tell me about colleges that didn't make your kid's list

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Anyone roasting you for this is a moron. I completely agree with you. "Diversity" isn't even on our list of most important things to look for in a college. Fit is everything, and there are so many more relevant qualities to weigh, such as the ones you listed.

Diversity, which if course is much more than skin color, is one of the top 5-6 considerations for my DD's fit matrix.

Its of significant importance to one of my kids who is white but stands out with a visible physical difference and he's much more comfortable in einvironments where not everyone looks the same (even if they don't have the same difference he as). So, if it's not important to you, fine, it matters to some others so I appreciate knowing this about BC.

I didn’t pay attention to diversity and ended up transferring after a year at W&L. My experience there reminded me of the old Eddie Murphy SNL skit where he goes undercover as a white person and is shocked at how differently white folks act when there are no black people around. I actually met people who considered Jews and Catholics to be non-white and took total enmity between ethnic groups absolutely for granted. It really shook me because those people acted totally different (nice, considerate, PC) when they were around non-whites, but as soon as they perceived themselves to be alone, this whole other culture came out. I was actually dancing with a girl at a party when she suddenly started loudly singing along to the song that was playing with alternate, racist lyrics. It was pretty shocking - she had been acting totally normal up to then.

I should add that I’m from a working white class family in the South, and I had never encountered this. I have lots of relative who talk in non-PC ways, but they played sports with black people, have black friends and generally live much more integrated lives than lots of people in the north. But the creepy secret racism at W&L was totally new to me.

That sounds horrible about W&L! The BC alum weighing in here, BC lacked diversity but was not a racist culture at all.

[Anonymous]

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Anyone roasting you for this is a moron. I completely agree with you. "Diversity" isn't even on our list of most important things to look for in a college. Fit is everything, and there are so many more relevant qualities to weigh, such as the ones you listed.

Diversity, which if course is much more than skin color, is one of the top 5-6 considerations for my DD's fit matrix.

Its of significant importance to one of my kids who is white but stands out with a visible physical difference and he's much more comfortable in einvironments where not everyone looks the same (even if they don't have the same difference he as). So, if it's not important to you, fine, it matters to some others so I appreciate knowing this about BC.

I didn’t pay attention to diversity and ended up transferring after a year at W&L. My experience there reminded me of the old Eddie Murphy SNL skit where he goes undercover as a white person and is shocked at how differently white folks act when there are no black people around. I actually met people who considered Jews and Catholics to be non-white and took total enmity between ethnic groups absolutely for granted. It really shook me because those people acted totally different (nice, considerate, PC) when they were around non-whites, but as soon as they perceived themselves to be alone, this whole other culture came out. I was actually dancing with a girl at a party when she suddenly started loudly singing along to the song that was playing with alternate, racist lyrics. It was pretty shocking - she had been acting totally normal up to then.

I should add that I’m from a working white class family in the South, and I had never encountered this. I have lots of relative who talk in non-PC ways, but they played sports with black people, have black friends and generally live much more integrated lives than lots of people in the north. But the creepy secret racism at W&L was totally new to me.

It didn’t seem so secret to me. Those private school kids are always polite but underneath …

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Syracuse felt like too much of a party school

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Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is why the F don’t most schools give tours on weekends? Makes me crazy.

Because their student tour guides don't want to give tours?

I was a tour guide in college and admissions was always asking us to offer more, more, more. Giving tours on the weekend was annoying. People assumed they could monopolize you because you didn't have to get to class and sometimes the tours times meant you were either waking up earlier than you wished OR they stopped us from going to things with our friends. We were volunteers and a lot of tour guides still area.

So maybe you can tone down the anger and be grateful that students are willing to give you a few hours of their time whenever they are able to do it?

When I was a tour guide in college it was a paying job. It's not a charity.

When I did it, it was an application process to a service organization. You could sign up for days to do tours as you were able but it was most definitely unpaid. On our tours this year it sounded like about half were paid, half were not.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Christian University is off the list for very predictable reasons

Such as?

DP. Are you asking for real or baiting the PP above you?

It's Texas, which has just recently swung so far right that women are racing to neighboring states for abortions and voting rights are under serious attack. Not to mentiom the hysteria in school boards over so-called "critical race theory."

