3/26 Board of Ed meeting live thread

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Anonymous wrote:If you hop on 54, how long does it take right now to go from Wootton to Crown?

You can’t hop on on Tide on 54, it doesn’t stop near Wootton .

Sure it does. The stop is well inside the walk zone. Depending on where you live, it may be closer to your house than old Wootton.

No it doesn’t stop next to Wootton. The closest stop is Darnestown and Research which is a mile away from Wootton and more than 2 miles away for kids who live next to Villages of Rockville for example. The only Wootton kids close enough to walk to the stop are those who live along Hurley.

There will be an MCPS bus to Crown for kids who live next to Villages. I'm not clear on the problem/issue.

Really? Show me where MoCo said this magical bus is going to be available.

Has MCPS put out the bus stop list for Crown already? The Villages is over 2 miles to Crown (google maps puts it at 3.4 walking) - high school students more than 2 miles to a high school get bus transportation. There will be MCPS bus transportation from that area. You are fear mongering for no reason.

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I think they are talking about public bus routes for kids that play sports/do other activities before and after school.

High schools also have MCPS activity buses for after-school activities.

Activity busses are a joke and are useless for anyone who plays a sport. Kids can't play sports unless they are in the walk zone, have a car, have a friend with a car, or have parents who don't work and can come pick them up. That's extremely limiting to single parents or families where both parents work. That's part of the outrage over moving the school and changing a large number of kids from walkers to bussers.

OMG What?!? You actually IRL believe that no kids in America can play high school sports unless they are in the walk zone? STOP with the absurdity, honestly. The vast majority of kids going to any public high school take the bus. At Wootton. In MoCo. In MD. In the country. And those kids play sports too! And their parents manage to pick them up or they carpool just like everyone else does. Tons of us work full time, our kids take the bus to Wootton, and our kids play sports. We make it work. Now it's your turn to make it work also.

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Anonymous wrote:Interesting that none of the Save Wootton people stuck around for the after-action report about the shooting that happened in their building.

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Because they don’t have kids or their kids are soon to graduate.

Really clear signal of what their care about Their property values!

Sounds to me like a signal that they don't want to watch the BOE and Superintendent celebrate what a great job they did the day a child got shot in their kids' school.

That was pretty terrible how they presented it and minimized it.

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Anonymous wrote:If you hop on 54, how long does it take right now to go from Wootton to Crown?

You can’t hop on on Tide on 54, it doesn’t stop near Wootton .

Sure it does. The stop is well inside the walk zone. Depending on where you live, it may be closer to your house than old Wootton.

No it doesn’t stop next to Wootton. The closest stop is Darnestown and Research which is a mile away from Wootton and more than 2 miles away for kids who live next to Villages of Rockville for example. The only Wootton kids close enough to walk to the stop are those who live along Hurley.

There will be an MCPS bus to Crown for kids who live next to Villages. I'm not clear on the problem/issue.

Really? Show me where MoCo said this magical bus is going to be available.

Has MCPS put out the bus stop list for Crown already? The Villages is over 2 miles to Crown (google maps puts it at 3.4 walking) - high school students more than 2 miles to a high school get bus transportation. There will be MCPS bus transportation from that area. You are fear mongering for no reason.

DP
I think they are talking about public bus routes for kids that play sports/do other activities before and after school.

High schools also have MCPS activity buses for after-school activities.

Activity busses are a joke and are useless for anyone who plays a sport. Kids can't play sports unless they are in the walk zone, have a car, have a friend with a car, or have parents who don't work and can come pick them up. That's extremely limiting to single parents or families where both parents work. That's part of the outrage over moving the school and changing a large number of kids from walkers to bussers.

OMG What?!? You actually IRL believe that no kids in America can play high school sports unless they are in the walk zone? STOP with the absurdity, honestly. The vast majority of kids going to any public high school take the bus. At Wootton. In MoCo. In MD. In the country. And those kids play sports too! And their parents manage to pick them up or they carpool just like everyone else does. Tons of us work full time, our kids take the bus to Wootton, and our kids play sports. We make it work. Now it's your turn to make it work also.

