What are the list of MCPS positions set to be laid off (assuming the budget cuts go through)?

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Anonymous wrote:There are several layers of positions in central office that “support” the WSM employees in the schools. So not only does Taylor want to outsource the work of the CCNs to WSM, he and his cronies in central office have padded the whole operation with cushy office jobs “supporting” the people in the schools.

There’s another thread about this on here, but it really is so clear that MCPS is swinging away from college counseling and toward career advising. If you want to go to college, better be well off, understand the system, and have parents who can buy you a counselor and essay coach. All the poor kids and first gen will be steer toward the trades.

Yes, I am exaggerating, but I’m so frustrated with these cuts!

How bout kids should be able to formulate their own college essay without a coach or parent’s help to get into a school? Maybe these kids getting an essay coach shouldn’t actually be getting into these colleges if they can’t write an essay on their own (without AI too)? PS this is coming from someone who only applied to 2 colleges because I didn’t want to write more than 2 different essays on a typewriter. Talk about stress about not messing anything up!

Because some families cannot afford private coaches, and the parents are not educated. Maybe remove them from the richer school and just have one, and make it income-based for those schools? There is a difference between not wanting to and needing support. Ours is wonderful and we had planned to use him. We have no clue how to apply for college and could use the support.

I hear you. There does need to be some support around this, but I don’t think it needs to be a full time position. I think it should be reduced to part-time. I also think that all SDTs need to go, not just the hs staff. The position is a waste and those teachers would be much more helpful in the classroom. I don’t care how good they are at convincing you they are needed. They aren’t. And they certainly aren’t making a difference- kids are still overwhelmingly below proficiency in reading and math across the county.

There are over 500 kids graduating, more at some schools, so yes, there needs to be a full time position, even 2-3 positions.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how successful the incentivized retirement has been? Does it apply to everyone or do you have to have a certain number of years to qualify?

It’s a lousy incentive so I doubt they will get much traction with it

I agree, it’s not a great buyout, except these are pension folks. Currently more that 2,000 of these old- timers have earned their pension the can retire and still get a paycheck. Yet only about 400 put in for retirement this year prior to the incentive. 400 out of 2000 is ridiculous. They need to go and make room for younger teachers who have nothing to fall back on of their job is cut.

Many probably cannot afford to retire. They should not have to retire so that younger teachers come in. That's not how it works.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how successful the incentivized retirement has been? Does it apply to everyone or do you have to have a certain number of years to qualify?

As I understand it, you have to be eligible to retire already. That would mean you have 30 years. 10k is not enough to move the needle.

If a teachers starts at 24, that means with 30 years they'd be 54, that's not really retirement age or the pension being enough to live off of, especially if they have HS/College age kids.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how successful the incentivized retirement has been? Does it apply to everyone or do you have to have a certain number of years to qualify?

It’s a lousy incentive so I doubt they will get much traction with it

I agree, it’s not a great buyout, except these are pension folks. Currently more that 2,000 of these old- timers have earned their pension the can retire and still get a paycheck. Yet only about 400 put in for retirement this year prior to the incentive. 400 out of 2000 is ridiculous. They need to go and make room for younger teachers who have nothing to fall back on of their job is cut.

Many probably cannot afford to retire. They should not have to retire so that younger teachers come in. That's not how it works.

It may not be how it works, but many of the long-term teachers are phoning it in. They are paid quite well, with many years in. They should retire.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how successful the incentivized retirement has been? Does it apply to everyone or do you have to have a certain number of years to qualify?

As I understand it, you have to be eligible to retire already. That would mean you have 30 years. 10k is not enough to move the needle.

If a teachers starts at 24, that means with 30 years they'd be 54, that's not really retirement age or the pension being enough to live off of, especially if they have HS/College age kids.

Exactly, I was hired by mcps at the ripe old age of 23. So I am eligible (have my 30) but I also have one kid about to begin college and 2 more. My husband was a fed until last year. He hasn’t been able to find a job with a salary even close to what he was making before. 10k is not even close to enough for me to consider the offer.

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Anonymous wrote:Our Career Coach from WSM basically took over the CCN's job. There was alot of tension between the 2 of them. I honestly thought that the WSM employee would be canned first, since we all know many state initiatives tend not to last. Regardless, I guess I understand not needing both of them.

Yes. But I don't like that MCPS went with an outside nonprofit for this super important job! The CCNs at places like BCC and Magruder are amazing and they have been canned!

I’m guessing that the WSM Career coaches are cheaper

Much cheaper. And much less knowledgeable. By making the proposed cuts, Taylor is making the mcps workforce dumber and less educated.

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Anonymous wrote:Anybody know how successful the incentivized retirement has been? Does it apply to everyone or do you have to have a certain number of years to qualify?

As I understand it, you have to be eligible to retire already. That would mean you have 30 years. 10k is not enough to move the needle.

If a teachers starts at 24, that means with 30 years they'd be 54, that's not really retirement age or the pension being enough to live off of, especially if they have HS/College age kids.

Exactly, I was hired by mcps at the ripe old age of 23. So I am eligible (have my 30) but I also have one kid about to begin college and 2 more. My husband was a fed until last year. He hasn’t been able to find a job with a salary even close to what he was making before. 10k is not even close to enough for me to consider the offer.

That was under the old system, depending on when you were hired

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Anonymous wrote:Our Career Coach from WSM basically took over the CCN's job. There was alot of tension between the 2 of them. I honestly thought that the WSM employee would be canned first, since we all know many state initiatives tend not to last. Regardless, I guess I understand not needing both of them.

Yes. But I don't like that MCPS went with an outside nonprofit for this super important job! The CCNs at places like BCC and Magruder are amazing and they have been canned!

I’m guessing that the WSM Career coaches are cheaper

Much cheaper. And much less knowledgeable. By making the proposed cuts, Taylor is making the mcps workforce dumber and less educated.

Cheaper but still paid for by mcps?

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If they would go back to the pre-covid retirement of "cumulative" years instead of "consecutive" years, I would JUMP! I worked 8 years, took time at home with my kids, and went back 6 years ago. I can't retire unless I have a minimum of 10 "consecutive" years. If it was "cumulative", I'd be out!

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Does anyone know what the rules are for seiu involuntary transfers

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MCPS should have incentivized the younger teachers or those recently hired with 3 years of less to resign.

That would save a ton of money in salary.

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Anonymous wrote:MCPS should have incentivized the younger teachers or those recently hired with 3 years of less to resign.

That would save a ton of money in salary.

Most of these jump on their own. Smart to do this.

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We need our teachers. This is crazy their funding goes up every year and they scream poverty. They need a full line by line audit.

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Anonymous wrote:We need our teachers. This is crazy their funding goes up every year and they scream poverty. They need a full line by line audit.

Yes, it is interesting that they added about 1500 positions between FY20 and FY25 while enrollment went down from 164,129 in FY20 to 161,580 in FY25.

Here is a detailed memorandum on this topic: https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=16320&meta_id=186064

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Anonymous wrote:We need our teachers. This is crazy their funding goes up every year and they scream poverty. They need a full line by line audit.

Yes, it is interesting that they added about 1500 positions between FY20 and FY25 while enrollment went down from 164,129 in FY20 to 161,580 in FY25.

Here is a detailed memorandum on this topic: https://montgomerycountymd.granicus.com/MetaViewer.php?view_id=169&event_id=16320&meta_id=186064

Interesting memo, thanks. Looks like one factor is that "Instructional Specialists" increased from about 2,850 in FY20 to 3,300 in FY25 (an increase of about 450.) What are "instructional specialists"?