I get it -- none of that is IN colleges there. But it's become a toxic environment overall in that state. I wouldn't let my kid go there unless it was sole home to the one magical college that was the only one on the planet teaching the only subject on the planet in which DC was interested. Maybe not even then.

You do realize that at least tens (if not hundred plus) million people in this country disagree with you, right?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Syracuse felt like too much of a party school

Ever try University of Michigan?

Basically just a big state school with a huge party reputation, living off the halo-effect of its graduate programs.

But hey - that's helps it deny what should be its first priority (in state students) to get the full pay, out of state tuition from the upper class of the northeast who were all turned down by the Ivies and need a "reputational" school to boast about at the country club.

Despite that - I find their idea of "diversity" is "what suburb of Detroit are you from?"

And the Hash-Bash is only the start of a serious campus wide drug culture.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:The bigger question is why the F don’t most schools give tours on weekends? Makes me crazy.

Because their student tour guides don't want to give tours?

I was a tour guide in college and admissions was always asking us to offer more, more, more. Giving tours on the weekend was annoying. People assumed they could monopolize you because you didn't have to get to class and sometimes the tours times meant you were either waking up earlier than you wished OR they stopped us from going to things with our friends. We were volunteers and a lot of tour guides still area.

So maybe you can tone down the anger and be grateful that students are willing to give you a few hours of their time whenever they are able to do it?

The school should pay them by the hour, obviously.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter did an overnight with her cousin at Santa Clara and she didn't feel like she'd fit in there

If our world ever returns to normal, I also recommend overnight visits. They are less scripted than Admissions tours. My daughter really found them to be informative.

I would never do an overnight again. We got a bitter crazy person who did drugs in from of my kid. Not cool.

But, you kid is within months of possibly going there. Don't you want them to see what it is really like? Sounds like she dodged a bullet.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:Texas Christian University is off the list for very predictable reasons

Such as?

DP. Are you asking for real or baiting the PP above you?

It's Texas, which has just recently swung so far right that women are racing to neighboring states for abortions and voting rights are under serious attack. Not to mentiom the hysteria in school boards over so-called "critical race theory."

I get it -- none of that is IN colleges there. But it's become a toxic environment overall in that state. I wouldn't let my kid go there unless it was sole home to the one magical college that was the only one on the planet teaching the only subject on the planet in which DC was interested. Maybe not even then.

You do realize that at least tens (if not hundred plus) million people in this country disagree with you, right?

A very stupid reason for selecting a college. TCU is a great school

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Texas Christian University is off the list for very predictable reasons

Such as?

DP. Are you asking for real or baiting the PP above you?

It's Texas, which has just recently swung so far right that women are racing to neighboring states for abortions and voting rights are under serious attack. Not to mentiom the hysteria in school boards over so-called "critical race theory."

I get it -- none of that is IN colleges there. But it's become a toxic environment overall in that state. I wouldn't let my kid go there unless it was sole home to the one magical college that was the only one on the planet teaching the only subject on the planet in which DC was interested. Maybe not even then.

You do realize that at least tens (if not hundred plus) million people in this country disagree with you, right?

A very stupid reason for selecting a college. TCU is a great school

While TCU might be a good school for a few students it's located in??? Texas. Who in their right mind sends a college student to a state that has congressmen as "Bounty hunters".

Companies are not recruting from those schools either cancelation after cancelation. Rice is having a very hard time so is UT Austin.

Unless your kid is a genius and wants to work for Elon Musk in Texas, those colleges are out.

[Anonymous]

Abortion rights are very relevant to college-aged women and men.

Women aged 20-24 account for 1/3 of intended pregnancies in the U.S. In 2014, "women aged 20–24 accounted for the largest proportion of abortions (34%) and had the highest abortion rate (28 per 1,000 women in this age-group) among all age-groups studied."

https://www.guttmacher.org/news-release/2017/abortion-common-experience-us-women-despite-dramatic-declines-rates

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anyone roasting you for this is a moron. I completely agree with you. "Diversity" isn't even on our list of most important things to look for in a college. Fit is everything, and there are so many more relevant qualities to weigh, such as the ones you listed.

