Travis and Taylor

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Anonymous wrote:I see nothing but joy and having a fun night out after a ridiculously awesome two weeks for these two. What is the problem with some of you?? They released his mic'ed up conversation with her on the field after the win, and it was nothing but joy. You all are nuts.


This forum seems to attract the weirdest people on DCUM, and that is saying something. Like we get it you’re a dork attracted to fellow dorky looking people, and have bad memories of jocks who probably made fun of you in high school. So now you are determined to hate on this relationship and call it fake. Get help for your issues.


Look, if you’re unfamiliar with PR relationships then I get why this looks real to you. But many a relationship in Hollywood are PR including this one.

Oh, and btw Taylor has made a career out of being the exact person you are trying to mock. So that makes your comment kinda funny.



They aren’t Hollywood and neither needs the PR. It continues to be the x that can’t be solved for. Sometimes the sound of hooves is actually a bunch of horses.


Taylor is very much Hollywood. Are you delusional? She needed the PR after that racist Matty Healy. Ice Spice didn’t have the impact she was hoping for. Travis wants desperately to be famous. After ”dating” Taylor his jersey sales went through the roof, he is now an household name and his podcast has taken off. The NFL wanted the audience she brings in and has been trying to change their image since Kaepernick. Well look, they got it. Super Bowl was the most watched. And in general rating for the chiefs games went up.

Guess what, it all worked. So yeah, they all needed and wanted the PR.


You sound like one of the dismal women from the failed Real Housewives of "Potomac." Neither one of them needed publicity and if you think she did after that loser - you are simply crazy.


You are crazy to think she didn’t. Why do you think she did a collab with Ice Spice immediately after breaking up with Matty Healy? Why do you think she broke up with Matty? Are you dumb, stupid, blind or delusional? Or all 3?


+1, it's crazy to me that people buy all this obviously focus-grouped crap she does as real. It's nuts. Like no, Taylor and Ice Spice do not have an organic friendship. Ice Spice is a 24 year old rapper from the Bronx who was making TikTok's and going to college 2 years ago (which, by the way, makes her better educated than Taylor). These women do not have anything in common. And yet Taylor drags her around and fakes a friendship for the media and fans to keep the Matty Healy stink off her. And of course it is mutually beneficial so Ice is like "okay" but it's all fake.

Is it so crazy to think that someone who would stage a fake friendship with a young rapper to mitigate a PR disaster might also fake other aspects of her "personal" life? It's not.


But go back and look at the timeline, the ice spice Taylor collaboration came out like a day after the those Healy comments came to light. Do you know how long it takes to do a collaboration with Taylor Swift? The paperwork and the lawyering that goes in to a deal like that? it had been in the works for a long time clearly.


Like a day? No.
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Anonymous wrote:How does she go from a very private life with Joe to a very public relationship with Travis? Still reeks of a PR stunt.

I’m sure she’s not over Joe.

I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues.
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Anonymous wrote:I see nothing but joy and having a fun night out after a ridiculously awesome two weeks for these two. What is the problem with some of you?? They released his mic'ed up conversation with her on the field after the win, and it was nothing but joy. You all are nuts.


This forum seems to attract the weirdest people on DCUM, and that is saying something. Like we get it you’re a dork attracted to fellow dorky looking people, and have bad memories of jocks who probably made fun of you in high school. So now you are determined to hate on this relationship and call it fake. Get help for your issues.


Look, if you’re unfamiliar with PR relationships then I get why this looks real to you. But many a relationship in Hollywood are PR including this one.

Oh, and btw Taylor has made a career out of being the exact person you are trying to mock. So that makes your comment kinda funny.



They aren’t Hollywood and neither needs the PR. It continues to be the x that can’t be solved for. Sometimes the sound of hooves is actually a bunch of horses.


Taylor is very much Hollywood. Are you delusional? She needed the PR after that racist Matty Healy. Ice Spice didn’t have the impact she was hoping for. Travis wants desperately to be famous. After ”dating” Taylor his jersey sales went through the roof, he is now an household name and his podcast has taken off. The NFL wanted the audience she brings in and has been trying to change their image since Kaepernick. Well look, they got it. Super Bowl was the most watched. And in general rating for the chiefs games went up.

