"Teacher of the Year" quits over Common Core tests

[Anonymous]

In the article (from "West Virginia's only business newspaper) quoting Stosky and Milgram

Oh, yes. Attack the messenger.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

In the article (from "West Virginia's only business newspaper) quoting Stosky and Milgram

Oh, yes. Attack the messenger.

Is the article not from the media outlet that calls itself "West Virginia's only business newspaper"?

http://www.statejournal.com/

That's what its website says.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

I am not interested in the sausage-making. I am interested in the sausage

Sorry, I want to know about the "sausage making.' I sure don't want sausage made with tainted ingredients or stuffed by those who have not washed their hands.

If the sausage was made with tainted ingredients or stuffed by people who haven't washed their hands, then wouldn't that be evident in the sausage?

[Anonymous]

If the sausage was made with tainted ingredients or stuffed by people who haven't washed their hands, then wouldn't that be evident in the sausage?

Exactly. And, it is evident that the standards have serious problems. They don't taste good and they can do harm.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If the sausage was made with tainted ingredients or stuffed by people who haven't washed their hands, then wouldn't that be evident in the sausage?

Exactly. And, it is evident that the standards have serious problems. They don't taste good and they can do harm.

OK, now we're back to the standards. Which standards, specifically, have serious problems, and what are those problems?

[Anonymous]

OK, now we're back to the standards. Which standards, specifically, have serious problems, and what are those problems?

Go read the other threads. There are plenty--starting in K. You just think that you know more than teachers. You don't.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

OK, now we're back to the standards. Which standards, specifically, have serious problems, and what are those problems?

Go read the other threads. There are plenty--starting in K. You just think that you know more than teachers. You don't.

I've read the other threads.

If there are plenty, then it should be easy for you to post one or two here on this thread.

[Anonymous]

If there are plenty, then it should be easy for you to post one or two here on this thread.

Okay. I can easily do that. I will do it after you tell us who selected the committees--and, I mean, who had the authority and the final say. A name.

[Anonymous]

Just to show good faith: Here is a link to a K standard that a principal thinks is not clear. It doesn't happen to be one that I object to as much as some others.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/17/why-i-once-liked-common-core-but-changed-my-mind-one-principals-view/

Waiting for your post on who was in charge.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

If there are plenty, then it should be easy for you to post one or two here on this thread.

Okay. I can easily do that. I will do it after you tell us who selected the committees--and, I mean, who had the authority and the final say. A name.

But I don't care who selected the committees. Whereas you care about the standards you consider inappropriate.

[Anonymous]

But I don't care who selected the committees.

Wow. Why do you think they are good when so many have pointed out problems with them? Just because?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Just to show good faith: Here is a link to a K standard that a principal thinks is not clear. It doesn't happen to be one that I object to as much as some others.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/17/why-i-once-liked-common-core-but-changed-my-mind-one-principals-view/

Waiting for your post on who was in charge.

Ok, the standard is:

CCSS.Math.Content.K.NBT.A.1
Compose and decompose numbers from 11 to 19 into ten ones and some further ones, e.g., by using objects or drawings, and record each composition or decomposition by a drawing or equation (such as 18 = 10 + 8); understand that these numbers are composed of ten ones and one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, or nine ones.

It seems quite clear to me. According to the standard, kindergarteners should be able to show that (for example) 15 consists of ten ones plus five more ones and should be able to demonstrate this in some way, using a drawing or writing an equation. Why do you think that it's not clear? Also, is your main objection to the writing of the standard or to the content of the standard? The principle in the blog post you cite only says that the standard is "unsuitable".

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

But I don't care who selected the committees.

Wow. Why do you think they are good when so many have pointed out problems with them? Just because?

Because I care about the sausage, not the sausage-making. As you (or somebody) said, if there were meaningful problems with the sausage-making, then that should be evident in the sausage. So let's look at the sausage.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Just to show good faith: Here is a link to a K standard that a principal thinks is not clear. It doesn't happen to be one that I object to as much as some others.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/answer-sheet/wp/2015/02/17/why-i-once-liked-common-core-but-changed-my-mind-one-principals-view/

Waiting for your post on who was in charge.

Ok, the standard is:

CCSS.Math.Content.K.NBT.A.1
Compose and decompose numbers from 11 to 19 into ten ones and some further ones, e.g., by using objects or drawings, and record each composition or decomposition by a drawing or equation (such as 18 = 10 + 8); understand that these numbers are composed of ten ones and one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, or nine ones.

It seems quite clear to me. According to the standard, kindergarteners should be able to show that (for example) 15 consists of ten ones plus five more ones and should be able to demonstrate this in some way, using a drawing or writing an equation. Why do you think that it's not clear? Also, is your main objection to the writing of the standard or to the content of the standard? The principle in the blog post you cite only says that the standard is "unsuitable".

This should be a 1st grade standard, not a K standard.

[Anonymous]

Your big objection is that it should be a first-grade standard, not a kindergarten standard?