Another gunman, another elementary school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Let it be overrun with protesters. Never forget after the Parkland student protests across the country that the NRA tweeted a pic of an AR-15 with the caption—I’ll control my own guns, thank you.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NRA/status/973944596563746816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw?ftag=MSF0951a18

Neat. Who won?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time for the north to secede. We can pass gun control and tighten our new borders with the south and west to prevent guns from coming in.

I would not be against that!

[Anonymous]

The next time you are at your child’s school notice how easy it is for someone to walk in the door with anything they want.
And never once have I ever seen a suggestion that we try and at least make that change.

There should be no school that has no entrance doors for visitors that open immediately into the actual school building.

All entrances should be double doored. And require being buzzed in twice. ID should be scanned at the door before being buzzed in the first time. The second time along with ID they need to show it again. At least this slows someone with bad ideas down.

[Anonymous]

19 children

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The next time you are at your child’s school notice how easy it is for someone to walk in the door with anything they want.
And never once have I ever seen a suggestion that we try and at least make that change.

There should be no school that has no entrance doors for visitors that open immediately into the actual school building.

All entrances should be double doored. And require being buzzed in twice. ID should be scanned at the door before being buzzed in the first time. The second time along with ID they need to show it again. At least this slows someone with bad ideas down.

You’re focused on the symptom, not the cause.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Texas Tribune update: it’s now 18 children and 3 adults dead in Uvalde elementary school shooting

And in two days Abbott is going to speak at the NRA conference just a few hundred miles from where this happened. Apparently 18 dead children and 3 dead adults is an acceptable sacrifice for some extra campaign $$.

Let it be overrun with protesters. Never forget after the Parkland student protests across the country that the NRA tweeted a pic of an AR-15 with the caption—I’ll control my own guns, thank you.

https://mobile.twitter.com/NRA/status/973944596563746816?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw?ftag=MSF0951a18

Neat. Who won?

DP. You are all sick in the head. Whatever your political views, it's sick to Tweet something like this.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:The next time you are at your child’s school notice how easy it is for someone to walk in the door with anything they want.
And never once have I ever seen a suggestion that we try and at least make that change.

There should be no school that has no entrance doors for visitors that open immediately into the actual school building.

All entrances should be double doored. And require being buzzed in twice. ID should be scanned at the door before being buzzed in the first time. The second time along with ID they need to show it again. At least this slows someone with bad ideas down.

Sad that the solution is for us to live in a police state instead of getting rid of easily available weapons and ammunition.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:The next time you are at your child’s school notice how easy it is for someone to walk in the door with anything they want.
And never once have I ever seen a suggestion that we try and at least make that change.

There should be no school that has no entrance doors for visitors that open immediately into the actual school building.

All entrances should be double doored. And require being buzzed in twice. ID should be scanned at the door before being buzzed in the first time. The second time along with ID they need to show it again. At least this slows someone with bad ideas down.

Sad that the solution is for us to live in a police state instead of getting rid of easily available weapons and ammunition.

This!

[Anonymous]

For everyone asking how he got into the school- this is rural America, not Bethesda. You can waltz into the vast majority of schools in the USA.

When will an anti automatic/semi automatic weapon ban go to vote so we can see who has no spine?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Time for the north to secede. We can pass gun control and tighten our new borders with the south and west to prevent guns from coming in.

I would not be against that!

+1

Lincoln had it all wrong.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I recently watched an Australian courtroom drama called Janet King. An entire season was devoted to a shipment of illegally imported guns. The govt launched a huge task force and splashy trial to arrest those responsible for selling a relatively small number of firearms. That’s how tightly weapons are controlled there. I almost had to laugh. And Australians have had conservative leadership for years! Why do our conservatives have such bloodthirst?

Australia used to have lax gun laws. When they enacted tighter regulation, they had a very successful buy-back program.

IIRC, the change was sparked by a mass shooting, although I might be wrong about that part.

Gun buybacks work because Australia has social trust and solidarity. We have zero social trust and solidarity in America, so it won’t work here. Gun owners have zero regard for non-gun owners. In fact, they sneeringly call us “sheep” if we don’t own a gun or if we expect law enforcement to their well-paid jobs.

True - gun control won’t work here.

We are nothing like Australia.

I’ve lived in Australia for the better part of 10 years, and live in Australia now.

You’re wrong, wrong wrong. Don’t forget the majority of American people support gun reform, support access to abortion, support raise in living wage, and on and on. There’s plenty of anti government people, trump supporters, racists sexists in Oz too.

The difference is, America’s political system is broken, half by design (electoral college) and the other half by due to longstanding and deliberate efforts by the religious right and wealthy ruling class. Australia’s government still functions. Why?

-ranked choice voting - look at our recent election. the more Conservative party (called liberal party) lost enough seats, mostly to independents, who then gave their share of votes to the labor party, to give them the win.
-mandatory and readily accessible voting centres for the entire population, not voting is punishable by fine ($50)
-higher taxes. Higher percentage of taxes to education, health and social services vs defence and tax cuts
-there is still state funded news (Australian Broadcasting system)
-no Fox News. Don’t forget Rupert Murdoch is Australian

Also we need to stop letting a document written over 200 years ago prevail over common sense in the society we live in now.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

Or God forbid acid attacks like U.K. I'd rather be shot than acid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Time for the north to secede. We can pass gun control and tighten our new borders with the south and west to prevent guns from coming in.

Who will pick your vegetables?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We have how many million people living in this country? What can possibly stop anything like this from happening? Ban guns and people will use a car to mow down a crowd of people or build a bomb.

The cat is out of the bag. We can't go back from this. Better mental health treatment might help some, but not all. There will always be some that slip through the cracks.

Oh shut up. Is this a preview of the gun lobby’s new message?

A massive buyback will *drastically* reduce the number of gun deaths. Look at Australia. This is not up for debate, it’s fact.

Regarding mental health treatment - can you walk and chew gum at the same time?

Violent GUn nuts LOVE to throw mental health around as a smokescreen. It's not like there's any increase in funding for mental health as a result of thousands of mass shootings.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:For everyone asking how he got into the school- this is rural America, not Bethesda. You can waltz into the vast majority of schools in the USA.

When will an anti automatic/semi automatic weapon ban go to vote so we can see who has no spine?

We had an assault weapons ban in this country from 1994-2004. The GOP let it expire because they do not care about people’s lives.

Now, you would have to ban much more than assault weapons to stop mass shootings.

It’s also important to remember that automatic weapons have never been legal.