Guess what, it all worked. So yeah, they all needed and wanted the PR.


You sound like one of the dismal women from the failed Real Housewives of "Potomac." Neither one of them needed publicity and if you think she did after that loser - you are simply crazy.


You are crazy to think she didn’t. Why do you think she did a collab with Ice Spice immediately after breaking up with Matty Healy? Why do you think she broke up with Matty? Are you dumb, stupid, blind or delusional? Or all 3?


+1, it's crazy to me that people buy all this obviously focus-grouped crap she does as real. It's nuts. Like no, Taylor and Ice Spice do not have an organic friendship. Ice Spice is a 24 year old rapper from the Bronx who was making TikTok's and going to college 2 years ago (which, by the way, makes her better educated than Taylor). These women do not have anything in common. And yet Taylor drags her around and fakes a friendship for the media and fans to keep the Matty Healy stink off her. And of course it is mutually beneficial so Ice is like "okay" but it's all fake.

Is it so crazy to think that someone who would stage a fake friendship with a young rapper to mitigate a PR disaster might also fake other aspects of her "personal" life? It's not.


But go back and look at the timeline, the ice spice Taylor collaboration came out like a day after the those Healy comments came to light. Do you know how long it takes to do a collaboration with Taylor Swift? The paperwork and the lawyering that goes in to a deal like that? it had been in the works for a long time clearly.


Like a day? No.

+100

If you’re someone like ice spice you’re going to move as quickly as humanly possible to get the “deal” done and will probably agree to whatever terms needed.
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Anonymous wrote:Travis and Taylor were out partying with Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox, double date.


This makes it feel very real. Seeing moments like this. They should publish more of this stuff.


Great they are having fun but I think it feels even more fake because Machine Gun Kelly and Megan Fox are also the most desperate for attention couple.


Shhhh…don’t say that bc Travis and Taylor aren’t Hollywood.


Travis and Machine Gun Kelly grew up in Cleveland together and have been friends since they were 14 years old. So…

Wild how they both became famous!
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Anonymous wrote:Travis and his wealth over the years he has changed for sure, and I forgot how handsome he was:
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Anonymous wrote:Harry Styles >>>>>>>>> Matty Healy


Well yeah but no way Harry would get back together with Taylor at this point.

Taylor only dates men on their way up because otherwise it's not worth it to them. The drama, the scrutiny -- why would an established artist and celebrity want to involve themselves in that? Only to break up and then be the subject of endless online harassment from her fans? No thank you.

She exclusively dates guys who need the publicity and exposure at this point. I don't think she'll ever date a true equal, in terms of success, again.

Does such an equal even exist?
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Anonymous wrote:I see nothing but joy and having a fun night out after a ridiculously awesome two weeks for these two. What is the problem with some of you?? They released his mic'ed up conversation with her on the field after the win, and it was nothing but joy. You all are nuts.


This forum seems to attract the weirdest people on DCUM, and that is saying something. Like we get it you’re a dork attracted to fellow dorky looking people, and have bad memories of jocks who probably made fun of you in high school. So now you are determined to hate on this relationship and call it fake. Get help for your issues.


Look, if you’re unfamiliar with PR relationships then I get why this looks real to you. But many a relationship in Hollywood are PR including this one.

Oh, and btw Taylor has made a career out of being the exact person you are trying to mock. So that makes your comment kinda funny.



They aren’t Hollywood and neither needs the PR. It continues to be the x that can’t be solved for. Sometimes the sound of hooves is actually a bunch of horses.


Taylor is very much Hollywood. Are you delusional? She needed the PR after that racist Matty Healy. Ice Spice didn’t have the impact she was hoping for. Travis wants desperately to be famous. After ”dating” Taylor his jersey sales went through the roof, he is now an household name and his podcast has taken off. The NFL wanted the audience she brings in and has been trying to change their image since Kaepernick. Well look, they got it. Super Bowl was the most watched. And in general rating for the chiefs games went up.

Guess what, it all worked. So yeah, they all needed and wanted the PR.


You sound like one of the dismal women from the failed Real Housewives of "Potomac." Neither one of them needed publicity and if you think she did after that loser - you are simply crazy.


