Shooting at Dallas ICE Facility

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joshua Jahn used this image as his profile picture.



This indicates an affinity for leftist, communist, or anti-establishment ideologies, such as those associated with Antifa or broader anti-capitalist sentiments.

No it doesn't. It's a fricking meme. You all fundamentally do not understand the language of the internet these kids live in. Memes have layers and layers of meaning, and can mean different things to different online communities. They are never as straightforward as you boomers try to make them.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

[Anonymous]

I do not understand why maga is fighting maga. First the Kirk thing and now this attack.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

[Anonymous]

I think that the point is that no, no leftist will ever admit that they have a political violence problem. They just redefine all the perpetrators to not be leftist no matter how glaring the evidence base is.

The right does this too, of course.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Joshua Jahn used this image as his profile picture.



This indicates an affinity for leftist, communist, or anti-establishment ideologies, such as those associated with Antifa or broader anti-capitalist sentiments.

Looks like Valhala Patel cosplaying a tough guy.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just came here to post that article. The commonality among so many of these shooters is being terminally online and withdrawn. 4chan is a pipeline to antisocial behavior.

Yeah, that. And being surrounded by deep red MAGA gun culture.

I also noticed the thousands of hours spent playing violent video games. I’m not generally a pearl-clutcher when it comes to video games, but still the desensitization to shooting violence onscreen seems like a significant part of his path toward feeling psychologically able to spray bullets at real people in real life.

And yet tens of millions of other young men in other countries around the world play games like these and manage to not go out and shoot people.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

[Anonymous]

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He didn’t shoot up a facility. He shot detainees.

Why does this need to be explained to you?

He shot up the facility and a van. He was playing spray and pray.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

And the refusal of people on the right to acknowledge the existence of right wing political violence is aggravating and alienating. So we are at a stalemate. We’ve got to get beyond this point.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

Of course it exists, but it’s far outnumbered and outweighed by far right violence. What you are seeing is reluctance to treat them as the same, and they shouldn’t be.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

The reason non-MAGA (I won't say "the left" because non-MAGA include centrists) are pushing back is because the MAGA president and VP and MAGA administration are painting it as an exclusively leftist problem and it very much is not. Here's just a sampling of their rhetoric.

Donald Trump"[/b

"The radicals on the left are the problem, and they're vicious and they're horrible and they're politically savvy."

"The 'radical left' was responsible for much of the political violence in the country."

[b]JD Vance

"Our side of the aisle certainly has its crazies... [but] proud members of the far left [are to blame for most political violence]."

"The idea that left-wing violence and right-wing violence in 2025 in America are equal, it’s preposterous."

Listening to them, you wouldn't know that on the same day that Charlie Kirk was shot, a 16 y.o. boy who was radicalized online and leaned extreme right (Neo-Nazi, white supremacist), shot up his high school in Evergreen, CO near Columbine and then killed himself. Where's all the press about that? His online posts were full of white supremacist symbolism and rhetoric.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/fbi-aware-colorado-high-school-shooters-troubling-online-posts-before-attack

So until the MAGA president and his administration admit that we don't have an exclusive "radical left wing lunatic" violence problem, you and everyone who buys into that notion can f*** right off.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just came here to post that article. The commonality among so many of these shooters is being terminally online and withdrawn. 4chan is a pipeline to antisocial behavior.

Had you listened to the press briefing that was just held, you would know that Klippenstein is full of shit and is nothing more than a far left nut who is attempting to divert attention away from the killer’s motives and mindset. He was there to kill ICE agents and many of HIS writings echoes what we hear from the left.

Minifesto note inspiration from L uigi. Lovely. Such an impact.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The absolute refusal of people on the left (and I say this as a moderate Democrat) to accept that they have a political violence problem like the right has a political violence problem is upsetting.

This guy was a leftist shooter. You look idiotic claiming anything else. Face reality, please.

His family said he's not. You look like the idiot.

You believe that? Come on. Use your head.

He shot indiscriminately. He was just trying to kill people. There was no cogent ideology. These people are just nuts. Does the US have a violence problem? Yes. Do we have an angry you men problem? Yes. It is unique to the left side of the political spectrum? No it is not.

Of course it isn’t unique to the left side of the spectrum. The right has a political violence issue too, with the same demographic. But the flat-out denialism from people on the left as to the existence of political violence on the left is aggravating. At a minimum it is extremely alienating to large swaths of the population. No one except cultists will believe that this shooter wasn’t politically aligned with the left.

There is no evidence of his political alignment with the left. Do you care about gun violence or do you care about winning points against the left? Because people like you seem way more worried about the political ideology of a murderer than you do about doing something to prevent murders like this from happening. Stop being disingenuous.