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I’m sure she’s not over Joe. I think out of all the men Taylor has dated Joe is the only guy that is marriage material. Travis is physically too large and mentally too slow/unstable. That combined with Taylor’s height and mental issues would ensure their kids would turnout to be giants with behavioral issues. |
+100 If you’re someone like ice spice you’re going to move as quickly as humanly possible to get the “deal” done and will probably agree to whatever terms needed. |
Wild how they both became famous! |
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Does such an equal even exist? |
Wouldn’t take that long because they aren’t equals. She’s not doing a song with Beyonce but basically a nobody. What’s to negotiate? Also this is her MO you remember when she was besties with Serayah for a day after people said her girl squad was too white? She didn’t even know how to spell her name. |
Travis in his industry. |
People never talk about the $$$ he must have made/be making as William Bowery on her pandemic albums. He benefited handsomely from that relationship. And yet he gets to be one that wanted to stay out of the spotlight-almost obsessively. Like don’t get into a relationship with the literal most famous pop star in the world if you don’t want to have the spotlight on you? He was so obsessively anti-spotlight, that it almost seems like a control thing over her. Something that would stress her out that she had to manage and twist herself into a pretzel to accommodate. I don’t know… Maybe she’s not over him but I don’t think he was great for her. Big downside of fame is you never really know your true friends. I was just reading Dave Grohl’s memoir, which is so good, and he talked about the joy of becoming a father in part because his baby did not know who he was, and just loved him unconditionally, and he never really had that since he got so big so young. It’s something that us mere mortals don’t have to contend with. |
Also, since it was a re-mix, it's likely they had Ice record it before they inked the deal, to see if they liked it. Ice could go into the studio the day Taylor's people called, lay tracks, then everyone listens/approves, then you sign. Also, remember this was a re-mix of a previously released song on a special edition of the album. Sure, it's Taylor so sales of the deluxe edition are going to be good, but Ice likely never stood to make that much money from this collaboration. It's different than, for instance, the announced collaborations on her upcoming album, where those artists will have credit on the original release, plus probably co-writing credits as well. The deal with Ice didn't represent nearly as much cash, and Ice was still so new at the time that I doubt they had to offer her much in terms of royalties. I bet that deal took a single afternoon. But to be honest, it's not the collab that I find off-putting. I remember at the time thinking it was classy of Taylor to handle it that way, and even to bring Ice out on tour. It shows she doesn't agree with Healy's statements/behavior and it helps a young artist in the process. A win-win. Where I get the ick is watching Taylor continue to trot out Ice as a prop, and potentially to keep using her for cover as she gears up to release an album that likely will have some references to Healy. Plus I think Taylor views it as important to have a "black friend" in her crew from a less privileged background that Zoe Kravitz. It all feels focus-grouped and not authentic at all. I think she's craven, and probably can't even separate her PR motivations from genuine feelings for people at this point. It's gross to me. |
That is exactly how it came off to me as well, Ice Spice in the box looking lonely, Taylor ignoring her and sticking to her blond pals. |
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I don't get this. Celebrity marriages and relationships almost always work best with a more private spouse who stays back and supports. This was it for her. You usually can't have two attention hog self-centered big personalities in a relationship. |
I don't know, you're assuming a lot of details about the relationship with Joe the we simply cannot know. Yes he's more press shy. Taking the leap that he was "controlling" her by simply choosing not to be super public is weird though. Maybe, maybe not. It might have felt like control to her but that's different than someone actually having power over you. Also, have you had a baby? Because I find that Dave Grohl anecdote totally relatable and I'm a total nobody. The truth is that most relationships between adults are pretty shallow and conditional. It might actually be Dave not understanding in that situation that most people don't experience unconditional love from friends or loved ones, and that was not the result of his fame but just part of being human. I think sometimes famous people get very confused about love because they experience adoration of fans, and that's addictive but ultimately shallow, so they might feel let down a lot because it feels like they should feel good from all that adoration and over time it doesn't feel that good. But I also think many regular people go through that exact process in their own small lives, discovering that friendships fade, your neighbors and colleagues don't actually care about you very much, even your own family can be a let down. This is pretty much why people get married and have kids. |
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So let me see if I have this straight. For those who are still going on about this being a contracted fake relationship, all in the name of (you can pick your favorite here): PR, $$$, bringing more fans to the NFL, paving the way for ownership of an NFL team, forcing people to forget a bad rebound relationship, an election year political conspiracy, hiding their true sexuality, etc., etc., are you seriously suggesting that the two of them sat down and agreed to a contract? If so, here would have had to have been its terms: For the length of this “contract” you will, on your own time and dollar, attend almost every football game he plays in, even if it means flying half way around the world to do so. You will hold hands, kiss, hug, drape yourself over each other in public every chance you get, and become intimate with each other in private. Oh and be sure to act all lovey-dovey even in places where there are no cameras, like private rooms in restaurants, in case someone dares to give an eyewitness account or whips out a cell phone. You will involve your entire families and close friends to go along with the charade. After all who wouldn’t gladly give up their time and be willing to support such an important cause. You will spend every major holiday together. You will forego any chance of meeting or dating anyone else during this time. You will act like you are in love, so much so that talk of a possible engagement starts to take over the airwaves.
So all of this is happening in the name of a contracted fake relationship……seriously??? As for PR, of course there is some of that involved. There’s no way it can’t be when people of their stature become involved, but it comes as a result of the relationship, not as the cause of it. I don’t pretend to know where this relationship will go in the long run. Maybe it goes the distance, maybe it doesn’t. All I know is what I see right now with my own eyes. I see two people who at this moment light up when they see each other, are very much into each other, in love, and having the time of their lives together. And I say good for them. And for us for however long we get to see it. |