You are crazy to think she didn’t. Why do you think she did a collab with Ice Spice immediately after breaking up with Matty Healy? Why do you think she broke up with Matty? Are you dumb, stupid, blind or delusional? Or all 3?


+1, it's crazy to me that people buy all this obviously focus-grouped crap she does as real. It's nuts. Like no, Taylor and Ice Spice do not have an organic friendship. Ice Spice is a 24 year old rapper from the Bronx who was making TikTok's and going to college 2 years ago (which, by the way, makes her better educated than Taylor). These women do not have anything in common. And yet Taylor drags her around and fakes a friendship for the media and fans to keep the Matty Healy stink off her. And of course it is mutually beneficial so Ice is like "okay" but it's all fake.

Is it so crazy to think that someone who would stage a fake friendship with a young rapper to mitigate a PR disaster might also fake other aspects of her "personal" life? It's not.


But go back and look at the timeline, the ice spice Taylor collaboration came out like a day after the those Healy comments came to light. Do you know how long it takes to do a collaboration with Taylor Swift? The paperwork and the lawyering that goes in to a deal like that? it had been in the works for a long time clearly.

Wouldn’t take that long because they aren’t equals. She’s not doing a song with Beyonce but basically a nobody. What’s to negotiate? Also this is her MO you remember when she was besties with Serayah for a day after people said her girl squad was too white? She didn’t even know how to spell her name.
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Anonymous wrote:Harry Styles >>>>>>>>> Matty Healy


Well yeah but no way Harry would get back together with Taylor at this point.

Taylor only dates men on their way up because otherwise it's not worth it to them. The drama, the scrutiny -- why would an established artist and celebrity want to involve themselves in that? Only to break up and then be the subject of endless online harassment from her fans? No thank you.

She exclusively dates guys who need the publicity and exposure at this point. I don't think she'll ever date a true equal, in terms of success, again.

Does such an equal even exist?


Travis in his industry.
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Anonymous wrote:How does she go from a very private life with Joe to a very public relationship with Travis? Still reeks of a PR stunt.

I’m sure she’s not over Joe.

I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues.


People never talk about the $$$ he must have made/be making as William Bowery on her pandemic albums. He benefited handsomely from that relationship. And yet he gets to be one that wanted to stay out of the spotlight-almost obsessively. Like don’t get into a relationship with the literal most famous pop star in the world if you don’t want to have the spotlight on you?

He was so obsessively anti-spotlight, that it almost seems like a control thing over her. Something that would stress her out that she had to manage and twist herself into a pretzel to accommodate. I don’t know… Maybe she’s not over him but I don’t think he was great for her.

Big downside of fame is you never really know your true friends. I was just reading Dave Grohl’s memoir, which is so good, and he talked about the joy of becoming a father in part because his baby did not know who he was, and just loved him unconditionally, and he never really had that since he got so big so young.

It’s something that us mere mortals don’t have to contend with.
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Anonymous wrote:I see nothing but joy and having a fun night out after a ridiculously awesome two weeks for these two. What is the problem with some of you?? They released his mic'ed up conversation with her on the field after the win, and it was nothing but joy. You all are nuts.


This forum seems to attract the weirdest people on DCUM, and that is saying something. Like we get it you’re a dork attracted to fellow dorky looking people, and have bad memories of jocks who probably made fun of you in high school. So now you are determined to hate on this relationship and call it fake. Get help for your issues.


Look, if you’re unfamiliar with PR relationships then I get why this looks real to you. But many a relationship in Hollywood are PR including this one.

Oh, and btw Taylor has made a career out of being the exact person you are trying to mock. So that makes your comment kinda funny.



They aren’t Hollywood and neither needs the PR. It continues to be the x that can’t be solved for. Sometimes the sound of hooves is actually a bunch of horses.


Taylor is very much Hollywood. Are you delusional? She needed the PR after that racist Matty Healy. Ice Spice didn’t have the impact she was hoping for. Travis wants desperately to be famous. After ”dating” Taylor his jersey sales went through the roof, he is now an household name and his podcast has taken off. The NFL wanted the audience she brings in and has been trying to change their image since Kaepernick. Well look, they got it. Super Bowl was the most watched. And in general rating for the chiefs games went up.

Guess what, it all worked. So yeah, they all needed and wanted the PR.


