“Amy Bradley is Missing” Netflix

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Anonymous wrote:Seeing how drunk(high?) she was makes me think accidental fall. But I'm having trouble ruling out the sightings, especially the one on the beach where he saw her tattoos and watch clearly. I could dismiss the brothel (maybe sex worker trying to scam him) and Barbados bathroom sightings as mistaken though.

Yeah, I'm torn between these scenarios--drunken fall (would have screamed though...) that required a significant lean over an oddly shaped railing or left the boat to buy weed or E and got into trouble there. Maybe even initially fantasized about walking away from her life and family. The southern lady named Amy sightings are hard to completely dismiss.

No scenario makes complete sense. That's the problem!

Remember that the side table was up against the railing. Her shoes nearby.

WE ALREADY TALKED ABOUT THE TABLE> THE FBI SAID IT MAY HAVE BEEN PUT THERE BY CLEANERS

FFS pay atttention.

You need to chill. The FBI said it MAY (as you even said) have been put there by cleaners. The fact is, it was found there. They did not say with certainty that the table was moved. There is not evidence that it was moved.

Do you move tables when cleaning a balcony where someone died? Odd.

This. The FBI is unable to determine the position of the table at the time of Amy’s disappearance and therefore can’t use it in their investigation. I doubt the FBI agent would have mentioned it in the interview had she not thought it was relevant, but they were unable to use any evidence in the cabin because the scene had been tampered with.

As an armchair sleuth, the position of the table can be relevant. In my experience, a cleaning crew cleans around furniture or puts it back in a default configuration.

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Cigarettes and lighter and room key were gone. Could be that all were in her pockets, but I know I generally set the key down on a table once I've entered. The small detail of the balcony door being partially open (when her dad initially saw it closed) suggests to me that she left the room again and that the ~6AM sighting with Yellow was accurate. That doesn't mean I think Yellow did anything to her, more likely she left the ship for whatever reason then got into trouble.

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The brother said there was lots of material the series didn't include. I'd like to know what they were chatting about on the balcony. They seemed close and he must have had the best sense of both her frame of mind and her level of sobriety at that point.

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Anonymous wrote:The brother said there was lots of material the series didn't include. I'd like to know what they were chatting about on the balcony. They seemed close and he must have had the best sense of both her frame of mind and her level of sobriety at that point.

I'm also curious why they didn't give us more on what they were talking about/how drunk she was out on the balcony. I have a really hard time thinking she randomly decided to leave the ship to buy weed hidden in a suitcase if she didn't mention anything at all related to that to her brother, especially if she said her plan was to finish her cigarette and go to sleep for a bit or whatever.

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I'd like more specifics on disembarking procesdures in 1998. When I went on a few cruises in the late 80s and early 90s, we just walked off the ship and only had to show ID to get back on. RC seems to be going with the story that she left of her own accord, so this would track?

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Ok hear me out. I think they said at one point that she talked about jumping and swimming to shore or something? Maybe she jumped so that she could swim to shore and score drugs or something? Or just for fun, which seems consistent with her personality? Or she was running away from her life and homophobic family? And didn’t mom say that they would not let them get off the ship at Curacao? Perhaps this was her way of seeing the island anyway.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok hear me out. I think they said at one point that she talked about jumping and swimming to shore or something? Maybe she jumped so that she could swim to shore and score drugs or something? Or just for fun, which seems consistent with her personality? Or she was running away from her life and homophobic family? And didn’t mom say that they would not let them get off the ship at Curacao? Perhaps this was her way of seeing the island anyway.

Even drunk (and at that point likely not that drunk), would not have jumped from that height. But she was partying, never went to sleep, probably just walked right off the boat and who knows what happened then.

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Anonymous wrote:All of this debating about who knows more about the gay club scene is silly.

The Netflix documentary has been out a couple of weeks now. I feel like if she was alive, something would have happened or someone would have come forward with more info by now.

What about the IP address in Barbados that goes to that website on holidays and her mom’s birthday?


That's because she's dead, sadly. Whether on the cruise or sometime in the decade after, she's not alive. Heartbreaking for her family, but I hope they can start to come to terms with it.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a different theory on the crew’s interest in her. I think they had been told to look for a female with a certain look. I think she fit the bill and it was a lot of money for them.

