What do you *REALLY* think of Atheists?

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists that just claim they are without any thought or research? They're a joke.

Atheists that have done research and spent time investigating a higher power. Much more respect.

Atheists who are just going a long with what the left tells them to. No respect.

Atheists who are Atheists because they parents were and have never looked into anything else? Disappointing.

Does this mean believers in God should do deep research into the Loch Ness monster before declaring that they don't believe in him?

How about Santa Claus and fairies?

DP: people who use analogies like that fall into the first category. You don’t seem to understand what it is you claim not to believe.

DP- what is the difference between Santa Claus and a (generic) god?

DP (not either of the DPs above)

Must.troll.24-7 with offensive “analogies” under the guise of being “helpful.”

Can’t be helpful if you don’t answer the question.

what is the difference between Santa Claus and a (generic) god?

The fact that you even ask such a ridiculous question shows that you have no idea what you’re even questioning. Where would one even begin to start if your premise is it there’s something that the two would have in common?

Many of us see the commonalities.

Fun tradition & rituals.
No one has ever seen them in person.
Belief that they exist.
If you are good, you get good stuff.

DP.

There are differences too:
Lots of Santa impersonators, but few or no God impersonators, except for his voice
People stop believing in Santa as children, while many continue believing in God throughout their lives
Children ask Santa for gifts only at Christmas, while children and adults pray to God for lots of things, all year long

More commonalities:
Santa and God are both men
Both are depicted with long, white beards
Some people stop believing in both Santa and God
Some people never believe in either Santa or God

More differences:
God is worshipped, Santa is not.
Santa responds only to Christian children; god responds to people of all faiths
Santa lives at the North Pole; God lives in Heaven.
Adults who don’t believe in God are often seen as stupid/evil/wrong/sad/misinformed by people who do believe in God, while adults who don’t believe in Santa are seen as mature by people who believe in God as well as people who do not believe in god.

God responds to people of all faiths?

I don’t think that is what Many religions claim. John 14:6.

Maybe not, but people of different faiths believe it.

Even the John passage you quote - many people of faith including myself do not interpret that as gate keeping through one valid religious path. I don’t think Jesus is talking about “I am The way the Truth and the Life. No one gets to the father except through me” in a narrow literal human ego Constrained type way. He was God embodied and therefore embodied infinity and ubiquity. If Jesus came now, I suspect he would reference the mother as well as father but the ancient Israelites were a deeply patriarchal society and he used terms they could connect with.

God knows everyone’s hearts and connects with people in culturally and personally relevant ways. People of faith of different religions have much more in common than not.

We can thank the Coca Cola company for the modern depiction of jolly fat Santa with long white beard that was derived from New York Dutch community’s Sinterklaas tradition and the 19th century poem the night before Christmas.

I don’t know anyone religious or non religious who sees Santa Claas as a religious tradition. However, many people,
Myself included see it as harmless fun for children until they hit double digits (as long as not too much emphasis on expensive gifts). They get plenty of rigor at DMV schools and light hearted suspension of fun at the end of the year brings joy to many kids.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.

^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.

It’s completely INaccurate.

There were no twist of logic or ad hominens. PP should learn the meaning of words before trying to throw them out as insults.

PP had a good point: certain atheists in this forum create an unpleasant vibe in the religion forum and are unnecessarily defensive, patronizing and aggressive. They definitely do give atheists a bad rap.

I agree. Not all atheists here are hate trolling and aggressively defensive and patronizing, and not all gish gallop through threads deflecting and derailing.

But there are two, maybe more, atheists here who hate troll 24/7, basically all the time. They absolutely drown out the thoughtful, respectful atheists. It’s understandable that they color, negatively, the perception of DCUM’s atheists.

Very well said.

I welcome insights from thoughtful respectful atheists. No one has a monopoly on truth.

Can you give some examples what you consider insights from "thoughtful, respectful atheists?" In your opinion, what would be a thoughtful or respectful insight about religion coming from an atheist?

Questions and tone that suggest a genuine desire to understand/ appreciate different beliefs rather than play Gotcha games with them.

AKA share facts

Exhibit A - no buddy your beliefs are not facts they are your opinion.

No, when we discuss facts, there will be a point where PP has no valid response and therefore claims “gotcha games”. This has happened on multiple threads.