You sound like one of the dismal women from the failed Real Housewives of "Potomac." Neither one of them needed publicity and if you think she did after that loser - you are simply crazy.


You are crazy to think she didn’t. Why do you think she did a collab with Ice Spice immediately after breaking up with Matty Healy? Why do you think she broke up with Matty? Are you dumb, stupid, blind or delusional? Or all 3?


+1, it's crazy to me that people buy all this obviously focus-grouped crap she does as real. It's nuts. Like no, Taylor and Ice Spice do not have an organic friendship. Ice Spice is a 24 year old rapper from the Bronx who was making TikTok's and going to college 2 years ago (which, by the way, makes her better educated than Taylor). These women do not have anything in common. And yet Taylor drags her around and fakes a friendship for the media and fans to keep the Matty Healy stink off her. And of course it is mutually beneficial so Ice is like "okay" but it's all fake.

Is it so crazy to think that someone who would stage a fake friendship with a young rapper to mitigate a PR disaster might also fake other aspects of her "personal" life? It's not.


But go back and look at the timeline, the ice spice Taylor collaboration came out like a day after the those Healy comments came to light. Do you know how long it takes to do a collaboration with Taylor Swift? The paperwork and the lawyering that goes in to a deal like that? it had been in the works for a long time clearly.


Like a day? No.

+100

If you’re someone like ice spice you’re going to move as quickly as humanly possible to get the “deal” done and will probably agree to whatever terms needed.


Also, since it was a re-mix, it's likely they had Ice record it before they inked the deal, to see if they liked it. Ice could go into the studio the day Taylor's people called, lay tracks, then everyone listens/approves, then you sign. Also, remember this was a re-mix of a previously released song on a special edition of the album. Sure, it's Taylor so sales of the deluxe edition are going to be good, but Ice likely never stood to make that much money from this collaboration. It's different than, for instance, the announced collaborations on her upcoming album, where those artists will have credit on the original release, plus probably co-writing credits as well. The deal with Ice didn't represent nearly as much cash, and Ice was still so new at the time that I doubt they had to offer her much in terms of royalties. I bet that deal took a single afternoon.

But to be honest, it's not the collab that I find off-putting. I remember at the time thinking it was classy of Taylor to handle it that way, and even to bring Ice out on tour. It shows she doesn't agree with Healy's statements/behavior and it helps a young artist in the process. A win-win.

Where I get the ick is watching Taylor continue to trot out Ice as a prop, and potentially to keep using her for cover as she gears up to release an album that likely will have some references to Healy. Plus I think Taylor views it as important to have a "black friend" in her crew from a less privileged background that Zoe Kravitz. It all feels focus-grouped and not authentic at all. I think she's craven, and probably can't even separate her PR motivations from genuine feelings for people at this point. It's gross to me.
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Anonymous wrote:I see nothing but joy and having a fun night out after a ridiculously awesome two weeks for these two. What is the problem with some of you?? They released his mic'ed up conversation with her on the field after the win, and it was nothing but joy. You all are nuts.


This forum seems to attract the weirdest people on DCUM, and that is saying something. Like we get it you’re a dork attracted to fellow dorky looking people, and have bad memories of jocks who probably made fun of you in high school. So now you are determined to hate on this relationship and call it fake. Get help for your issues.


Look, if you’re unfamiliar with PR relationships then I get why this looks real to you. But many a relationship in Hollywood are PR including this one.

Oh, and btw Taylor has made a career out of being the exact person you are trying to mock. So that makes your comment kinda funny.



They aren’t Hollywood and neither needs the PR. It continues to be the x that can’t be solved for. Sometimes the sound of hooves is actually a bunch of horses.


Taylor is very much Hollywood. Are you delusional? She needed the PR after that racist Matty Healy. Ice Spice didn’t have the impact she was hoping for. Travis wants desperately to be famous. After ”dating” Taylor his jersey sales went through the roof, he is now an household name and his podcast has taken off. The NFL wanted the audience she brings in and has been trying to change their image since Kaepernick. Well look, they got it. Super Bowl was the most watched. And in general rating for the chiefs games went up.

Guess what, it all worked. So yeah, they all needed and wanted the PR.


You sound like one of the dismal women from the failed Real Housewives of "Potomac." Neither one of them needed publicity and if you think she did after that loser - you are simply crazy.