Get out of your Wootton bubble. Of course we make it work but it’s much harder when kids are also in outside sports and activities too and some start at 4 pm or they have to be back at school at 4:30 pm or stay the entire day which is a long day. Not all schools are accessible by public bus or safe to walk to nor are there buses if you are right under the two mile walk zone. My kids are in multiple sports and activities. It’s a huge juggling act every day.

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Anonymous wrote:If you hop on 54, how long does it take right now to go from Wootton to Crown?

You can’t hop on on Tide on 54, it doesn’t stop near Wootton .

Sure it does. The stop is well inside the walk zone. Depending on where you live, it may be closer to your house than old Wootton.

No it doesn’t stop next to Wootton. The closest stop is Darnestown and Research which is a mile away from Wootton and more than 2 miles away for kids who live next to Villages of Rockville for example. The only Wootton kids close enough to walk to the stop are those who live along Hurley.

They could take the 56 bus from in front of Wootton and get off at the Shady Grove Hospital/Medical Center stop and walk the rest of the way to Crown (that is within the Crown walk zone) and going home they can walk to Shady Grove Hospital/Medical Center and then take the 56 back to Wootton or even all the way up Wootton Parkway to Falls Road (and beyond) if they are a Fallsmead family.

MCdot changes bus routes all the time if there's enough need or something as big as a HS moves.

For the walkers who have never navigated the experience of taking a bus to school, with ebikes these days it makes it super easy to get to and from Wootton. High schoolers love the independence.

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Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

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Anonymous wrote:If you hop on 54, how long does it take right now to go from Wootton to Crown?

You can’t hop on on Tide on 54, it doesn’t stop near Wootton .

Sure it does. The stop is well inside the walk zone. Depending on where you live, it may be closer to your house than old Wootton.

No it doesn’t stop next to Wootton. The closest stop is Darnestown and Research which is a mile away from Wootton and more than 2 miles away for kids who live next to Villages of Rockville for example. The only Wootton kids close enough to walk to the stop are those who live along Hurley.

They could take the 56 bus from in front of Wootton and get off at the Shady Grove Hospital/Medical Center stop and walk the rest of the way to Crown (that is within the Crown walk zone) and going home they can walk to Shady Grove Hospital/Medical Center and then take the 56 back to Wootton or even all the way up Wootton Parkway to Falls Road (and beyond) if they are a Fallsmead family.

MCdot changes bus routes all the time if there's enough need or something as big as a HS moves.

For the walkers who have never navigated the experience of taking a bus to school, with ebikes these days it makes it super easy to get to and from Wootton. High schoolers love the independence.

E-bikes are unsafe.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

She has no experience with high school and works for Mcps.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

She has no experience with high school and works for Mcps.

Or she knew that if she listed the DCC magnets like Wheaton Engineering and CAP it would just raise questions about how the regional program model is going to increase equity given that every DCC school is majority Black and Hispanic but these programs are majority White and Asian. She is speaking so passionately about equity but there's been zero discussion about how the regional model will advance racial equity in regional program access.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

She has no experience with high school and works for Mcps.

Again, since when does Montoya work for MCPS???

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

Because she (and a lot of people in MCPS) think that there should be racial “proportionality” in these programs that mirrors the racial demographics of the population in MCPS. Never mind that using race as a criteria factor is actually illegal. Never mind that racial quota-esque goals are concerning. Never mind that maybe certain groups of students do not want to leave their neighborhood to attend a magnet and you can’t force people to apply and prioritize what you think is best for them if they don’t want it. Who attends these programs is largely due to who seeks them out and proactively applies for them. Never mind that the transportation isn’t sufficient so only families who can absorb this burden end up matriculating. And never mind consistent, compelling data that significant proportions of black and brown students are not proficient at grade level and would not be appropriate candidates for programs designed to be accelerated, narrowing the number of possible candidates from those groups. Plus geographically Poolesville is far from communities with larger populations of black and Hispanic residents. Is anyone pointing out that high level orchestras are also not proportional, nor are football teams, and so on and so forth.