OP (I think) asked me what I would I consider to be thoughtful respectful dialogue and I answered honestly.

You hijacked the reply with derogatory nonsense that theists can’t handle facts.

I know many scientists in both my family and friend group who are devoted theists as well. They illuminate different parts of reality and are Not necessarily in conflict.

Carry on spewing your nonsense that theists cower before your superior grasp of reality but you really are deluding yourself.

And we also have atheists/ agnostics in our extended family and friend circle but thankfully they are kind and respectful.

How do the atheists and agnostics that you know show that they are kind and respectful?

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists that just claim they are without any thought or research? They're a joke.

Atheists that have done research and spent time investigating a higher power. Much more respect.

Atheists who are just going a long with what the left tells them to. No respect.

Atheists who are Atheists because they parents were and have never looked into anything else? Disappointing.

Does this mean believers in God should do deep research into the Loch Ness monster before declaring that they don't believe in him?

How about Santa Claus and fairies?

DP: people who use analogies like that fall into the first category. You don’t seem to understand what it is you claim not to believe.

DP- what is the difference between Santa Claus and a (generic) god?

DP (not either of the DPs above)

Must.troll.24-7 with offensive “analogies” under the guise of being “helpful.”

Can’t be helpful if you don’t answer the question.

what is the difference between Santa Claus and a (generic) god?

The fact that you even ask such a ridiculous question shows that you have no idea what you’re even questioning. Where would one even begin to start if your premise is it there’s something that the two would have in common?

Many of us see the commonalities.

Fun tradition & rituals.
No one has ever seen them in person.
Belief that they exist.
If you are good, you get good stuff.

DP.

There are differences too:
Lots of Santa impersonators, but few or no God impersonators, except for his voice
People stop believing in Santa as children, while many continue believing in God throughout their lives
Children ask Santa for gifts only at Christmas, while children and adults pray to God for lots of things, all year long

More commonalities:
Santa and God are both men
Both are depicted with long, white beards
Some people stop believing in both Santa and God
Some people never believe in either Santa or God

More differences:
God is worshipped, Santa is not.
Santa responds only to Christian children; god responds to people of all faiths
Santa lives at the North Pole; God lives in Heaven.
Adults who don’t believe in God are often seen as stupid/evil/wrong/sad/misinformed by people who do believe in God, while adults who don’t believe in Santa are seen as mature by people who believe in God as well as people who do not believe in god.

God responds to people of all faiths?

I don’t think that is what Many religions claim. John 14:6.

Maybe not, but people of different faiths believe it.

Even the John passage you quote - many people of faith including myself do not interpret that as gate keeping through one valid religious path. I don’t think Jesus is talking about “I am The way the Truth and the Life. No one gets to the father except through me” in a narrow literal human ego Constrained type way. He was God embodied and therefore embodied infinity and ubiquity. If Jesus came now, I suspect he would reference the mother as well as father but the ancient Israelites were a deeply patriarchal society and he used terms they could connect with.

God knows everyone’s hearts and connects with people in culturally and personally relevant ways. People of faith of different religions have much more in common than not.

We can thank the Coca Cola company for the modern depiction of jolly fat Santa with long white beard that was derived from New York Dutch community’s Sinterklaas tradition and the 19th century poem the night before Christmas.

I don’t know anyone religious or non religious who sees Santa Claas as a religious tradition. However, many people,
Myself included see it as harmless fun for children until they hit double digits (as long as not too much emphasis on expensive gifts). They get plenty of rigor at DMV schools and light hearted suspension of fun at the end of the year brings joy to many kids.

The idea of god and his promise of eternal life for people who believe in him bring joy to many people of all ages in many cultures.

We can thank Michelangelo for the depiction of God with a long white beard in the Sistine chapel. People don't really know what god looks like.

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Anonymous wrote:Atheists that just claim they are without any thought or research? They're a joke.

Atheists that have done research and spent time investigating a higher power. Much more respect.

Atheists who are just going a long with what the left tells them to. No respect.

Atheists who are Atheists because they parents were and have never looked into anything else? Disappointing.

Does this mean believers in God should do deep research into the Loch Ness monster before declaring that they don't believe in him?