You are crazy to think she didn’t. Why do you think she did a collab with Ice Spice immediately after breaking up with Matty Healy? Why do you think she broke up with Matty? Are you dumb, stupid, blind or delusional? Or all 3?


+1, it's crazy to me that people buy all this obviously focus-grouped crap she does as real. It's nuts. Like no, Taylor and Ice Spice do not have an organic friendship. Ice Spice is a 24 year old rapper from the Bronx who was making TikTok's and going to college 2 years ago (which, by the way, makes her better educated than Taylor). These women do not have anything in common. And yet Taylor drags her around and fakes a friendship for the media and fans to keep the Matty Healy stink off her. And of course it is mutually beneficial so Ice is like "okay" but it's all fake.

Is it so crazy to think that someone who would stage a fake friendship with a young rapper to mitigate a PR disaster might also fake other aspects of her "personal" life? It's not.


But go back and look at the timeline, the ice spice Taylor collaboration came out like a day after the those Healy comments came to light. Do you know how long it takes to do a collaboration with Taylor Swift? The paperwork and the lawyering that goes in to a deal like that? it had been in the works for a long time clearly.


Like a day? No.

+100

If you’re someone like ice spice you’re going to move as quickly as humanly possible to get the “deal” done and will probably agree to whatever terms needed.


Also, since it was a re-mix, it's likely they had Ice record it before they inked the deal, to see if they liked it. Ice could go into the studio the day Taylor's people called, lay tracks, then everyone listens/approves, then you sign. Also, remember this was a re-mix of a previously released song on a special edition of the album. Sure, it's Taylor so sales of the deluxe edition are going to be good, but Ice likely never stood to make that much money from this collaboration. It's different than, for instance, the announced collaborations on her upcoming album, where those artists will have credit on the original release, plus probably co-writing credits as well. The deal with Ice didn't represent nearly as much cash, and Ice was still so new at the time that I doubt they had to offer her much in terms of royalties. I bet that deal took a single afternoon.

But to be honest, it's not the collab that I find off-putting. I remember at the time thinking it was classy of Taylor to handle it that way, and even to bring Ice out on tour. It shows she doesn't agree with Healy's statements/behavior and it helps a young artist in the process. A win-win.

Where I get the ick is watching Taylor continue to trot out Ice as a prop, and potentially to keep using her for cover as she gears up to release an album that likely will have some references to Healy. Plus I think Taylor views it as important to have a "black friend" in her crew from a less privileged background that Zoe Kravitz. It all feels focus-grouped and not authentic at all. I think she's craven, and probably can't even separate her PR motivations from genuine feelings for people at this point. It's gross to me.


That is exactly how it came off to me as well, Ice Spice in the box looking lonely, Taylor ignoring her and sticking to her blond pals.
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Anonymous wrote:How does she go from a very private life with Joe to a very public relationship with Travis? Still reeks of a PR stunt.

I’m sure she’s not over Joe.

I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues.


People never talk about the $$$ he must have made/be making as William Bowery on her pandemic albums. He benefited handsomely from that relationship. And yet he gets to be one that wanted to stay out of the spotlight-almost obsessively. Like don’t get into a relationship with the literal most famous pop star in the world if you don’t want to have the spotlight on you?

He was so obsessively anti-spotlight, that it almost seems like a control thing over her. Something that would stress her out that she had to manage and twist herself into a pretzel to accommodate. I don’t know… Maybe she’s not over him but I don’t think he was great for her.


Big downside of fame is you never really know your true friends. I was just reading Dave Grohl’s memoir, which is so good, and he talked about the joy of becoming a father in part because his baby did not know who he was, and just loved him unconditionally, and he never really had that since he got so big so young.

It’s something that us mere mortals don’t have to contend with.


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Anonymous wrote:How does she go from a very private life with Joe to a very public relationship with Travis? Still reeks of a PR stunt.

I’m sure she’s not over Joe.

I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues.


People never talk about the $$$ he must have made/be making as William Bowery on her pandemic albums. He benefited handsomely from that relationship. And yet he gets to be one that wanted to stay out of the spotlight-almost obsessively. Like don’t get into a relationship with the literal most famous pop star in the world if you don’t want to have the spotlight on you?

