Cell phone ban in schools

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Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

Yep, because there's no way to enforce these rules, it will just end up being an even bigger distraction.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

Yep, because there's no way to enforce these rules, it will just end up being an even bigger distraction.

Why could they not be enforced? We manage it in our MS.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

Yep, because there's no way to enforce these rules, it will just end up being an even bigger distraction.

They can be enforced that’s why it’s bizarre you keep saying this. As it’s been pointed out numerous times in this thread, it’s enforceable at other schools in nearby districts. MCPS just hasn’t done that yet on a district wide level. You’re not listening to the teachers in this thread either which is even more bizarre. Giving up before trying isn’t the answer. (And no- adding ban doesn’t create a bigger distraction)

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

Yep, because there's no way to enforce these rules, it will just end up being an even bigger distraction.

They can be enforced that’s why it’s bizarre you keep saying this. As it’s been pointed out numerous times in this thread, it’s enforceable at other schools in nearby districts. MCPS just hasn’t done that yet on a district wide level. You’re not listening to the teachers in this thread either which is even more bizarre. Giving up before trying isn’t the answer. (And no- adding ban doesn’t create a bigger distraction)

except that the county won't use any of the means at its disposal to enforce these rules since those means aren't equitable

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:From the private school forum -
GDS is banning cell phones in their HS starting this fall. The train has left the station.
The following article was written by the head of GDS:

https://apple.news/A4CdeBIqgQt-e1jO0xo0-xg

I am keeping my fingers crossed that MCpS hops on this bandwagon.

They need to hear from parents. MCPS knows that teachers want to ban cell phone use and MCPS knows phones in schools are bad for education but they are scared of helicopter parents who freak out at the thought of not being able to reach their precious darling at any given moment of time

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

Yep, because there's no way to enforce these rules, it will just end up being an even bigger distraction.

They can be enforced that’s why it’s bizarre you keep saying this. As it’s been pointed out numerous times in this thread, it’s enforceable at other schools in nearby districts. MCPS just hasn’t done that yet on a district wide level. You’re not listening to the teachers in this thread either which is even more bizarre. Giving up before trying isn’t the answer. (And no- adding ban doesn’t create a bigger distraction)

I'm a teacher, though not in MCPS, and I feel like you're not getting what the dubious posters are trying to point out.

Many schools in MCPS have not been enforcing other basic things that should be no-brainers in any school. Kids should not wander the halls all day as if they're at the mall. Kids should not verbally abuse teachers. MCPS has not proven itself recently.

If someone who had failed to sink a basketball shot for years said, 'Yeah but tomorrow I'll get them in', you'd have your doubts.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Why? They will just use their chomebooks instead.

Chromebooks don’t have TikTok which is 99% of the battle. They do not abuse Chromebooks nearly as bad as they use their phones. Try stepping foot in a classroom once in awhile before making ignorant comments.

Kids at our school use instagram not TikTok. Yes they are worse on the chromebooks as it’s less obvious.

Yep, if they take away phones from these students, they'll just find something else to occupy their time.

Yea. Let’s never attempt to fix anything. Let the kids decide how everything should work. Sounds perfect!

Would be better than wasting 20% of class time attempting to enforce an unworkable policy. No matter what they do some kids aren't going to pay attention. They can't legislate this.

No, you’re so right. We should instead continue to spend 100% of class time trying to get kids off phones. You may think it’s a problem for everyone, but they absolutely distract the students trying to work. Bans work in other school systems, could easily work here but then we have attitudes like yours. It’s pathetic.

I don't think posters are saying that this shouldn't be tried. They just, after years of bad policies and execution coming from MCPS, are trying to manage their expectations.

Yep, because there's no way to enforce these rules, it will just end up being an even bigger distraction.

They can be enforced that’s why it’s bizarre you keep saying this. As it’s been pointed out numerous times in this thread, it’s enforceable at other schools in nearby districts. MCPS just hasn’t done that yet on a district wide level. You’re not listening to the teachers in this thread either which is even more bizarre. Giving up before trying isn’t the answer. (And no- adding ban doesn’t create a bigger distraction)

I'm a teacher, though not in MCPS, and I feel like you're not getting what the dubious posters are trying to point out.

Many schools in MCPS have not been enforcing other basic things that should be no-brainers in any school. Kids should not wander the halls all day as if they're at the mall. Kids should not verbally abuse teachers. MCPS has not proven itself recently.

If someone who had failed to sink a basketball shot for years said, 'Yeah but tomorrow I'll get them in', you'd have your doubts.

No. I work in a school (different district but nearby) and cell phone bans fully work. The difference is in the parents. Here everyone has already given up without actually trying. I’m not missing the point at all. I fully get what they are saying and recognize how ridiculous it is. MCPS is scared of parents. I wonder why that is…

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From the private school forum -
GDS is banning cell phones in their HS starting this fall. The train has left the station.
The following article was written by the head of GDS:

https://apple.news/A4CdeBIqgQt-e1jO0xo0-xg

I am keeping my fingers crossed that MCpS hops on this bandwagon.

