College Acceptance/Matriculation Stats: NCS/STA, Holton/Landon

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Anonymous wrote:There are several small liberal arts colleges are are very highly regarded--arguably even more so than Ivies--for undergraduate education. This is especially true for those undergraduates who plan on attending graduate programs to earn PhDs. The graduates of these schools (Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, Carleton, Pomona, Oberlin, Reed, Bryn Mawr, some of the 7 sisters, etc.) have disproportionately high numbers of graduates who go onto post-graduate education.

Yuck. If you want your kid to hide out in a little town and avoid black people -- these are great places for white preppy, pampered, entitled kids. If you want them in the real world -- choose other great schools. Your idea that these schools might be better than Ivy Universities is laughable and defensive.

We're taking our AA DD to Amherst's admitted students' Open House this Sunday. She was also accepted at H/Y/P and Williams. Our preference is that she attends a LAC. Our family is not preppy, pampered and DD is definitely not an entitled kid.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several small liberal arts colleges are are very highly regarded--arguably even more so than Ivies--for undergraduate education. This is especially true for those undergraduates who plan on attending graduate programs to earn PhDs. The graduates of these schools (Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, Carleton, Pomona, Oberlin, Reed, Bryn Mawr, some of the 7 sisters, etc.) have disproportionately high numbers of graduates who go onto post-graduate education.

Yuck. If you want your kid to hide out in a little town and avoid black people -- these are great places for white preppy, pampered, entitled kids. If you want them in the real world -- choose other great schools. Your idea that these schools might be better than Ivy Universities is laughable and defensive.

We're taking our AA DD to Amherst's admitted students' Open House this Sunday. She was also accepted at H/Y/P and Williams. Our preference is that she attends a LAC. Our family is not preppy, pampered and DD is definitely not an entitled kid.

Would you be willing to share what school she is graduating from?

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:There are several small liberal arts colleges are are very highly regarded--arguably even more so than Ivies--for undergraduate education. This is especially true for those undergraduates who plan on attending graduate programs to earn PhDs. The graduates of these schools (Swarthmore, Amherst, Williams, Carleton, Pomona, Oberlin, Reed, Bryn Mawr, some of the 7 sisters, etc.) have disproportionately high numbers of graduates who go onto post-graduate education.

Yuck. If you want your kid to hide out in a little town and avoid black people -- these are great places for white preppy, pampered, entitled kids. If you want them in the real world -- choose other great schools. Your idea that these schools might be better than Ivy Universities is laughable and defensive.

We're taking our AA DD to Amherst's admitted students' Open House this Sunday. She was also accepted at H/Y/P and Williams. Our preference is that she attends a LAC. Our family is not preppy, pampered and DD is definitely not an entitled kid.

Would you be willing to share what school she is graduating from?

Why not ask me to post her name?

[Anonymous]

What is HYP?

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Anonymous wrote:What is HYP?

Harvard/Yale/Princeton.

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I'm black, graduated Bryn Mawr, PhD Harvard and LOVED Bryn Mawr. And yes, much higher percentage going on to ivies for grad school. Not sure someone would generalize. Wasn't preppy And I had a 7:1 student teacher ratio!

[Anonymous]

I only read 2 or 3 pages, but honestly you guys are all clowns for thinking that kids just get into college because their parents are wealthy. I go to St. Albans right now, and I can tell you from experience that the reason the top of our classes go to ivies is because the top of our classes are extremely smart; it has nothing to do with wealth. I will concede a few things: a. we push a bunch of kids in through athletics, but none of these kids are dumb b. many of the kids who go to school with me are extremely affluent and had parents that went to ivy league schools. however, it is exceedingly rare that anyone gets into a top 10 school through "connections". for example, there were 4 or 5 kids who got into yale this year. all had sat scores of 2300+ except for 1 who was a nationally recruited runner. it's not that top private high school kids get free passes, and it also isn't really the quality of education. it's a combination of 2 things. the competitive atmosphere that pervades these high schools engenders success, and that these high schools are home to extremely qualified students in the first place, by any number of definitions. you heard it here first: you're kidding yourself if you think that STA kids are getting in because of their parents' money. i agree that there are huge educational advantages to being in the highest socioeconomic bracket, but not because of the fact that you can "buy" an ivy league ticket.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I agree with 14:36 - law school name and prestige is extremely important for certain legal careers.

And that is one of the reasons America is going to hell in a hand basket. Inginuity, drive and ideas made this country, not lawyering up.

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Pssst. This thread is a year old. Responding now is kind of pointless.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:Class of 2008 Stats:

National Cathedral School: 24% of graduating class attending Ivy League schools; 68% of class (51 out of 75) attending "Top 25 Colleges."
St. Albans: 24% to Ivy League; 59% (45 out of 76) to Top 25 Colleges.
Holton-Arms: 22% to Ivy League; 49% (38 out of 78) to Top 25 Colleges.
Landon: 10% to Ivy League; 26% (21 out of 81) to Top 25 Colleges.

"Top 25 Colleges" refers to 2010 US News College Guide, and includes both "Top 25 National Universities" and "Top 25 Liberal Arts Colleges."

I found the data from a friend's NCS and St. Albans alumni magazines; and from the Holton and Landon websites. These four single-sex schools have impressive exmission records!

Gosh, those were same stats as my public HS and it was free ! If you live in a city or suburb with a lot of educated professionals( 2 masters, doctoral degree, etc..) those stats pretty much match whether you have a big private school culture or not.

[Anonymous]

Any info for 2011?

[Anonymous]

2011 info will not be complete until the end of the summer, to see which wait-listers and Z-listers are accepted.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I agree with 14:36 - law school name and prestige is extremely important for certain legal careers.

And that is one of the reasons America is going to hell in a hand basket. Inginuity, drive and ideas made this country, not lawyering up.

Add spelling to your list...ha,ha,ha

[Anonymous]

Here are some of the matriculation data for ncs. Might change.

Harvard-0
Princeton-1
Yale- 2
Columbia 1
Penn 2
Dartmouth 1
Brown 3?
Cornell 0?

Stanford 2
Duke 2
MIT 1

I am sure this is an incomplete list.

[Anonymous]

Anonymous wrote:I only read 2 or 3 pages, but honestly you guys are all clowns for thinking that kids just get into college because their parents are wealthy. I go to St. Albans right now, and I can tell you from experience that the reason the top of our classes go to ivies is because the top of our classes are extremely smart; it has nothing to do with wealth. I will concede a few things: a. we push a bunch of kids in through athletics, but none of these kids are dumb b. many of the kids who go to school with me are extremely affluent and had parents that went to ivy league schools. however, it is exceedingly rare that anyone gets into a top 10 school through "connections". for example, there were 4 or 5 kids who got into yale this year. all had sat scores of 2300+ except for 1 who was a nationally recruited runner. it's not that top private high school kids get free passes, and it also isn't really the quality of education. it's a combination of 2 things. the competitive atmosphere that pervades these high schools engenders success, and that these high schools are home to extremely qualified students in the first place, by any number of definitions. you heard it here first: you're kidding yourself if you think that STA kids are getting in because of their parents' money. i agree that there are huge educational advantages to being in the highest socioeconomic bracket, but not because of the fact that you can "buy" an ivy league ticket.

I am really getting tired of adults posing as students on these boards. There are so many inconsistencies in this post, it is pretty obvious this is a parent!