Initial boundary options for Woodward study area are up

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

Yes, I assumed the regional would be like the DCC. It would be helpful if they'd let us know so we can pull our youngest. If they do what they say, Einstein is already stripped down and this is going to make Einstein worse vs. better. The lack of course offerings is terrible. Most choose their home school, but the lottery process is nice and you can try to COSA, which is what we did.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.

Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.

Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.

Not when, institutionally, some have needs met and others don't.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.

Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.

It doesn't have to be an either/or situation, MCPS staff.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

I agree. I think Einstein will do better without an IN program.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

I agree. I think Einstein will do better without an IN program.

Oops that should read that it will do better without an IB program.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.

Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.

I agree. This complaint is really blown out of proportion. I have a child in a great college now majoring in a STEM field who went to Einstein. Took IB science classes, took AP calc and stats, and was well prepared. There’s a lot of catastrophizing here because a high school doesn’t offer multivariable calculus. That’s a college course, and they will take it in college. Their futures won’t be ruined.

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

A hypothetical fear has given you pause. The reality is that IB physics, chem, and bio are very advanced classes, just not the AP brand.

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But AP helps financially - 2 of our 3 kids have each graduated in 3 years rather than 4, saving us a small fortune in expenses. IB may be better in some ways, but it can't save $180,000k (2 years of college at full-pay, $90k each).

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.

Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.

Lack of AP science, math past Calc BC (they have stat's but not MVC or Linear Algebra), lack of engineering and CS classes, no AP music theory, and others. More kids would probably take it if offered it. The school actively discourages kids from taking a lot of AP classes and insists kids take AB then BC so they don't have to offer MVC.

Its not about having all needs met, but they don't even have the basics. If you compare it to other schools the course offerings are significantly less.

Its absolutely reasonable and if you don't think its reasonable, why is it ok the W schools have a huge number of offerings and other schools don't? Shouldn't we not have them at any school except the specialized programs?

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Anonymous wrote:Maybe Einstein will do better without the IB program - it can have more APs.

I think they would but the huge draw is for music and theater and if they move both of those programs that leaves nothing specialized except the vac.

Also, any high school has the option to offer AP or IB courses according to the program study analysis team’s presentations. So I don’t see anything changing about Einstein IB despite less than 10% of the students getting IB diplomas.

Where are you seeing that in the program study? It just looks like they have to have AP or IB courses, but not both. I can’t imagine central office will agree to pay for more IB programs (beyond the 1/regions they have already committed to).

Einstein only has IB Science classes, not AP. So they are meeting the minimum for advanced students according to the program analysis

Yes, but they could retire the IB program and convert those classes to AP. And that is likely to happen -- Einstein's outcomes are not good for IB.

MCPS is not going to pay for IB certification and the IB coordinator at any school -- most likely it will be 1/region and that's it.

DP. Honestly I bet many would be ok with that. IB is actively sought out by a relatively small number of families compared to the district as a whole. My kids aren't HS age yet but for the moment our home school is Einstein and the lack of AP classes has given me pause, because my oldest is more inclined towards STEM. I've otherwise heard positive feedback about Einstein, so I would welcome this change, especially if the choice process is going away.

Last few years it’s gone down hill. Go to Wheaton or Blair for stem. Principal is not strong.

In the new model, everyone will go to their home school (according to the new boundaries), except for the relatively few admitted to a regional program. There will not be the choice process we have currently in the DCC/NEC.

That’s going to suck and families will bail.

Why? WHat school were you hoping to get into through the choice process? It's not like you can go anywhere you want, most students end up at their home school anyway.

DP - I know plenty of kids who didn't go to their home school. I don't know that families will bail - plenty of us in the DCC are happy with our local schools, even if we also appreciated the choice process.

The issue is lack of STEM offerings at schools like Einstein. Not unhappy but its not meeting some of the kids needs.

It's the lack of AP science classes in particular, correct? They have AP math. I don't think advanced technology and engineering courses are a reasonable expectation for public high schools. Yes, I know MCPS has offered them through special programs.

Not all kids are going to have their every academic need met in public school. That's fine. I'd rather MCPS improve their ability to meet more needs of more kids than have these super specialized programs that meet almost all needs of very few kids.

Lack of AP science, math past Calc BC (they have stat's but not MVC or Linear Algebra), lack of engineering and CS classes, no AP music theory, and others. More kids would probably take it if offered it. The school actively discourages kids from taking a lot of AP classes and insists kids take AB then BC so they don't have to offer MVC.

Its not about having all needs met, but they don't even have the basics. If you compare it to other schools the course offerings are significantly less.

Its absolutely reasonable and if you don't think its reasonable, why is it ok the W schools have a huge number of offerings and other schools don't? Shouldn't we not have them at any school except the specialized programs?

AP music theory is among “the basics” for public high school? Engineering? Linear Algebra?

I *don’t* think the W schools should have a ton of advanced offerings, FWIW. It’s not okay. Ideally, all schools across MCPS would have comparable offerings, which I see as the point of the proposed reorganization.

I’m also not MCPS staff, as someone else accused me of being.

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Anonymous wrote:But AP helps financially - 2 of our 3 kids have each graduated in 3 years rather than 4, saving us a small fortune in expenses. IB may be better in some ways, but it can't save $180,000k (2 years of college at full-pay, $90k each).

This. Not everyone wants to do this but taking APs knocked off an entire year of undergrad off for our two DCs as well.