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I took the bus to high school. 15 - 20 min each way. I did afterschool activities. In fact once I made friends with those with cars they drove me everywhere. Or my parents. Or the activity bus. Or the ride on bus. He’ll when I was a kid we didn’t have cell phones and the bus actually cost money and I still got everywhere I needed to go without being able to walk home. FFS people these are teens. They can get around.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

Because she (and a lot of people in MCPS) think that there should be racial “proportionality” in these programs that mirrors the racial demographics of the population in MCPS. Never mind that using race as a criteria factor is actually illegal. Never mind that racial quota-esque goals are concerning. Never mind that maybe certain groups of students do not want to leave their neighborhood to attend a magnet and you can’t force people to apply and prioritize what you think is best for them if they don’t want it. Who attends these programs is largely due to who seeks them out and proactively applies for them. Never mind that the transportation isn’t sufficient so only families who can absorb this burden end up matriculating. And never mind consistent, compelling data that significant proportions of black and brown students are not proficient at grade level and would not be appropriate candidates for programs designed to be accelerated, narrowing the number of possible candidates from those groups. Plus geographically Poolesville is far from communities with larger populations of black and Hispanic residents. Is anyone pointing out that high level orchestras are also not proportional, nor are football teams, and so on and so forth.

If she thinks they should be proportional, how does the regional program model achieve this? She's calling people racist for having concerns about it but in a couple years should MCPS provide any data on the regional programs we are going to see the exact same pattern.

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Anonymous wrote:I took the bus to high school. 15 - 20 min each way. I did afterschool activities. In fact once I made friends with those with cars they drove me everywhere. Or my parents. Or the activity bus. Or the ride on bus. He’ll when I was a kid we didn’t have cell phones and the bus actually cost money and I still got everywhere I needed to go without being able to walk home. FFS people these are teens. They can get around.

Honestly, if the concern is transportation, time/money would be much better spent advocating that RideOn increase/expand/make more frequent the relevant routes.

Honestly, I think MoCo officials would be HAPPY to facilitate such a practical and productive constituent request.

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Anonymous wrote:Why did Montoya read off percentages of White and Asian students in SMCS at Blair and Poolesville, Ecology at Poolesville, Poolesville Humanities, and RMIB and then talk as though that is why the BOE needs to dissolve the NEC and DCC? None of these are NEC or DCC programs, one of them happens to be located in the DCC but does not serve that many DCC students. Why didn't she get data on DCC academies and magnets? Why is she perpetuating misinformation that suggests that only White and Asian kids participate in DCC programs?

Because she (and a lot of people in MCPS) think that there should be racial “proportionality” in these programs that mirrors the racial demographics of the population in MCPS. Never mind that using race as a criteria factor is actually illegal. Never mind that racial quota-esque goals are concerning. Never mind that maybe certain groups of students do not want to leave their neighborhood to attend a magnet and you can’t force people to apply and prioritize what you think is best for them if they don’t want it. Who attends these programs is largely due to who seeks them out and proactively applies for them. Never mind that the transportation isn’t sufficient so only families who can absorb this burden end up matriculating. And never mind consistent, compelling data that significant proportions of black and brown students are not proficient at grade level and would not be appropriate candidates for programs designed to be accelerated, narrowing the number of possible candidates from those groups. Plus geographically Poolesville is far from communities with larger populations of black and Hispanic residents. Is anyone pointing out that high level orchestras are also not proportional, nor are football teams, and so on and so forth.

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Anonymous wrote:I took the bus to high school. 15 - 20 min each way. I did afterschool activities. In fact once I made friends with those with cars they drove me everywhere. Or my parents. Or the activity bus. Or the ride on bus. He’ll when I was a kid we didn’t have cell phones and the bus actually cost money and I still got everywhere I needed to go without being able to walk home. FFS people these are teens. They can get around.

Honestly, if the concern is transportation, time/money would be much better spent advocating that RideOn increase/expand/make more frequent the relevant routes.

Honestly, I think MoCo officials would be HAPPY to facilitate such a practical and productive constituent request.

Ride on is not mcps and not all neighborhoods have bus stops that go near the school. We’d have to take three busses to get to our high school that’s a 15 minute drive.