People who ruin neighborhoods (like tkpk) by putting their kids in private school

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Anonymous wrote:So many limousine liberals are so defensive and in complete denial ! At least the trumpers are honest about their racism.

The Trumpers I know (through family/past work/my kids ECs) all live in the exburbs & all send their kids to public.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

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Anonymous wrote:More of a vent, but i am uttterly frustrated by people with money who move into nice MC neighborhoods like tkpk or silver spring with relatively good schools to get bigger houses and then choose to put their precious kids in private schools.

We are trying to build a community and bring the schools up and these people create a bad trend of pulling a whole group of UMC kids out of the public schools because they cannot handle the diversity and challenges of public schools. All while claiming to be left leaning and to have a social compass. But that is pure white flight. It is depressing. And they dont even seem to see how political and impactful their choice is.

I really wish they stayed out of my city and went to live next to the private schools they send their kids to.

Such an ugly vent, OP. Filled with so much misplaced frustration and negative assumptions about why others make the choices they do. You don’t posses the moral high ground you think you do. In fact, the blatant and implied bias in this post combined with what seems to be a shocking lack of self awareness is pretty appalling. Do you really believe that only UMC families can bring a school up? Or that families who don’t make the same decisions as you have no moral compass?

Agree. Based on OP's post, she would be the one to ruin the neighborhood.

LMAO…can you imagine having to live next door? I’m willing to bet that this isn’t his/her only annoying pet issue.

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Anonymous wrote:I agree that putting my (upper class) children in public school aligns with my communitarian/pro-social values. Research verifies that children with advantages suffer no ill effects from being in diverse/lower performing schools, while disadvantaged children experience a lot of benefits from the resources that follow privileged children. Plus the experience helps keep my wealthy children from being snobby, out of touch, unable to relate to others, etc.

My school district did a rezoning a few years back and you should have seen the way that UMC people lost their minds over being sent to a less wealthy/less white school. I'm not saying I was all blase about my kids changing schools - obviously it means a transition for your kids to deal with - but I wasn't going to wail and gnash my teeth. Our children really show us whether we live our values or not.

But this is only true up to a point. When you have high poverty schools (60, 70, 80 percent FARMS), everyone’s performance suffers. Yes the UMC kids may ultimately be ok, but there’s a big difference in the day to day of a school that’s say 30 percent FARMS verses 80.

Takoma park is under 40% FARM

That’s true. I thought the discussion on this thread had broadened a bit.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

How can the government solve problems like 40% of a class not speaking English? What do you propose to make that type of environment acceptable for a typical American parent?

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Anonymous wrote:More of a vent, but i am uttterly frustrated by people with money who move into nice MC neighborhoods like tkpk or silver spring with relatively good schools to get bigger houses and then choose to put their precious kids in private schools.

We are trying to build a community and bring the schools up and these people create a bad trend of pulling a whole group of UMC kids out of the public schools because they cannot handle the diversity and challenges of public schools. All while claiming to be left leaning and to have a social compass. But that is pure white flight. It is depressing. And they dont even seem to see how political and impactful their choice is.

I really wish they stayed out of my city and went to live next to the private schools they send their kids to.

Such an ugly vent, OP. Filled with so much misplaced frustration and negative assumptions about why others make the choices they do. You don’t posses the moral high ground you think you do. In fact, the blatant and implied bias in this post combined with what seems to be a shocking lack of self awareness is pretty appalling. Do you really believe that only UMC families can bring a school up? Or that families who don’t make the same decisions as you have no moral compass?

Agree. Based on OP's post, she would be the one to ruin the neighborhood.

LMAO…can you imagine having to live next door? I’m willing to bet that this isn’t his/her only annoying pet issue.

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OP you need help

Make better decisions or mind your own business.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

How can the government solve problems like 40% of a class not speaking English? What do you propose to make that type of environment acceptable for a typical American parent?

I think it’s pretty clear the post was referring to housing policy and school boundaries.

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Very entitled of you, OP. It’s a shame you’re so nasty.

Donald Trump? Is that you?
Nasty women talk and all?

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I think it’s hilarious when $50,000/year private primary & secondary schools try to act so “progressive” when they have zero first gen, ESOL, undocumented or disabled students.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

How can the government solve problems like 40% of a class not speaking English? What do you propose to make that type of environment acceptable for a typical American parent?

Whoosh

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

How can the government solve problems like 40% of a class not speaking English? What do you propose to make that type of environment acceptable for a typical American parent?

Whoosh

Maybe that isn’t a problem for the public schools. Online ESL training.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Biden send his sons and daughter to private school k-12 when he was broke?

Long-time prosecutor for Wayne County (Detroit) was famously going through foreclosure on her house while sending her kid to the most expensive k-12 day school in Michigan. Unsure what it was then, but now it’s $45,000 a year for high school.

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

How can the government solve problems like 40% of a class not speaking English? What do you propose to make that type of environment acceptable for a typical American parent?

Whoosh

Maybe that isn’t a problem for the public schools. Online ESL training.

You'll have to hope SCOTUS overturns Lau v. Nichols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lau_v._Nichols

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

Eh people's parenting decisions do affect others as discussed on this thread. However, I agree it's unreasonable to expect parents to send their children to a school they don't want to send them to, purely for the good of society. Public school systems should work make the schools good so parents want to send their kids there and, to that end, local governments should support these efforts by integrating multifamily housing across the jurisdiction instead of concentrating it in certain areas. Instead the MCPS culture is "you take what you get and you don't get upset", and if people say they are leaving the school system people say "Good riddance!".

I totally agree with you. The schools are a product of (racist) housing policy. For very poor performing schools, it won’t make a bit of difference of a few UMC kids are there. This is an issue that the government has to solve, not individual homeowners.

How can the government solve problems like 40% of a class not speaking English? What do you propose to make that type of environment acceptable for a typical American parent?

Whoosh

Maybe that isn’t a problem for the public schools. Online ESL training.

You'll have to hope SCOTUS overturns Lau v. Nichols https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lau_v._Nichols

Serious question - does public school have to be in-person or can it be online?

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Anonymous wrote:Can I live in your neighborhood if I don’t have any kids? According to you, is that allowed?

+1 blaming neighbors for not sending kids to public school, whether they have kids or not, is really bizarre and none of your business

People without kids do not have the same impact. People with kids who choose to take their kids out of public school and send them to private have an impact on their neighbors, the more they are, the more they put pressure on their neighbors to not send their kids to public school. Because parents start to worry that they are not doing the right thing and if Larla and Larlo don’t go to public school it means it is not good enough.

Look, I understand the posters who say they do not care at all because the fate of public schools don’t matter to them. They have been pretty vocal on this thread and very clear about why they think public school is not something worth investing in.

But posters who think it has no impact when a growing number of UMC kids are not going to the local public schools are disingenuous or ignoring facts. Again if you don’t care, fine. But please don’t ignore the fact that it does have an impact.

Complete nonsense. My parenting decisions should have no impact on anyone else. If you care what I do, that is your problem.

This is the most reasonable response on here.

Worry about your own kids. End of story.

I agree. It’s also why I think public school-based equity initiatives will fail when measured against all school aged children. Everyone would need to think like the OP, and human nature won’t let it happen. Take care of your own.