ECNL moving to school year not calendar

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:So what. Not a big deal at all. It was this way in the past - twice.


Agree. Kids will still play soccer.
Anonymous
Was there a USSF mandate for August 1-July 31 before 2017? Or was just what the major leagues had decided on?
Anonymous
My Q4 son is currently playing for MLS. His previous ECNL coach just emailed us to ask how he is doing. My guess is there will be a short window after 11/22 when you can register with ECNL as an existing player to play down in the Spring season. We are in Socal.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:My Q4 son is currently playing for MLS. His previous ECNL coach just emailed us to ask how he is doing. My guess is there will be a short window after 11/22 when you can register with ECNL as an existing player to play down in the Spring season. We are in Socal.


I doubt this will be the case for current ECNL players though as club contracts run through July 31 (it’s not like ECNL is only in fall or in spring- the league games are spread across the year). As has always been the case players outside ECNL are likely able to register at any time to join the team if there is space. But for current players they will need to play out their season and then register for the correct age group come tryouts in March-May- otherwise it would shut down the ECNl season as all teams would get disrupted mid league games…
Anonymous
This thread has made me realize that some of you are far too invested in club soccer. If you're kid is a multi-sport athlete and club soccer is all you have time for - that's fine. However, if you're focused on soccer, you should realize by U13 that club is just one outlet for your child's development. And he/she should be playing with both skilled younger kids and older kids outside of club through private training, pick up, camps, etc. Mixing up this dynamic is key to your kid's development. I get that club is a big part of the soccer landscape, and it's certainly a much more proficient platform than high school. But, stop putting your eggs in one basket. Also, this triumphant rejoice for being one of the older, bigger kids is fools gold. That might benefit them today in terms of immediate playing time, but the kids who usually end up on top are the ones who had to really scrap, fight, and struggle to earn their keep on a team and out work bigger, stronger kids. So your short term success is likely a long term setback.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:My Q4 son is currently playing for MLS. His previous ECNL coach just emailed us to ask how he is doing. My guess is there will be a short window after 11/22 when you can register with ECNL as an existing player to play down in the Spring season. We are in Socal.


I doubt this will be the case for current ECNL players though as club contracts run through July 31 (it’s not like ECNL is only in fall or in spring- the league games are spread across the year). As has always been the case players outside ECNL are likely able to register at any time to join the team if there is space. But for current players they will need to play out their season and then register for the correct age group come tryouts in March-May- otherwise it would shut down the ECNl season as all teams would get disrupted mid league games…


There is a rumor that ECNL will allow inter-club switching for a certain number of current ECNL Q3/Q4 players. That is why I feel there could be a short open window for outsiders to enroll in ECNL after 11/22 to count as existing players.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me realize that some of you are far too invested in club soccer. If you're kid is a multi-sport athlete and club soccer is all you have time for - that's fine. However, if you're focused on soccer, you should realize by U13 that club is just one outlet for your child's development. And he/she should be playing with both skilled younger kids and older kids outside of club through private training, pick up, camps, etc. Mixing up this dynamic is key to your kid's development. I get that club is a big part of the soccer landscape, and it's certainly a much more proficient platform than high school. But, stop putting your eggs in one basket. Also, this triumphant rejoice for being one of the older, bigger kids is fools gold. That might benefit them today in terms of immediate playing time, but the kids who usually end up on top are the ones who had to really scrap, fight, and struggle to earn their keep on a team and out work bigger, stronger kids. So your short term success is likely a long term setback.


Who cares. I want to see my kid be the starter and play. With his academic level, he should secure a D3 school like JHU and on his way to be a doctor. Enjoy watching him to play is all I want.
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me realize that some of you are far too invested in club soccer. If you're kid is a multi-sport athlete and club soccer is all you have time for - that's fine. However, if you're focused on soccer, you should realize by U13 that club is just one outlet for your child's development. And he/she should be playing with both skilled younger kids and older kids outside of club through private training, pick up, camps, etc. Mixing up this dynamic is key to your kid's development. I get that club is a big part of the soccer landscape, and it's certainly a much more proficient platform than high school. But, stop putting your eggs in one basket. Also, this triumphant rejoice for being one of the older, bigger kids is fools gold. That might benefit them today in terms of immediate playing time, but the kids who usually end up on top are the ones who had to really scrap, fight, and struggle to earn their keep on a team and out work bigger, stronger kids. So your short term success is likely a long term setback.


Who cares. I want to see my kid be the starter and play. With his academic level, he should secure a D3 school like JHU and on his way to be a doctor. Enjoy watching him to play is all I want.


lmao ur kid a doctor ok - definitely want to avoid u and him
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me realize that some of you are far too invested in club soccer. If you're kid is a multi-sport athlete and club soccer is all you have time for - that's fine. However, if you're focused on soccer, you should realize by U13 that club is just one outlet for your child's development. And he/she should be playing with both skilled younger kids and older kids outside of club through private training, pick up, camps, etc. Mixing up this dynamic is key to your kid's development. I get that club is a big part of the soccer landscape, and it's certainly a much more proficient platform than high school. But, stop putting your eggs in one basket. Also, this triumphant rejoice for being one of the older, bigger kids is fools gold. That might benefit them today in terms of immediate playing time, but the kids who usually end up on top are the ones who had to really scrap, fight, and struggle to earn their keep on a team and out work bigger, stronger kids. So your short term success is likely a long term setback.