Diversity, which if course is much more than skin color, is one of the top 5-6 considerations for my DD's fit matrix.

Its of significant importance to one of my kids who is white but stands out with a visible physical difference and he's much more comfortable in einvironments where not everyone looks the same (even if they don't have the same difference he as). So, if it's not important to you, fine, it matters to some others so I appreciate knowing this about BC.

I didn’t pay attention to diversity and ended up transferring after a year at W&L. My experience there reminded me of the old Eddie Murphy SNL skit where he goes undercover as a white person and is shocked at how differently white folks act when there are no black people around. I actually met people who considered Jews and Catholics to be non-white and took total enmity between ethnic groups absolutely for granted. It really shook me because those people acted totally different (nice, considerate, PC) when they were around non-whites, but as soon as they perceived themselves to be alone, this whole other culture came out. I was actually dancing with a girl at a party when she suddenly started loudly singing along to the song that was playing with alternate, racist lyrics. It was pretty shocking - she had been acting totally normal up to then.

I should add that I’m from a working white class family in the South, and I had never encountered this. I have lots of relative who talk in non-PC ways, but they played sports with black people, have black friends and generally live much more integrated lives than lots of people in the north. But the creepy secret racism at W&L was totally new to me.

It didn’t seem so secret to me. Those private school kids are always polite but underneath …

“Those private school kids” are not a monolith. I went to a private university that was further South than W&L, one that had a sizable out of state population, and the weird thing is that the only openly racist things I ever heard were from people from the North. The rich North Shore Chicagoans were the worst offenders. We kids from the South were shocked at the things that would come out of their mouths. The thing about the South that people from the North don’t get is that most MC & UMC are raised to be very conscious of trying not to be racist. Doesn’t mean they’re not racist, but being racist is considered to be “trashy” behavior, both socially and ethically. My DH was raised in a LMC family in the Deep South (neither of his parents were college educated) and he said the only time his Mother ever slapped him was when he used a racist term. At first I was going to say pp was exaggerating, but as I think about it, maybe it doesn’t surprise me that this type of behavior would be more prevalent the further north you go.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Texas Christian University is off the list for very predictable reasons

Such as?

DP. Are you asking for real or baiting the PP above you?

It's Texas, which has just recently swung so far right that women are racing to neighboring states for abortions and voting rights are under serious attack. Not to mentiom the hysteria in school boards over so-called "critical race theory."

I get it -- none of that is IN colleges there. But it's become a toxic environment overall in that state. I wouldn't let my kid go there unless it was sole home to the one magical college that was the only one on the planet teaching the only subject on the planet in which DC was interested. Maybe not even then.

You do realize that at least tens (if not hundred plus) million people in this country disagree with you, right?

A very stupid reason for selecting a college. TCU is a great school

While TCU might be a good school for a few students it's located in??? Texas. Who in their right mind sends a college student to a state that has congressmen as "Bounty hunters".

Companies are not recruting from those schools either cancelation after cancelation. Rice is having a very hard time so is UT Austin.

Unless your kid is a genius and wants to work for Elon Musk in Texas, those colleges are out.

Right. the laws of Massachusetts were top on my list when i went to Harvard. Get a grip!

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Texas Christian University is off the list for very predictable reasons

Such as?

DP. Are you asking for real or baiting the PP above you?

It's Texas, which has just recently swung so far right that women are racing to neighboring states for abortions and voting rights are under serious attack. Not to mentiom the hysteria in school boards over so-called "critical race theory."

I get it -- none of that is IN colleges there. But it's become a toxic environment overall in that state. I wouldn't let my kid go there unless it was sole home to the one magical college that was the only one on the planet teaching the only subject on the planet in which DC was interested. Maybe not even then.

You do realize that at least tens (if not hundred plus) million people in this country disagree with you, right?

+100
No, the PP doesn't realize that. The PP is very, very sure of herself and her echo chamber.

[Anonymous]

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Anonymous wrote:DC thought Amherst and Wake Forest were beautiful but too precious/insulated.

Driving into Wake felt like entering a country club, complete with a guard house and gate.

It's absolutely beautiful - gate only at one entrance. There are many.