what "good" college did you attend but would not necessarily recommend to your kids or others?

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Anonymous wrote:We went to visit Ann Arbor during spring break a couple years ago, and on April 1st it was snowing and 27 degrees.

Also I had heard home cute Ann Arbor was, but it looked pretty dumpy to me.

The campus and the main drag with the restaurant was cute though.

For me the weather is a big deal effing breaker. As is the ridiculous out of-state tuition relative to relatively the same quality schools in state in VA in UVA and W&M.

It is janky. It's only good to the small-minded stuck in the Rust Belt. Is it better than East Lansing, Mich.? Sure. Is it better than West Lafayette, Ind.? Sure. Is it better than Los Angeles (UCLA, USC), Santa Barbara (UCSB), Georgetown, Cambridge, Berkeley (Cal)? Obviously nowhere close.

Sure. If you like eating disorders, sitting in traffic and plastic surgery, los angles is fantastic. Enjoy!

I doubt you've ever been to LA, let alone lived there. UCLA and USC are doing just fine. Sasha Obama looks like she's enjoying the sunny weather and palm trees over the 7 degree and depressing Ann Arbor she moved away from.

Sasha also looks like she’s working on her twerking skills

While malia looks like a hobo chainsmoker. Have you actually seen them?

Look neither are serious students like Chelsea Clinton or their parents.

I don’t totally blame them.

I like seeing young black people with money and access to be free to do what they want without expectations.

But let’s paint a complete honest picture

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:You have your Rust Belt and/or Go Blue! blinders on. Depressing South Bend and depressing Ann Arbor are more alike than they’re not. Of course U-M is 4x as large, which puts a little more lipstick on that pig.

South Bend is a complete dump and there is no comparison with a Ann Arbor. ENOUGH!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to visit Ann Arbor during spring break a couple years ago, and on April 1st it was snowing and 27 degrees.

Also I had heard home cute Ann Arbor was, but it looked pretty dumpy to me.

The campus and the main drag with the restaurant was cute though.

For me the weather is a big deal effing breaker. As is the ridiculous out of-state tuition relative to relatively the same quality schools in state in VA in UVA and W&M.

It is janky. It's only good to the small-minded stuck in the Rust Belt. Is it better than East Lansing, Mich.? Sure. Is it better than West Lafayette, Ind.? Sure. Is it better than Los Angeles (UCLA, USC), Santa Barbara (UCSB), Georgetown, Cambridge, Berkeley (Cal)? Obviously nowhere close.

Sure. If you like eating disorders, sitting in traffic and plastic surgery, los angles is fantastic. Enjoy!

I doubt you've ever been to LA, let alone lived there. UCLA and USC are doing just fine. Sasha Obama looks like she's enjoying the sunny weather and palm trees over the 7 degree and depressing Ann Arbor she moved away from.

Sasha also looks like she’s working on her twerking skills

While malia looks like a hobo chainsmoker. Have you actually seen them?

Look neither are serious students like Chelsea Clinton or their parents.

I don’t totally blame them.

I like seeing young black people with money and access to be free to do what they want without expectations.

But let’s paint a complete honest picture

Also Covid has really screwed over all students these past two years. It’s almost impossible to enjoy a truly great collegiate experience anywhere. I really feel badly for today’s college attendees.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to visit Ann Arbor during spring break a couple years ago, and on April 1st it was snowing and 27 degrees.

Also I had heard home cute Ann Arbor was, but it looked pretty dumpy to me.

The campus and the main drag with the restaurant was cute though.

For me the weather is a big deal effing breaker. As is the ridiculous out of-state tuition relative to relatively the same quality schools in state in VA in UVA and W&M.

I love UM but true story here. Wanted to spend my last day in the diag wearing shorts and sandals with a coffee, just people watching. Late April and a freaking ice storm ruined that idea.

Ann Arbor? The campus, Main Street, Barton Hills are all very nice. But the rest of it like Washtenaw Avenue? Just a typical suburb with lots of 1960s type houses. So what? Most students are never in those areas.

That’s the point poster. Alumni love the school. The changeable weather only helps to bring the community even closer. Remember that most of its students come from colder climates. Winter weather is in their blood and they really don’t have to adapt to it.