Thanks for letting me know what is fine. What is key to my daughters success. What I should start doing and what I should stop doing. I was just saying that what the world needs is more opinions and viewpoints stated as absolute facts. Thank you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me realize that some of you are far too invested in club soccer. If you're kid is a multi-sport athlete and club soccer is all you have time for - that's fine. However, if you're focused on soccer, you should realize by U13 that club is just one outlet for your child's development. And he/she should be playing with both skilled younger kids and older kids outside of club through private training, pick up, camps, etc. Mixing up this dynamic is key to your kid's development. I get that club is a big part of the soccer landscape, and it's certainly a much more proficient platform than high school. But, stop putting your eggs in one basket. Also, this triumphant rejoice for being one of the older, bigger kids is fools gold. That might benefit them today in terms of immediate playing time, but the kids who usually end up on top are the ones who had to really scrap, fight, and struggle to earn their keep on a team and out work bigger, stronger kids. So your short term success is likely a long term setback.


Who cares. I want to see my kid be the starter and play. With his academic level, he should secure a D3 school like JHU and on his way to be a doctor. Enjoy watching him to play is all I want.


lmao ur kid a doctor ok - definitely want to avoid u and him


We don't talk to peasants like you.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:This thread has made me realize that some of you are far too invested in club soccer. If you're kid is a multi-sport athlete and club soccer is all you have time for - that's fine. However, if you're focused on soccer, you should realize by U13 that club is just one outlet for your child's development. And he/she should be playing with both skilled younger kids and older kids outside of club through private training, pick up, camps, etc. Mixing up this dynamic is key to your kid's development. I get that club is a big part of the soccer landscape, and it's certainly a much more proficient platform than high school. But, stop putting your eggs in one basket. Also, this triumphant rejoice for being one of the older, bigger kids is fools gold. That might benefit them today in terms of immediate playing time, but the kids who usually end up on top are the ones who had to really scrap, fight, and struggle to earn their keep on a team and out work bigger, stronger kids. So your short term success is likely a long term setback.
Basically spend as much cash as possible on fly by night get better schemes through coaches wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Ok.
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Anonymous wrote:
Basically spend as much cash as possible on fly by night get better schemes through coaches wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Ok.

Isn't it interesting that soccer is becoming an elitist sport? Not something I saw coming as a kid. In my neighborhood it was a scrappy sport like it is in Europe. I don't know how to get away from it though. We pay eye watering amounts for my daughters development, I stay up late on threads like this to ensure she's on the best teams and the most nurturing environments for her talents, its crazy. But I don't see a way out. She wouldn't be as good as she is if we hadn't dedicated so many resources. If we left her in AYSO years ago, there's no chance she could compete at the level she does. No answers....just observations. And hope one day we'll find a better system for all our sakes.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Basically spend as much cash as possible on fly by night get better schemes through coaches wanting a bigger piece of the pie. Ok.


Isn't it interesting that soccer is becoming an elitist sport? Not something I saw coming as a kid. In my neighborhood it was a scrappy sport like it is in Europe. I don't know how to get away from it though. We pay eye watering amounts for my daughters development, I stay up late on threads like this to ensure she's on the best teams and the most nurturing environments for her talents, its crazy. But I don't see a way out. She wouldn't be as good as she is if we hadn't dedicated so many resources. If we left her in AYSO years ago, there's no chance she could compete at the level she does. No answers....just observations. And hope one day we'll find a better system for all our sakes.

We live in a pro capitalist society and a land where we believe dreams can come true if you just work hard enough for them. It would be otherwise un-American to micromanage individuals, groups and clubs from trying to make money by selling services to families who would otherwise pay a lot of money for them.

Essentially, we would have to mandate that youth sports could only be run by the State, County or School systems and ensure those we heavily invested in and scrap the private "non-profits" who use all the tax payer funded fields for their clubs. But then, nothing would stop outside coaches and clubs from running skills clinics and lessons..... its a highly layered and complex problem.

But in the end, what is the cost to help your child chase their dreams? It's priceless. I think the only thing we can do is to help each other keep some perspective; spend some money, help your child, but realize, they will be adults soon enough and this will be over. Anecdotally, I do personally know a family with a high net worth (10's of millions) and their daughter does play pro in Europe... she makes a whopping $48k per year. In that sense, I know what it took to get her there, and in no way did the monetary input come close to the output. The current system is slanted to the rich.

Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:https://usclubsoccer.org/registration-player-age-groups/
oooops cart ahead of the horse?
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