life impacted her marriage. I think they were only married 5 or 6 years.

These are all great points and observations. There are so many factors, and while we can all speculate, there’s probably a ton of layers and layers of issues that have built over time. I don’t feel bad speculating- after all she’s put her on life on full display. Her schtick is that she is the everyday woman with everyday life going on. However, it seems there’s been a lot of unhealthy stuff going on. She’s used her family and, at times, put them on full display— and it’s really awkward and sad to see. She appears a bit bipolar. I mean, we’re all moody, have ups and downs, but she airs all that shit out and doesn’t seem to realize that maybe her you children and husband don’t want to be put on blast. She tries to be endearing and “real” about it, but what is her young teen daughter think about her mom displaying all of her teen emotions for everyone to consume? And I’m sure the same is said about BH. She had a few videos earlier in the summer when she literally aired their dirty laundry when she showed everyone the laundry room and the pile of clothes and other miscellaneous stuff that was in the laundry area. It hadn’t been done and she was over it. I get it, but I damn sure wouldn’t want my spouse to basically insinuate that I do nothing to help out around the place. My guess is that he was like “F this. Imma get on my bike and go pound some beers with my boys.” Who wants to be around that kind of shit?

[Anonymous]

regarding the laundry - i saw that. i even posted on it. everyone in that house is old enough to help with laundry. there was absolutely no reason for it to be plied up like that no matter who was in charge.

if i recall correctly, there was also a prior meltdown about the laundry when brandon "solved" the problem by going out and getting 2 laundry baskets per person. guess that system didn't work.

[Anonymous]

heck, if laundry was a point of contention, they could have hired a cleaning fairy to manage that.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:heck, if laundry was a point of contention, they could have hired a cleaning fairy to manage that.

It’s not the laundry— it’s the fact she outed her husband to her legion of followers. We all have shortcomings, but would you want your spouse to expose all of your flaws to the f’n world? She emasculated him through social media.

Shit— all of her luggage sitting out was quaint, but then she tailed on him for having a shit ton of the same color shirts.