Why is there a teacher shortage?

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Money money money. Most experienced teachers would put up with all this just to be paid what a comparable mid career office worker is paid.


It’s not the money. It’s the demands on my time. I shouldn’t need to work over 60 hours every week just to meet the minimum in my classroom. Demands are absolutely unreasonable.

You could pay me 2x my salary and I still wouldn’t stay. You can take away 20 hours of work a week and I’ll consider.


I'm a special ed teacher and I'd stay for either more money or a reduction in workload. That's a pretty common refrain I hear in special ed. Most of us work 60-70 hour weeks and get paid for 40.


What would be a reasonable amount of money for your current workload?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:What do all you 60 hour teachers teach? HS English? Is it the grading? I teach ES and don’t work any extra except near report card time. I’ve taught the same grade for years and get all my work done during the school day and leave about 45 mins after the students do each day.


HS English, and I regularly work over 60 hours a week.

I just broke down about a hour ago because I’ve been working most of the day and still didn’t get everything done. I’m not ready for Monday and I’m running out of steam.


How many papers do you assign per month?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Money money money. Most experienced teachers would put up with all this just to be paid what a comparable mid career office worker is paid.


It’s not the money. It’s the demands on my time. I shouldn’t need to work over 60 hours every week just to meet the minimum in my classroom. Demands are absolutely unreasonable.

You could pay me 2x my salary and I still wouldn’t stay. You can take away 20 hours of work a week and I’ll consider.


I'm a special ed teacher and I'd stay for either more money or a reduction in workload. That's a pretty common refrain I hear in special ed. Most of us work 60-70 hour weeks and get paid for 40.


What would be a reasonable amount of money for your current workload?


PP. Salary increase by 50% to cover the extra 20-30 hours per week that I work unpaid. The job cannot be done in a 40 hour workweek. An alternative would be to hire staff who exclusively handle the paperwork and meetings part of the job.

Since neither is likely to happen, I'm looking at other options.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Money money money. Most experienced teachers would put up with all this just to be paid what a comparable mid career office worker is paid.


It’s not the money. It’s the demands on my time. I shouldn’t need to work over 60 hours every week just to meet the minimum in my classroom. Demands are absolutely unreasonable.

You could pay me 2x my salary and I still wouldn’t stay. You can take away 20 hours of work a week and I’ll consider.


I'm a special ed teacher and I'd stay for either more money or a reduction in workload. That's a pretty common refrain I hear in special ed. Most of us work 60-70 hour weeks and get paid for 40.


What would be a reasonable amount of money for your current workload?


PP. Salary increase by 50% to cover the extra 20-30 hours per week that I work unpaid. The job cannot be done in a 40 hour workweek. An alternative would be to hire staff who exclusively handle the paperwork and meetings part of the job.

Since neither is likely to happen, I'm looking at other options.


Where do you work that teachers are paid hourly? DW and I are both teachers and we are salaried.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Money money money. Most experienced teachers would put up with all this just to be paid what a comparable mid career office worker is paid.


It’s not the money. It’s the demands on my time. I shouldn’t need to work over 60 hours every week just to meet the minimum in my classroom. Demands are absolutely unreasonable.

You could pay me 2x my salary and I still wouldn’t stay. You can take away 20 hours of work a week and I’ll consider.


I'm a special ed teacher and I'd stay for either more money or a reduction in workload. That's a pretty common refrain I hear in special ed. Most of us work 60-70 hour weeks and get paid for 40.


What would be a reasonable amount of money for your current workload?


PP. Salary increase by 50% to cover the extra 20-30 hours per week that I work unpaid. The job cannot be done in a 40 hour workweek. An alternative would be to hire staff who exclusively handle the paperwork and meetings part of the job.

Since neither is likely to happen, I'm looking at other options.


Where do you work that teachers are paid hourly? DW and I are both teachers and we are salaried.


Your contracted salary is based upon a set number of days and hours worked.
Anonymous
If teachers were respected as much as athletes and stripper karaoke pop singers we would be a country of free thinkers instead of a laughing stock of first world coutries.
Anonymous
Job growth is slowing, so it won't be long before people are driven back into less desirable jobs such as teaching. I expect the teacher shortage to improve over the next few years.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:Job growth is slowing, so it won't be long before people are driven back into less desirable jobs such as teaching. I expect the teacher shortage to improve over the next few years.


But it won’t make a difference. People can come back to teaching, but they won’t stay. We’ll simply have more of what we have now: people trying teaching for a year or two before burning out. Schools are revolving doors. Bring in new teachers, wear them out to the point of misery, and then watch them quit. Repeat. Repeat. Repeat.

What we need is longevity. We need people to STAY.
Anonymous
Especially since teachers with experience are so much more skilled than the first and second years who are just trying to keep their heads above water, especially with all the behaviors we see now.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:If teachers were respected as much as athletes and stripper karaoke pop singers we would be a country of free thinkers instead of a laughing stock of first world coutries.


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