How about Santa Claus and fairies?

DP: people who use analogies like that fall into the first category. You don’t seem to understand what it is you claim not to believe.

DP- what is the difference between Santa Claus and a (generic) god?

DP (not either of the DPs above)

Must.troll.24-7 with offensive “analogies” under the guise of being “helpful.”

Can’t be helpful if you don’t answer the question.

what is the difference between Santa Claus and a (generic) god?

The fact that you even ask such a ridiculous question shows that you have no idea what you’re even questioning. Where would one even begin to start if your premise is it there’s something that the two would have in common?

Many of us see the commonalities.

Fun tradition & rituals.
No one has ever seen them in person.
Belief that they exist.
If you are good, you get good stuff.

DP.

There are differences too:
Lots of Santa impersonators, but few or no God impersonators, except for his voice
People stop believing in Santa as children, while many continue believing in God throughout their lives
Children ask Santa for gifts only at Christmas, while children and adults pray to God for lots of things, all year long

More commonalities:
Santa and God are both men
Both are depicted with long, white beards
Some people stop believing in both Santa and God
Some people never believe in either Santa or God

More differences:
God is worshipped, Santa is not.
Santa responds only to Christian children; god responds to people of all faiths
Santa lives at the North Pole; God lives in Heaven.
Adults who don’t believe in God are often seen as stupid/evil/wrong/sad/misinformed by people who do believe in God, while adults who don’t believe in Santa are seen as mature by people who believe in God as well as people who do not believe in god.

God responds to people of all faiths?

I don’t think that is what Many religions claim. John 14:6.

Maybe not, but people of different faiths believe it.

Even the John passage you quote - many people of faith including myself do not interpret that as gate keeping through one valid religious path. I don’t think Jesus is talking about “I am The way the Truth and the Life. No one gets to the father except through me” in a narrow literal human ego Constrained type way. He was God embodied and therefore embodied infinity and ubiquity. If Jesus came now, I suspect he would reference the mother as well as father but the ancient Israelites were a deeply patriarchal society and he used terms they could connect with.

God knows everyone’s hearts and connects with people in culturally and personally relevant ways. People of faith of different religions have much more in common than not.

We can thank the Coca Cola company for the modern depiction of jolly fat Santa with long white beard that was derived from New York Dutch community’s Sinterklaas tradition and the 19th century poem the night before Christmas.

I don’t know anyone religious or non religious who sees Santa Claas as a religious tradition. However, many people,
Myself included see it as harmless fun for children until they hit double digits (as long as not too much emphasis on expensive gifts). They get plenty of rigor at DMV schools and light hearted suspension of fun at the end of the year brings joy to many kids.

Besides belief in god, what are the many things that people of faith have in common?

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It’s odd to me that no one said “Santa is make believe but god is real”.

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Anonymous wrote:Children stop believing in Santa because their parents tell them the truth. Children grow up and continue to believe in god because no one told them the truth when they were little. As adults they might start questioning or might not. It’s called indoctrination.

No, not true. Children will stop believing in Santa by the teen years whether you tell them or not. I never told mine, and he just realized it on his own. He doesn't believe in God either, though, and I never told him God wasn't real. Although I never wrapped Christmas presents and said they were from God.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.

^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.

It’s completely INaccurate.

There were no twist of logic or ad hominens. PP should learn the meaning of words before trying to throw them out as insults.

PP had a good point: certain atheists in this forum create an unpleasant vibe in the religion forum and are unnecessarily defensive, patronizing and aggressive. They definitely do give atheists a bad rap.

I agree. Not all atheists here are hate trolling and aggressively defensive and patronizing, and not all gish gallop through threads deflecting and derailing.

But there are two, maybe more, atheists here who hate troll 24/7, basically all the time. They absolutely drown out the thoughtful, respectful atheists. It’s understandable that they color, negatively, the perception of DCUM’s atheists.

Very well said.

I welcome insights from thoughtful respectful atheists. No one has a monopoly on truth.

Can you give some examples what you consider insights from "thoughtful, respectful atheists?" In your opinion, what would be a thoughtful or respectful insight about religion coming from an atheist?

Questions and tone that suggest a genuine desire to understand/ appreciate different beliefs rather than play Gotcha games with them.

