Guiliani, Trump, and Ukraine

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Anonymous wrote:Bottom line, the whole Hunter Biden thing is Russian propaganda. There is no "there" there and it is being pushed and amplified by individuals hostile to the United States.

The truly sad and frightening part of this is that it includes the President of the United States and his associates.


Features, not includes.

I disagree.


You disagree that the president is blowing Russian propaganda? Maybe look at how many of his twitter followers are bots managed by the Russian digital mills. Maybe look at how psy-ops has worked in other countries - it is the authoritarian playbook to a tee. Discredit the media, tell lies, flood the zone with chaos, while the agenda is being carried out in the background.
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https://twitter.com/LincolnsBible/status/1182735482951630848

So Fox has cropped this picture, take a look at the woman in the mirror.

No less than Victoria Toensing, of the DiGeneova husband and wife team that represent Firtash and appear on Fox all the time spinning conspiracy theories.

Hmmmm
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Hardly.

There are so many cross connections between Firtash and the Trump inner circle, it is virtually impossible not to implicate just about everyone in the "inner circle" just based on what we know publicly. Even the EU Ambassador is going to testify, because he knows the gig is up and wants to minimize his exposure to this.

Not even GOP senators are defending this. How can they? They all took money from these people.



Dream on.


Dream on?

Did you not see the news yesterday about the two people arrested and how they funneled hundreds f thousands into GOP coffers?
Do you not remember GOP Senators spending July 4th in Moscow?
Do you not remember the NRA and Butina and millions of dollars going into the GOP including McConnell's PAC?

Seriously, we can have an honest debate on the merits, but if you are just going to ignore facts and make pithy statements, then a conversation cannot be had.


I see a lot of blown about charges and accusations. I don't see much (if any) proof.


Rudy literally implicated the President. But you do you.
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GOP Senator: Firtash is an agent of the Kremlin

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1013661

So Toensig, DiGenova and Rudy are all on Firtash's payroll to help Donald Trump manufacture dirt on Hunter Biden.

Donald uses congressionally authorized monies to shake down the Ukranians, who are fully exposed to the Russians to their east.

In the time since the Whistleblower report came out, the Ukranians mysteriously ceded two provinces to Russia, exposing an ally to more danger from Putin.

It's a pretty simply story, there is no "attorney-client" when crimes are being committed, and even if Rudy thinks he is acting on behalf of Trump, all that does it implicate Trump.

Barr, Pompeo, Pence, Perry and Mulvaney are all in on it.
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With all this coming out, and so fast, makes me REALLY disappointed in Mueller. Bannon was correct. Mueller is a “good soldier.” Wasn’t going to go outside his lane even when he KNEW all the illegal going ons. -Yovanovitc has bigger balls than him.
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Anonymous wrote:With all this coming out, and so fast, makes me REALLY disappointed in Mueller. Bannon was correct. Mueller is a “good soldier.” Wasn’t going to go outside his lane even when he KNEW all the illegal going ons. -Yovanovitc has bigger balls than him.


Mueller clearly wasn’t in top form, due to age, so...
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Anonymous wrote:With all this coming out, and so fast, makes me REALLY disappointed in Mueller. Bannon was correct. Mueller is a “good soldier.” Wasn’t going to go outside his lane even when he KNEW all the illegal going ons. -Yovanovitc has bigger balls than him.


Mueller got Manafort, and all those Russian trolls. He also put the teeth back in FARA, which is what these new charges are.

This stuff is post-election, and Mueller was focused on events before and soon after the election.
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Anonymous wrote:With all this coming out, and so fast, makes me REALLY disappointed in Mueller. Bannon was correct. Mueller is a “good soldier.” Wasn’t going to go outside his lane even when he KNEW all the illegal going ons. -Yovanovitc has bigger balls than him.


Mueller got Manafort, and all those Russian trolls. He also put the teeth back in FARA, which is what these new charges are.

This stuff is post-election, and Mueller was focused on events before and soon after the election.


It’s not post election, it’s all tied together. Mueller spun off cases that got squashed. My issue is when he saw Barr squashing them he needed to speak up.
Brought a Boy Scout to a wrestling match.
At some point people need to STOP thinking of playing by the rules and speak up.
I’m so disgusted.
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"they tell me WE have nothing to do with it" -- Trump response to the arrests.

I've wondered before--is Trump surrounded by imaginary friends?
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Anonymous wrote:"they tell me WE have nothing to do with it" -- Trump response to the arrests.

I've wondered before--is Trump surrounded by imaginary friends?


All of the smart people have quit or been fired. All that's left are idiots.
Anonymous
More on the Firtas connections with Giuliani and Toensing and DeGenova
https://www.google.com/amp/s/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN1WQ2H5
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https://thehill.com/hilltv/rising/433224-giuliani-attacks-davis-for-representing-indicted-Russian-figure

:wow:

So here is Rudy, criticizing Lanny Davis for representing Firtash. Uh, Rudy gets PAID by Firtash.

"He is considered to be one of the close associates of [Semion] Mogilevich, who is the head of Russian organized crime, who is Putin's best friend. Lanny Davis has represented him for four or five years. If the newspapers are correct, he gets $80,000 a month from this guy who's considered to be one of the high-level, Russian organized crime members or associates," Giuliani said.
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Anonymous wrote:With all this coming out, and so fast, makes me REALLY disappointed in Mueller. Bannon was correct. Mueller is a “good soldier.” Wasn’t going to go outside his lane even when he KNEW all the illegal going ons. -Yovanovitc has bigger balls than him.


Mueller got Manafort, and all those Russian trolls. He also put the teeth back in FARA, which is what these new charges are.

This stuff is post-election, and Mueller was focused on events before and soon after the election.


Manafort who is still directing crimes from jail? What about all those small fish Mueller gave immunity to to catch... who?
Flynn and Roger Stone are still walking around free. And don’t get me started on Jared. No one has REALLY been held accountable.
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Anonymous wrote:"they tell me WE have nothing to do with it" -- Trump response to the arrests.

I've wondered before--is Trump surrounded by imaginary friends?


All of the smart people have quit or been fired. All that's left are idiots.


Quit calling them idiots like this is a bad joke. They are a transnational crime syndicate masquerading as a government. They are destroying our institutions.
They don’t care if they look like fools when they hold this vast amount of power. In the end they’re laughing at us.
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