They need to hear from parents. MCPS knows that teachers want to ban cell phone use and MCPS knows phones in schools are bad for education but they are scared of helicopter parents who freak out at the thought of not being able to reach their precious darling at any given moment of time

Is there a petition about this? Are parents organizing? I have to admit that some of the parents on here are so discouraging! I would have thought that all parents would support it!!

[Anonymous]

I just really am not understanding these locked bags and how they will help. Right now kids are not supposed to have phones in class...but they do and teachers seem to not want to take time away from class to enforce the rules (somewhat understandable). The same thing will happen with the bags. Kids will just bring their phones anyways not put them in the bags and teacher will not enforce the rules because they would lose so much class time on it. What am I missing?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I just really am not understanding these locked bags and how they will help. Right now kids are not supposed to have phones in class...but they do and teachers seem to not want to take time away from class to enforce the rules (somewhat understandable). The same thing will happen with the bags. Kids will just bring their phones anyways not put them in the bags and teacher will not enforce the rules because they would lose so much class time on it. What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. I think even where the bans have been implemented, details on meaningful enforcement have been scarce. I have the same questions as you.

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Anonymous wrote:From Churchill:
Cell Phones - In an upgrade to our current PMD policy, all students will be required to place their phones into pouches or "cubbies" at the front of the room during class time. This change will eliminate technology distractions during classes, while making sure students have access to phones during an emergency. They will be allowed to use them during transitions and lunch.

However, it doesn’t state what the consequences are for kids who don’t follow the policy.

There are no consequences. They can't enforce it so nobody will follow it. It will just detract from instructional time. Better to let kids who don't care about school to watch TikTok and flunk out.

Why do you keep parroting this as if it’s fact? They can enforce it and it will absolutely not take up more instructional time than cellphone usage already does. The kids who don’t care distract the ones that do care. Cellphones are problematic for every single person in a classroom. You sound very immature as well as completely clueless.

You're way out of touch. They can't even make kids go to class let alone this kind of thing. They are powerless. The county won't let them do anything because of optics.

Unfortunately, I agree 100%.

The only thing that will solve the problems of phones and absenteeism is a change in our culture. Which starts at home. Parents need to step up and have at-home consequences.

I can’t tell you the amount of times I have “gently” suffered in parent meetings that the parents should take the phone away until grades improve. They look at me like I’m crazy and mutter, “Wow, yeah we’ve never considered that.”

We’ve become a tech-dependent culture which has sad sad consequences. Tell me how generations of people survived without cell phones? Phones are not a necessity. And before you tell me, “But Frank needs his phone to tell me about after school clubs!” or “What if there is an emergency!” How about consider planning ahead and allowing kids to be taken care of by the adults during an emergency.

I've taken my kid's phone away. But, its not a huge deal as they just use the chromebook instead. Its an issue for me and them contacting me. So, we got a watch too.

If a parent doesn't want their kid to have a phone, don't send them with one. Simple.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Never seen kids use ticktocks on chromebooks and I am/was a daily Gogaurdian user.

Usually they are trying to watch YouTube videos, HBO max, or other random anime sites that make it through the piss poor 3rd party site blocking vendor. And LOTS of Games!

Exactly, mine will read the news, browse other sites.... people who think its the phones are not paying attention.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:I just really am not understanding these locked bags and how they will help. Right now kids are not supposed to have phones in class...but they do and teachers seem to not want to take time away from class to enforce the rules (somewhat understandable). The same thing will happen with the bags. Kids will just bring their phones anyways not put them in the bags and teacher will not enforce the rules because they would lose so much class time on it. What am I missing?

You're not missing anything. I think even where the bans have been implemented, details on meaningful enforcement have been scarce. I have the same questions as you.

I work in DCPS. Our kids turn their phones in at the beginning of the day. Get them back at the end. Any kid caught with one during the day gets it taken away until an adult picks it up. It’s not that difficult. Kids don’t try to keep them at this point. What is with MCPS parents and refusing to adapt to change?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:From Churchill:
Cell Phones - In an upgrade to our current PMD policy, all students will be required to place their phones into pouches or "cubbies" at the front of the room during class time. This change will eliminate technology distractions during classes, while making sure students have access to phones during an emergency. They will be allowed to use them during transitions and lunch.

However, it doesn’t state what the consequences are for kids who don’t follow the policy.

There are no consequences. They can't enforce it so nobody will follow it. It will just detract from instructional time. Better to let kids who don't care about school to watch TikTok and flunk out.

Why do you keep parroting this as if it’s fact? They can enforce it and it will absolutely not take up more instructional time than cellphone usage already does. The kids who don’t care distract the ones that do care. Cellphones are problematic for every single person in a classroom. You sound very immature as well as completely clueless.

You're way out of touch. They can't even make kids go to class let alone this kind of thing. They are powerless. The county won't let them do anything because of optics.

This is a bigger issue. Kids leave campus when it's a closed campus, don't go to class, etc. Our principal is basically like, oh well, there is nothing I can do about it. He can give detentions, and suspensions, call parents, have the kids get a zero for classwork that day, etc. Cell phones are an issue but not a top priority. Kids run the show not the adults.