AKA share facts

Exhibit A - no buddy your beliefs are not facts they are your opinion.

No, when we discuss facts, there will be a point where PP has no valid response and therefore claims “gotcha games”. This has happened on multiple threads.

OP (I think) asked me what I would I consider to be thoughtful respectful dialogue and I answered honestly.

You hijacked the reply with derogatory nonsense that theists can’t handle facts.

I know many scientists in both my family and friend group who are devoted theists as well. They illuminate different parts of reality and are Not necessarily in conflict.

Carry on spewing your nonsense that theists cower before your superior grasp of reality but you really are deluding yourself.

And we also have atheists/ agnostics in our extended family and friend circle but thankfully they are kind and respectful.

How do the atheists and agnostics that you know show that they are kind and respectful?

Not the pp, but I would imagine the same as any other human does. Be charitable, help others. Don't judge and be respectful of other religious beliefs other than your own etc...

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Anonymous wrote:Children stop believing in Santa because their parents tell them the truth. Children grow up and continue to believe in god because no one told them the truth when they were little. As adults they might start questioning or might not. It’s called indoctrination.

No, not true. Children will stop believing in Santa by the teen years whether you tell them or not. I never told mine, and he just realized it on his own. He doesn't believe in God either, though, and I never told him God wasn't real. Although I never wrapped Christmas presents and said they were from God.

Yes, so not true. I don't believe in God despite my parents being Christian. I came to that conclusion on my own as a young adult. My parents also didn't tell me that Santa wasn't real, I also came to that conclusion by myself age 7.

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Anonymous wrote:Children stop believing in Santa because their parents tell them the truth. Children grow up and continue to believe in god because no one told them the truth when they were little. As adults they might start questioning or might not. It’s called indoctrination.

No, not true. Children will stop believing in Santa by the teen years whether you tell them or not. I never told mine, and he just realized it on his own. He doesn't believe in God either, though, and I never told him God wasn't real. Although I never wrapped Christmas presents and said they were from God.

Yes, so not true. I don't believe in God despite my parents being Christian. I came to that conclusion on my own as a young adult. My parents also didn't tell me that Santa wasn't real, I also came to that conclusion by myself age 7.

Other kids also tell kids that Santa isn't real. My brother told me. I didn't realize that God wasn't real until much later. My brother still believes.

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.

^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.

It’s completely INaccurate.

There were no twist of logic or ad hominens. PP should learn the meaning of words before trying to throw them out as insults.

PP had a good point: certain atheists in this forum create an unpleasant vibe in the religion forum and are unnecessarily defensive, patronizing and aggressive. They definitely do give atheists a bad rap.

I agree. Not all atheists here are hate trolling and aggressively defensive and patronizing, and not all gish gallop through threads deflecting and derailing.

But there are two, maybe more, atheists here who hate troll 24/7, basically all the time. They absolutely drown out the thoughtful, respectful atheists. It’s understandable that they color, negatively, the perception of DCUM’s atheists.

Very well said.

I welcome insights from thoughtful respectful atheists. No one has a monopoly on truth.

Can you give some examples what you consider insights from "thoughtful, respectful atheists?" In your opinion, what would be a thoughtful or respectful insight about religion coming from an atheist?

Questions and tone that suggest a genuine desire to understand/ appreciate different beliefs rather than play Gotcha games with them.

AKA share facts

Exhibit A - no buddy your beliefs are not facts they are your opinion.

No, when we discuss facts, there will be a point where PP has no valid response and therefore claims “gotcha games”. This has happened on multiple threads.

OP (I think) asked me what I would I consider to be thoughtful respectful dialogue and I answered honestly.

You hijacked the reply with derogatory nonsense that theists can’t handle facts.

I know many scientists in both my family and friend group who are devoted theists as well. They illuminate different parts of reality and are Not necessarily in conflict.

Carry on spewing your nonsense that theists cower before your superior grasp of reality but you really are deluding yourself.

And we also have atheists/ agnostics in our extended family and friend circle but thankfully they are kind and respectful.

How do the atheists and agnostics that you know show that they are kind and respectful?

Not the pp, but I would imagine the same as any other human does. Be charitable, help others. Don't judge and be respectful of other religious beliefs other than your own etc...

