Did the Takoma MS magnet got MORE white this year?

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Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

There are no "west county MCPS school districts". MCPS is the school district. And Montgomery County simply is not comparable to Lafayette/Moraga/Orinda, for obvious reasons.

"Top public schools" doesn't mean "exclusive public schools where almost all of the students come from affluent educated families" -- or at least it shouldn't.

Sounds like we agree. MCPS does not educate children from educated families well.

No, we don't agree. MCPS has everybody. Orinda public schools have rich kids. That's not a top public school district; that's a top poor-people-excluding policy. You're just like these people: https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/

[Anonymous]

"Providing an effective, challenging, and engaging education for every one of our students"

https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/


sounds good, sign us up!

[Anonymous]

Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

Are you kidding? CA schools are kind of terrible. They don't even teach algebra there until the 10th grade.

generally agree, MCPS is about 10 years following it.

however https://www.acalanes.k12.ca.us/ was not.

Our family can't make heads nor tails out of MCPS and we've been here since January trying it out. You all deserve better.

It's really a separate thread. But MCPS math curriculum is trash. It's not simply that your DC's teacher is being held up by slow students. Even at full pace the class is a stripped down version of what algebra should be.

With the advent of Common Core, CA schools do not allow MSers to take Algebra, and the rate of MSers there taking advanced math has dropped.

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-edu-algebra-segregation-20160323-snap-htmlstory.html

https://www.kqed.org/news/10610214/san-francisco-middle-schools-no-longer-teaching-algebra-1


IMO, MCPS with all its problems (and I have been a huge "whiner" on here about the new magnet acceptance process) is still better than most of CA's public school system.

I used to live in CA until a few years ago, grew up in LAUSD, and still have friends there who have kids in MS.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

There are no "west county MCPS school districts". MCPS is the school district. And Montgomery County simply is not comparable to Lafayette/Moraga/Orinda, for obvious reasons.

"Top public schools" doesn't mean "exclusive public schools where almost all of the students come from affluent educated families" -- or at least it shouldn't.

Sounds like we agree. MCPS does not educate children from educated families well.

No, we don't agree. MCPS has everybody. Orinda public schools have rich kids. That's not a top public school district; that's a top poor-people-excluding policy. You're just like these people: https://www.mtnbrook.k12.al.us/

Right. I'm just waiting for someone to suggest we look at Palo Alto schools. Sure, you can have schools that look awesome when you're in a place where the median home value is $3 million. It would be like making a Potomac School District and then saying "oh wow, look how great this school system is!" When you exclude everyone but rich kids, things look pretty rosy.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

MA.

[Anonymous]

So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

MA.

Another example of town-based districts that amplify the impact of essentially segregated towns. Show me a MA school district with the demographics of MCPS that is performing better than MCPS.

I'm not saying MCPS isn't at fault -- they NEVER should have tried to implement their own curriculum -- but you can't compare the district's performance to a state that has town-based districts.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No I'm not, we went up to Miramonte HS in the Orinda, CA city which is in the Acalanes district.

Not sure what you are really trying to argue. I'm comparing experiences at west county MCPS school districts to other top public school districts in the country. And I'm here to tell you MCPS doesn't pass muster.

If you want to learn something about K-12 education read through all their websites. Light years better than MCPS. Still have textbooks. Clear curriculum and materials on website.

If MCPS wants east county to keep dragging it down, then continue what you are doing. Right now you can't even offer west county a viable nor comparable education to other top state public K-12s. Not even comparable.

Are you kidding? CA schools are kind of terrible. They don't even teach algebra there until the 10th grade.

generally agree, MCPS is about 10 years following it.

however https://www.acalanes.k12.ca.us/ was not.

Our family can't make heads nor tails out of MCPS and we've been here since January trying it out. You all deserve better.

It's really a separate thread. But MCPS math curriculum is trash. It's not simply that your DC's teacher is being held up by slow students. Even at full pace the class is a stripped down version of what algebra should be.

With the advent of Common Core, CA schools do not allow MSers to take Algebra, and the rate of MSers there taking advanced math has dropped.

http://www.latimes.com/local/education/la-me-edu-algebra-segregation-20160323-snap-htmlstory.html

https://www.kqed.org/news/10610214/san-francisco-middle-schools-no-longer-teaching-algebra-1


IMO, MCPS with all its problems (and I have been a huge "whiner" on here about the new magnet acceptance process) is still better than most of CA's public school system.

I used to live in CA until a few years ago, grew up in LAUSD, and still have friends there who have kids in MS.

Yeah, I know nothing about current CA schools but I took Algebra in So Cal in 8th grade back in the day and MCPS Algebra, DC took last year in 7th, barely touches on the topics that class covered. My older DC didn't get to many topics until pre-calc in, wait for it, 10th grade. They've just relabeled things, MCPS has re-named things, sounds like CA actually gets there sooner.

The problem with the magnet whiners, is no matter how we divvy up those 100 (200) slots, everyone else gets crap math.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Any other U.S. public school systems doing better than MCPS that we can study and suggest improvements to Central Office?

MA.

Another example of town-based districts that amplify the impact of essentially segregated towns. Show me a MA school district with the demographics of MCPS that is performing better than MCPS.

I'm not saying MCPS isn't at fault -- they NEVER should have tried to implement their own curriculum -- but you can't compare the district's performance to a state that has town-based districts.

So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

standardized test scores does not equate to being educated well nor to potential in class.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

People also use housing costs as a proxy for affluence, which in turn is also a proxy for education.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So does MCPS educate children from educated families well or not?

Sure. The schools in the western/wealthy/white clusters are great schools. Just ask DCUM.

It's hard to make a data-driven argument here. There's no data on outcomes for kids from "educated families." The best we have is racial demographics, so people use performance by white and Asian kids as a proxy for affluence and parent education levels. Going by that, the data look good -- white and Asian kids do relatively well on state tests and AP exams. Of course, we know the reality is more complicated than that, but the numbers look fine.

standardized test scores does not equate to being educated well nor to potential in class.

I don't think you read my comment carefully. I said that it's hard to make a data-driven argument because the data to which we have access to doesn't reflect the complexity of the issue at hand.