The east and west coasters who go to U-M would turn it down in a heart beat if they got into another top 25. And as soon as they graduate nearly all of them depart the state of Michigan immediately. Similar phenom at Notre Dame. But at least Notre Dame faithful don't lie and try to make South Bend into something it's not. Most Notre Dame kids don't even want to be in Chicago anymore after graduation.

West coasters prefer Michigan to UVA 2-1. See, I can talk out my *s as well as you. I’m sure all of those graduates of Princeton are drying to stay in New Jersey after graduation. Many ND alumni gravitate to Chicago. It has the largest alumni club at the school.

[Anonymous]

Malia is a seriously great student.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to visit Ann Arbor during spring break a couple years ago, and on April 1st it was snowing and 27 degrees.

Also I had heard home cute Ann Arbor was, but it looked pretty dumpy to me.

The campus and the main drag with the restaurant was cute though.

For me the weather is a big deal effing breaker. As is the ridiculous out of-state tuition relative to relatively the same quality schools in state in VA in UVA and W&M.

It is janky. It's only good to the small-minded stuck in the Rust Belt. Is it better than East Lansing, Mich.? Sure. Is it better than West Lafayette, Ind.? Sure. Is it better than Los Angeles (UCLA, USC), Santa Barbara (UCSB), Georgetown, Cambridge, Berkeley (Cal)? Obviously nowhere close.

Sure. If you like eating disorders, sitting in traffic and plastic surgery, los angles is fantastic. Enjoy!

I doubt you've ever been to LA, let alone lived there. UCLA and USC are doing just fine. Sasha Obama looks like she's enjoying the sunny weather and palm trees over the 7 degree and depressing Ann Arbor she moved away from.

My UCLA summer with the sorority girls.......I think with one exception.....every single one had an eating disorder. Messed up.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You have your Rust Belt and/or Go Blue! blinders on. Depressing South Bend and depressing Ann Arbor are more alike than they’re not. Of course U-M is 4x as large, which puts a little more lipstick on that pig.

South Bend is a complete dump and there is no comparison with a Ann Arbor. ENOUGH!

Re-read the title. This is a thread for alums and parents discussing colleges they would NOT recommend to their children and other young people. If you want to go wax on about how wonderful the Rust Belt is go do it on reddit or back at College Confidential. You don't get to police posts here because you're so triggered and insecure about the miserable and decaying Midwest.

[Anonymous]

Anyone looking at the 2000, 2010, and 2020 U.S. Censuses can see Michigan and the Midwest in general are going to continue their downward spiral. In addition, it's bitterly cold and grey most of the school year. U-M will remain a strong flagship university and a great value for in-state students, but if you're a non-resident with a fully funded 529, there are far better options, in warmer and ascending regions of the country.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Anyone looking at the 2000, 2010, and 2020 U.S. Censuses can see Michigan and the Midwest in general are going to continue their downward spiral. In addition, it's bitterly cold and grey most of the school year. U-M will remain a strong flagship university and a great value for in-state students, but if you're a non-resident with a fully funded 529, there are far better options, in warmer and ascending regions of the country.

Blah blah blah. Same old rhetoric post after post. Notre Dame is in the Midwest. Chicago and Northwestern. WUSTL. Michigan has a huge endowment. It’s not going anywhere. There aren’t that many far better options. Your hyperbole is tiresome.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:You’re wrong. I have absolutely nothing to do with that school. I’m frustrated that this discussion was narrowly focused and, while completely subjective, informative. This battle over one university is ridiculous, and you’re hijacking this thread.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You have your Rust Belt and/or Go Blue! blinders on. Depressing South Bend and depressing Ann Arbor are more alike than they’re not. Of course U-M is 4x as large, which puts a little more lipstick on that pig.

South Bend is a complete dump and there is no comparison with a Ann Arbor. ENOUGH!

Re-read the title. This is a thread for alums and parents discussing colleges they would NOT recommend to their children and other young people. If you want to go wax on about how wonderful the Rust Belt is go do it on reddit or back at College Confidential. You don't get to police posts here because you're so triggered and insecure about the miserable and decaying Midwest.