I think being respectful has a different meaning for people of various religions than it has for people who don't believe. In their case it means pretend you believe in God.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Children stop believing in Santa because their parents tell them the truth. Children grow up and continue to believe in god because no one told them the truth when they were little. As adults they might start questioning or might not. It’s called indoctrination.

No, not true. Children will stop believing in Santa by the teen years whether you tell them or not. I never told mine, and he just realized it on his own. He doesn't believe in God either, though, and I never told him God wasn't real. Although I never wrapped Christmas presents and said they were from God.

Yes, so not true. I don't believe in God despite my parents being Christian. I came to that conclusion on my own as a young adult. My parents also didn't tell me that Santa wasn't real, I also came to that conclusion by myself age 7.

How did you come to the conclusion that Santa wasn't real? What, if anything, did you do about it? e.g., pretend? tell your parents. tell your friends?

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Anonymous wrote:It’s odd to me that no one said “Santa is make believe but god is real”.

12:08 (not me) just did

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Anonymous wrote:It’s odd to me that no one said “Santa is make believe but god is real”.

You can trace the origins of a Santa figure so it’s easy to disprove. That’s not true about God, where we look to divinely-inspired scripture.

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Anonymous wrote:It’s odd to me that no one said “Santa is make believe but god is real”.

You can trace the origins of a Santa figure so it’s easy to disprove. That’s not true about God, where we look to divinely-inspired scripture.

how do you know it is divinely inspired? And which god? Who says you can't trace the origins? That's what textual criticism of scripture provides. You can do it the same way you can as with coca cola ads (which is the origin of santas appearance, not his legend of course).

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Anonymous wrote:God is a man made story to give humans an understanding of the meaning of life. That’s why there are different religions with different deities. All made up stories. Sorry.

Q:How did this thread go from op asking what people think of Atheists to Atheists bashing God and the beliefs of Christians?

A:all threads here end up bashing Christians

Sorry - the above is not atheists bashing God -- just someone expressing their very cogent views. You don't believe it? fine.

Sadly , some Christians react badly to having their beliefs challenged.

DP. Oh for the love of God stop hate trolling with the twists of logic and ad hominems. You’re everything people think of when they say they don’t like dealing with atheists.

Tell me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems without telling me you don’t know logic or the meaning of ad hominems.

^^ non-answer to a completely accurate charge. This is an example of why DCUM's atheists have such a bad rap.

It’s completely INaccurate.

There were no twist of logic or ad hominens. PP should learn the meaning of words before trying to throw them out as insults.

PP had a good point: certain atheists in this forum create an unpleasant vibe in the religion forum and are unnecessarily defensive, patronizing and aggressive. They definitely do give atheists a bad rap.

I agree. Not all atheists here are hate trolling and aggressively defensive and patronizing, and not all gish gallop through threads deflecting and derailing.

But there are two, maybe more, atheists here who hate troll 24/7, basically all the time. They absolutely drown out the thoughtful, respectful atheists. It’s understandable that they color, negatively, the perception of DCUM’s atheists.

Very well said.

I welcome insights from thoughtful respectful atheists. No one has a monopoly on truth.

Can you give some examples what you consider insights from "thoughtful, respectful atheists?" In your opinion, what would be a thoughtful or respectful insight about religion coming from an atheist?

Questions and tone that suggest a genuine desire to understand/ appreciate different beliefs rather than play Gotcha games with them.

AKA share facts

Exhibit A - no buddy your beliefs are not facts they are your opinion.

No, when we discuss facts, there will be a point where PP has no valid response and therefore claims “gotcha games”. This has happened on multiple threads.

OP (I think) asked me what I would I consider to be thoughtful respectful dialogue and I answered honestly.

You hijacked the reply with derogatory nonsense that theists can’t handle facts.

I know many scientists in both my family and friend group who are devoted theists as well. They illuminate different parts of reality and are Not necessarily in conflict.

Carry on spewing your nonsense that theists cower before your superior grasp of reality but you really are deluding yourself.

And we also have atheists/ agnostics in our extended family and friend circle but thankfully they are kind and respectful.

How do the atheists and agnostics that you know show that they are kind and respectful?

We Discuss subjects in calm ways with space for different views and show interest in each others’ lives and life milestones.