Harvard President resigns

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Anonymous wrote:I think her comments at the hearing got everyone looking at her (and the other two presidents) -- but it was the evidence of pervasive plagiarism that actually did her in.

I agree.

The real scandal here is how come she was hired to begin with. Would have taken 5 minutes to properly vet her.

Nepotism, racism, or both?

It's not difficult to see Gay was (and still is) everything that was wrong about the DEI movement. Elevating highly unqualified and mediocre talent into senior roles and fast tracking people simply because of the need to fill an identity gap. Her academic history is weaker than a typical community college adjunct professor and yet she made tenure at elite universities, and she will retain her yearly salary of $900,000. And she is part of a pattern that includes Kamala Harris and some of Biden's vastly under-qualified appointees.

It is a pattern of corruption.

This form of corruption isn't unique to DEI. The same pattern happened in the Soviet Union as people with the right ideology were promoted over more capable talent. It happened in the aristocratic regimes where noblemen were appointed to high offices due to the title, not talent. Hopefully this means going forward people will be wiser as to the risks of failing people upward.

Oh, please. Wealthy "elites" (you guys love that word) have been hiring their relatives, friends, and friends' relatives for eons, regardless of merit. White men have hired other men over equally qualified women for eons as well. Thin people get hired over equally qualified fat people and so on and so forth. People often hire the people they identify with the most. There is inherent bias in many/most hires. Is that a "pattern of corruption" as well?

And surely you are trying to be humorous when referring to the hiring of "some of Biden's vastly under-qualified appointees." What, exactly, were Jared and Ivanka's qualifications to serve as senior advisors to the president? Or those of the many misfits and cray-crays that Trump hired?

+1 And wait until PP hears about the Federalist Society, i.e. affirmative action for conservatives.

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Anonymous wrote:What does plagiarism have to do with assaulting Jewish students?

She is a famous anti-Semite.

This country just hates Jews so much that even being a raging anti-Semite who went into the House floor to spew her anti-Semitic and anti-Israel message wasn’t enough to get her rightfully fired and/or arrested. It took plagiarism charges.

Yes! During her time she over saw the decline of Jewish enrollment at Harvard from 23% to 10%. This is totally unacceptable! The next President will be a lot more pro Israeli and get these number up by removing DEI and wokeness in the admissions process.

let me get this straight, she's anti-semitic because Jewish enrollment no longer represents one quarter of Harvard's student body despite making up less than 2% of the country? You realize that does not prove the point that you're trying to make. And that is victimization of Jewish students? WTF.

+1 And also it’s amazing for her to accomplish that in her tenure which was only six months long. Link?

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:What does plagiarism have to do with assaulting Jewish students?

She is a famous anti-Semite.

This country just hates Jews so much that even being a raging anti-Semite who went into the House floor to spew her anti-Semitic and anti-Israel message wasn’t enough to get her rightfully fired and/or arrested. It took plagiarism charges.

Yes! During her time she over saw the decline of Jewish enrollment at Harvard from 23% to 10%. This is totally unacceptable! The next President will be a lot more pro Israeli and get these number up by removing DEI and wokeness in the admissions process.

let me get this straight, she's anti-semitic because Jewish enrollment no longer represents one quarter of Harvard's student body despite making up less than 2% of the country? You realize that does not prove the point that you're trying to make. And that is victimization of Jewish students? WTF.

Now you know why the word chutzpah exists. There is an old Polish proverb that puts it more succinctly.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:It ties back to the CRT hysteria. All the same people and playbook.

You identified the wrong “playbook,” which is the false narrative of identity politics and all its progeny.

CRT is one such progeny, and it is based on a litany of falsehoods masquerading as “peer reviewed research.”

But the base on which identity politics rests is the bizarre leftist (and Marxist) idea of dividing the world (forcibly, if need be) into just two categories:

Oppressors and the oppressed.

This dichotomy is not just false, it is also radical and extremist.

Most Americans reject this extremism. Gay and her ilk, however, wholeheartedly embraced this radicalism, and still attempt to pass it off as wisdom. It is not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:It ties back to the CRT hysteria. All the same people and playbook.

