You know that the "corporate world" is a huge place with a wide variety of jobs, right? I have never had a job that required me to work long after 5pm and I make a comfortable salary. Maybe you should find a new corproate job. |
DP. I don’t disagree but the first teacher in this exchange sounds like they’re working in a self contained special ed classroom. There’s literally no opportunity to plan or clean up or do anything besides be hands on with the students for the hours when they’re in school. That’s a big contributor to the high burnout rate. |
I’m the PP. I don’t work in a self-contained classroom, but I do have 20+ students with IEPs in my classes. As for the recommendations above, my administration won’t allow it. I am not supposed to be at my desk during a period. That would be considered “lazy” teaching. (I don’t personally agree, but I’ve had it told to me during informal observations.) Our grades must be for “valuable” and “meaningful” assignments, so they can’t be short MC assignments or worksheets. My school district provides a textbook and a bare curriculum, so it requires a lot of my unique content. I get what you’re saying about a 40 hour week. I just don’t have a situation that allows for it. That’s why I’ll be leaving. |
Lol. Where do you teach PP? Remember that line from the movie Kindergarten Cop? "Kindergarten is like the ocean. You never turn your back on it." That describes every grade at my school. In a good year, I only have 1-2 students who flip out a few times each day. They throw things and scream and destroy the room. They push/hit/kick/bite, etc. This is general ed. No teacher can sit down and grade/plan, etc with the students there. Planning time is either meetings, meetings about these students or cleaning up in the aftermath. |
Wait until Larla tells her mom that the teacher is always on her computer rather than interacting with students. |
High school teacher? I'm just guessing you teach at a secondary level because an elementary classroom teacher is not going to be able to be that automated. There is no way to get all of that done when you are running a morning meeting, facilitating a sense making session, meeting with small math groups while monitoring stations during Math Workshop, meeting with students during Writing Workshop, meeting with groups during an intervention block, preparing materials from the science kit, meeting with reading groups, etc. |
A quote from that website: The average teacher joining our program works 62 hours per week. Upon completion, the average member works just 52 hours in a typical week. 52 hours is still too much. |
No. Not all special education students. Only those who can be successfully integrated into mainstream classrooms. The definition of “successfully” is currently a total joke and needs to be legally changed. |
Yesterday I spent my planning hour in a meeting with about 10 other people. We worked on completing and discussing a personality trait survey about ourselves. |
|
My friend left teaching after 6 years to return to her college job of managing a Starbucks. She made way more money managing a Starbucks and then got promoted to district manager and then was being recruited for corporate jobs (she ended up taking a corporate job elsewhere).
Better pay, less stress, significantly better promotion potential. |
|
Yup elementary school teaching is nuts. You have to always be on and teach across all subjects with original material the whole day.
On the other hand secondary teaching can be a cakewalk. Many times the same lesson can be taught across multiple periods and its much easier to wing it by having a class discussion for example. Its an apples and oranges comparison |
Warning--off-topic. The above statement reminded me of one of my favorite stories from the "Chicken Soup for the Soul" books. https://archive.org/stream/ChickenSoupForTheSoul/ChickenSoupForTheSoul-JackCanfieldAndMarkHansen_djvu.txt
|
Nope! I teach elementary school too. You HAVE to figure out ways to do it. Do less. Grade less. Provide less feedback. For elementary school "automated" means checklists and stamps and universal rubrics and basically just lowering your standards. I've seen young teachers writing detailed responses every week into student journals. Takes hours. Then, the leave after 3 years "because soooooo much is expected of us". The school district will squeeze every inch of work out of you if you let them. "It's for the kids!!" Ideas: https://www.weareteachers.com/save-time-grading Batch scoring Homework Grades 3-5 Rubric https://www.teacherspayteachers.com/Product/Assignment-Rubric-Elementary-1469587 Universal Rubric: https://truthforteachers.com/streamline-standards-based-grading-best-practices/ |
How to Grade Papers in Class without Getting Caught: https://languageartsteachers.com/sneaky Sit at a table and enter grades. Pull students over to "conference" about their individual grade. |
That is less than most professionals. I don’t know anyone that works 9-5 exclusively and never takes work home or works outside of those hours. Most professional jobs require “extra” hours of work or preparation for various things that can’t be done during the work day. Plus most jobs don’t have the summers off and extended holiday breaks for every major holiday. |