Please seek professional help. Redundancy is a sign of mental instability. One person saying the same things over and over again is the definition of insecurity. There are tens of millions of Americans who live in the Midwest. Most like being there. You obviously didn’t, don't, or both. We know you wouldn’t recommend Michigan. We get it. We’ve gotten it in dozens of posts in multiple threads.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:You’re wrong. I have absolutely nothing to do with that school. I’m frustrated that this discussion was narrowly focused and, while completely subjective, informative. This battle over one university is ridiculous, and you’re hijacking this thread.

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[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:We went to visit Ann Arbor during spring break a couple years ago, and on April 1st it was snowing and 27 degrees.

Also I had heard home cute Ann Arbor was, but it looked pretty dumpy to me.

The campus and the main drag with the restaurant was cute though.

For me the weather is a big deal effing breaker. As is the ridiculous out of-state tuition relative to relatively the same quality schools in state in VA in UVA and W&M.

I love UM but true story here. Wanted to spend my last day in the diag wearing shorts and sandals with a coffee, just people watching. Late April and a freaking ice storm ruined that idea.

Ann Arbor? The campus, Main Street, Barton Hills are all very nice. But the rest of it like Washtenaw Avenue? Just a typical suburb with lots of 1960s type houses. So what? Most students are never in those areas.

That’s the point poster. Alumni love the school. The changeable weather only helps to bring the community even closer. Remember that most of its students come from colder climates. Winter weather is in their blood and they really don’t have to adapt to it.

The east and west coasters who go to U-M would turn it down in a heart beat if they got into another top 25. And as soon as they graduate nearly all of them depart the state of Michigan immediately. Similar phenom at Notre Dame. But at least Notre Dame faithful don't lie and try to make South Bend into something it's not. Most Notre Dame kids don't even want to be in Chicago anymore after graduation.

That is because South Ben is infinitly worse than Ann Arbor and most comparable Big10 towns save perhaps Champaign-Urbana.

Notre Dame is actually quite beautiful in the winter.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone looking at the 2000, 2010, and 2020 U.S. Censuses can see Michigan and the Midwest in general are going to continue their downward spiral. In addition, it's bitterly cold and grey most of the school year. U-M will remain a strong flagship university and a great value for in-state students, but if you're a non-resident with a fully funded 529, there are far better options, in warmer and ascending regions of the country.

Blah blah blah. Same old rhetoric post after post. Notre Dame is in the Midwest. Chicago and Northwestern. WUSTL. Michigan has a huge endowment. It’s not going anywhere. There aren’t that many far better options. Your hyperbole is tiresome.

Notre Dame has a niche. Everyone knows the top issue with UChicago, NU and WashU is location. U-M will always be a strong university, especially the College of Engineering, but it will slip in the rankings. 20- and 30-something ranked peers USC, NYU, UC-Santa Barbara, UVA, UC-San Diego, UNC and Wake Forest will surpass U-M soon enough. They are all located in superior booming regions with much better weather.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Anyone looking at the 2000, 2010, and 2020 U.S. Censuses can see Michigan and the Midwest in general are going to continue their downward spiral. In addition, it's bitterly cold and grey most of the school year. U-M will remain a strong flagship university and a great value for in-state students, but if you're a non-resident with a fully funded 529, there are far better options, in warmer and ascending regions of the country.

Blah blah blah. Same old rhetoric post after post. Notre Dame is in the Midwest. Chicago and Northwestern. WUSTL. Michigan has a huge endowment. It’s not going anywhere. There aren’t that many far better options. Your hyperbole is tiresome.

Notre Dame has a niche. Everyone knows the top issue with UChicago, NU and WashU is location. U-M will always be a strong university, especially the College of Engineering, but it will slip in the rankings. 20- and 30-something ranked peers USC, NYU, UC-Santa Barbara, UVA, UC-San Diego, UNC and Wake Forest will surpass U-M soon enough. They are all located in superior booming regions with much better weather.

Great! You’re enlightened. Everyone is aware of the points you’re making, as you yourself have said. You can rest comfortably because you know those schools will wither away. So there’s no need to keep beating this drum.