TJ admissions change from Merit to Essay impact to Asian American Students

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Anonymous wrote:Merit Test based Admissions:
Class of 2019, Asian American students received 70.20%
Class of 2020, Asian American students received 71.34%
Class of 2021, Asian American students received 74.90%
Class of 2023, Asian American students received 72.87%
Class of 2024, Asian American students received 73.05%

Admissions changed to Essay based, and increased enrollment of 8th grade algebra1 students:
Class of 2025, Asian American students received 54.36%
Class of 2026, Asian American students received 59.82%
Class of 2027, Asian American students received 61.64%.
Class of 2028, Asian American students received 57.27%

https://www.fcps.edu/news/offers-extended-thomas-jefferson-high-school-science-and-technology-class-2028


So, writing is Asian students' weakness?

Students attend school to learn what they don't know and improve on underdeveloped skills. What kind of an idiot are you to belittle and pick on them?

An anti-Asian racist idiot.
Anonymous
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I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.
Anonymous
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I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.

Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.


And you know this because you’ve read all the applications?

Or is it because you assume students with a certain skin color couldn’t possibly be as “advanced” as certain other kids?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.


100% fiction.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf


So, the students from the bottom schools didn't decline the offer.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf

So almost one third of class is admitted with algebra 1, almost two levels behind in math compared to their advanced peers?
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf

So almost one third of class is admitted with algebra 1, almost two levels behind in math compared to their advanced peers?


Algebra 1 in 8th isn’t “behind”.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:


I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf


If this comment is not racist, it is exceedingly close to it. You are clearly linking the fact of more students with “the minimal math required” to more “diverse” students in the class. What do you want the reader to take away from this comment?

If you are one of the posters accusing others of being racist whenever “test prepping/buying” is mentioned, how can you post a comment like the above and not realize how racist it is?
Anonymous
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I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf

So almost one third of class is admitted with algebra 1, almost two levels behind in math compared to their advanced peers?

Yes, and the principal is doing everything to deal with the mix of talent in admitted class by facilitating upfront remedial algebra using middle school ALEKS program.
Anonymous
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I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf

But diversity was achieved. and that's a win. Standard had to be lowered but not by much.
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I wasn't aware that so many were being denied.

Yes, over 2000+ they need four more TJs to answer the stem demand.


Plenty of STEM available at base schools.
Not at the level of rigor ideal for these students, and there is not post-calc3 math available at most base schools


Not every applicant needs the TJ "rigor" to succeed in STEM. The vast majority will be served by the STEM offerings at base schools, including math.


Perhaps, but definitely the top 1.5% of students at their base school would benefit from TJ.


OK - good thing there is space for them. The PP was commenting on the thousands of applicants who are not accepted each year. Not everyone who applies is some kind of STEM superstar.


Majority of the declined students have far better advanced middle school math, english and science skills than the bottom Algebra 1 students that are being admitted based on their skin color.

Of course, it's no coincidence that algebra 1 count went from 20+ in 2024 before admissions change to 160+ in the 2025 class, and the new class was declared as having more diversity.

"Compared to TJ Class of 2024, the proportion of students in Class of 2025 admitted with the minimal required math background of Algebra 1 in 8th grade increased sevenfold, from 4.5% to 31%"
https://www.fcag.org/documents/TJ_Class_of_2025_analysis.pdf

So almost one third of class is admitted with algebra 1, almost two levels behind in math compared to their advanced peers?


Algebra 1 in 8th isn’t “behind”.

Sure, its all relative. Over three fourth of their peers are one to two years "ahead" with Geometry or Algebra 2 on day one, according to TJ Admissions.
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