He was so obsessively anti-spotlight, that it almost seems like a control thing over her. Something that would stress her out that she had to manage and twist herself into a pretzel to accommodate. I don’t know… Maybe she’s not over him but I don’t think he was great for her.

Big downside of fame is you never really know your true friends. I was just reading Dave Grohl’s memoir, which is so good, and he talked about the joy of becoming a father in part because his baby did not know who he was, and just loved him unconditionally, and he never really had that since he got so big so young.

It’s something that us mere mortals don’t have to contend with.


I don't get this. Celebrity marriages and relationships almost always work best with a more private spouse who stays back and supports. This was it for her. You usually can't have two attention hog self-centered big personalities in a relationship.
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Anonymous wrote:How does she go from a very private life with Joe to a very public relationship with Travis? Still reeks of a PR stunt.

I’m sure she’s not over Joe.

I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues.


People never talk about the $$$ he must have made/be making as William Bowery on her pandemic albums. He benefited handsomely from that relationship. And yet he gets to be one that wanted to stay out of the spotlight-almost obsessively. Like don’t get into a relationship with the literal most famous pop star in the world if you don’t want to have the spotlight on you?

He was so obsessively anti-spotlight, that it almost seems like a control thing over her. Something that would stress her out that she had to manage and twist herself into a pretzel to accommodate. I don’t know… Maybe she’s not over him but I don’t think he was great for her.

Big downside of fame is you never really know your true friends. I was just reading Dave Grohl’s memoir, which is so good, and he talked about the joy of becoming a father in part because his baby did not know who he was, and just loved him unconditionally, and he never really had that since he got so big so young.

It’s something that us mere mortals don’t have to contend with.


I don't know, you're assuming a lot of details about the relationship with Joe the we simply cannot know. Yes he's more press shy. Taking the leap that he was "controlling" her by simply choosing not to be super public is weird though. Maybe, maybe not. It might have felt like control to her but that's different than someone actually having power over you.

Also, have you had a baby? Because I find that Dave Grohl anecdote totally relatable and I'm a total nobody. The truth is that most relationships between adults are pretty shallow and conditional. It might actually be Dave not understanding in that situation that most people don't experience unconditional love from friends or loved ones, and that was not the result of his fame but just part of being human. I think sometimes famous people get very confused about love because they experience adoration of fans, and that's addictive but ultimately shallow, so they might feel let down a lot because it feels like they should feel good from all that adoration and over time it doesn't feel that good. But I also think many regular people go through that exact process in their own small lives, discovering that friendships fade, your neighbors and colleagues don't actually care about you very much, even your own family can be a let down.

This is pretty much why people get married and have kids.
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So let me see if I have this straight. For those who are still going on about this being a contracted fake relationship, all in the name of (you can pick your favorite here): PR, $$$, bringing more fans to the NFL, paving the way for ownership of an NFL team, forcing people to forget a bad rebound relationship, an election year political conspiracy, hiding their true sexuality, etc., etc., are you seriously suggesting that the two of them sat down and agreed to a contract? If so, here would have had to have been its terms: For the length of this “contract” you will, on your own time and dollar, attend almost every football game he plays in, even if it means flying half way around the world to do so. You will hold hands, kiss, hug, drape yourself over each other in public every chance you get, and become intimate with each other in private. Oh and be sure to act all lovey-dovey even in places where there are no cameras, like private rooms in restaurants, in case someone dares to give an eyewitness account or whips out a cell phone. You will involve your entire families and close friends to go along with the charade. After all who wouldn’t gladly give up their time and be willing to support such an important cause. You will spend every major holiday together. You will forego any chance of meeting or dating anyone else during this time. You will act like you are in love, so much so that talk of a possible engagement starts to take over the airwaves.

So all of this is happening in the name of a contracted fake relationship……seriously???

As for PR, of course there is some of that involved. There’s no way it can’t be when people of their stature become involved, but it comes as a result of the relationship, not as the cause of it.

I don’t pretend to know where this relationship will go in the long run. Maybe it goes the distance, maybe it doesn’t. All I know is what I see right now with my own eyes. I see two people who at this moment light up when they see each other, are very much into each other, in love, and having the time of their lives together. And I say good for them. And for us for however long we get to see it.
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