You identified the wrong “playbook,” which is the false narrative of identity politics and all its progeny.

CRT is one such progeny, and it is based on a litany of falsehoods masquerading as “peer reviewed research.”

But the base on which identity politics rests is the bizarre leftist (and Marxist) idea of dividing the world (forcibly, if need be) into just two categories:

Oppressors and the oppressed.

This dichotomy is not just false, it is also radical and extremist.

Most Americans reject this extremism. Gay and her ilk, however, wholeheartedly embraced this radicalism, and still attempt to pass it off as wisdom. It is not.

Here is a page from the “playbook” of identity politics:



Does this chart’s viewpoint or “lens” appear mainstream, centrist, and truthful to you?

Or does it embody extremism?

[Anonymous]

She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

+1

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

As one writer put it, is Claudine Gay the hill that progressives really want to die on? She's not worth it.

[Anonymous]

Lol chickens coming home to roost 😂

Is this Cancel Culture?

[Anonymous]

All of the plagiarists, including whoever wrote Melania's "Michelle Obama" speech, should be cancelled.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Lol chickens coming home to roost 😂

Is this Cancel Culture?

And, her very professional and articulate response.

You know that you struck a chord when they go after your wife, in this case my love and partner in life,
@NeriOxman
.

I am one of the most fortunate people in the universe in large part because of Neri.

Please see her post below about today’s Business Insider piece about her dissertation. Part of what makes her human is that she makes mistakes, owns them, and apologizes when appropriate.

Neri, a former tenured professor at
@MIT
, is the author of 74 peer-reviewed papers, eight peer-reviewed book chapters, and numerous other journal papers and proceedings.

She has been awarded 15 patents for various innovations, and her work has been featured in 116 exhibitions around the world including two recent retrospectives at the Museum of Modern Art and SF MoMA.

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[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:well of course it was the "right-wingers" who scrutinized her past academic work for plagiarism.
I mean, who else is going to it it, the left wingers,
And just because they're right wingers doesn't mean they are wrong. I mean you can see the passages side-by-side and see she plagiarized.
And how incredible it was in her resignation letter to argue she has upheld "academic rigor" at Harvard.

Left wingers did review her work during peer-review but they ignored the plagiarism and decided to lower standards so she could lead Harvard. Gay didn't even attempt to defend her scholarship against their mild charges of plagiarism, she knew she was going to move up regardless.

It's also that Gay has published only 11 "scholarly" articles (several of which were plagiarized). This is a glaringly small number for a tenured professor. The Harvard provost who is now serving as interim university president has published over 10 times that number.

[Anonymous]

Everyone is grifting. We live in a society dominated by grifters. Fake it til you make it folks.

AI, Google Scholar, etc. make it so easy to see who is plagiarizing. This is going to be the big thing in 2024 - using AI to root out the cheaters.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:She got fired because she plagiarized a fkton of her writing. Read the NYtimes article showing her work side by side with the original sources.

The entire country has gone nuts. Everything is a “social justice” battle. And course curriculums now focus on “oppressors” and “oppressed”. So we have an entire generation digesting this stuff and the next 20 years will be interesting.

TLDR; Everyone is an idiot.

As one writer put it, is Claudine Gay the hill that progressives really want to die on? She's not worth it.

I think you'd have to be terminally online to believe that Claudine Gay is anything like a household word among progressives.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:well of course it was the "right-wingers" who scrutinized her past academic work for plagiarism.
I mean, who else is going to it it, the left wingers,
And just because they're right wingers doesn't mean they are wrong. I mean you can see the passages side-by-side and see she plagiarized.
And how incredible it was in her resignation letter to argue she has upheld "academic rigor" at Harvard.

Left wingers did review her work during peer-review but they ignored the plagiarism and decided to lower standards so she could lead Harvard. Gay didn't even attempt to defend her scholarship against their mild charges of plagiarism, she knew she was going to move up regardless.

It's also that Gay has published only 11 "scholarly" articles (several of which were plagiarized). This is a glaringly small number for a tenured professor. The Harvard provost who is now serving as interim university president has published over 10 times that number.

I'd be surprised if recently departed Purdue president, Mitch Daniels had published even one scholarly article.