I agree with others about the family. I felt they tried too hard to come across as this super close, lovey family. I don’t think they murdered her, but their story doesn’t add up. Like someone else mentioned, I thought it was super weird they left the ship early. There’s no way I would have left. You would have wanted to talk with the FBI when you docked.

I find it interesting so many people discount the FBI analysis of the photos.

I also agree with others about the cruise director, he was an odd fish.

I don’t understand what about her look you think would be appealing to either crew or sex trafficker. This was in the late 90s when “the Rachael” was the popular haircut. She had a butch haircut very short, not feminine looking.

This. I’m sure she was a nice woman and her parents loved her, but not everyone is beautiful, and that’s ok.

The men were tripping over themselves for her? Really?

Of course you picked the least flattering photo. I've noticed she looks quite different in photos depending on hairstyle and weight fluctuations. She was slim, attractive, and vivacious--looked great at the time of the cruise.

https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/31/grace.coldcase.bradley/index.html

Men were tripping over themselves for her?



For her?



For her?



Maybe this version?



I mean, really?

She’s neither ugly nor gorgeous, but let’s not pretend men were salivating in the way her mother claims.

I Am guessing she had a fun and dynamic personality and was very boisterous, so people were drawn to her as someone to hang out and party with. Mom mistook this for men being attracted to her. Partially because that’s what moms do, and partially because she was desperate for her to get with a man instead of women.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a different theory on the crew’s interest in her. I think they had been told to look for a female with a certain look. I think she fit the bill and it was a lot of money for them.

I agree with others about the family. I felt they tried too hard to come across as this super close, lovey family. I don’t think they murdered her, but their story doesn’t add up. Like someone else mentioned, I thought it was super weird they left the ship early. There’s no way I would have left. You would have wanted to talk with the FBI when you docked.

I find it interesting so many people discount the FBI analysis of the photos.

I also agree with others about the cruise director, he was an odd fish.

I don’t understand what about her look you think would be appealing to either crew or sex trafficker. This was in the late 90s when “the Rachael” was the popular haircut. She had a butch haircut very short, not feminine looking.

This. I’m sure she was a nice woman and her parents loved her, but not everyone is beautiful, and that’s ok.

The men were tripping over themselves for her? Really?

Of course you picked the least flattering photo. I've noticed she looks quite different in photos depending on hairstyle and weight fluctuations. She was slim, attractive, and vivacious--looked great at the time of the cruise.

https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/31/grace.coldcase.bradley/index.html

Men were tripping over themselves for her?



For her?



For her?



Maybe this version?



I mean, really?

She’s neither ugly nor gorgeous, but let’s not pretend men were salivating in the way her mother claims.

I Am guessing she had a fun and dynamic personality and was very boisterous, so people were drawn to her as someone to hang out and party with. Mom mistook this for men being attracted to her. Partially because that’s what moms do, and partially because she was desperate for her to get with a man instead of women.

I agree with this. I do think she was attractive and vivacious.

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Anonymous wrote:I found that strange as well. They should have returned to the room together. Brad said in an interview that they ‘did their own thing’ at the club. He was off with people and she was hanging out with other people/dude from the band.

Maybe they came in together, only needing to swipe his card, and she immediately left for a few minutes - could have left something at the club maybe.

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Anonymous wrote:Ok hear me out. I think they said at one point that she talked about jumping and swimming to shore or something? Maybe she jumped so that she could swim to shore and score drugs or something? Or just for fun, which seems consistent with her personality? Or she was running away from her life and homophobic family? And didn’t mom say that they would not let them get off the ship at Curacao? Perhaps this was her way of seeing the island anyway.

Even drunk (and at that point likely not that drunk), would not have jumped from that height. But she was partying, never went to sleep, probably just walked right off the boat and who knows what happened then.

She could have left the room and jumped from a lower level. Since she had mentioned wanting to do that, I’m surprised nobody is talking about it. This would explain why she didn’t bring shoes.

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Anonymous wrote:I don't know why people are making such a big deal about shoes. She may have had another pair right by her bed or the door and grabbed those instead. Maybe flip flops.

And why are people simply disregarding the eyewitness sighting close to 6am?

All of her shoes were accounted for.

No, they weren't. The family said they had no idea how many shoes she brought. They knew she had tennis shoes, the Birks, and a dressier pair, but weren't sure what else.

How many pairs of shoes do you think Young, not wealthy (non lipstick) lesbian brought on her trip in the tiny cabin with her parents? Come on.

And don’t they still have her packed luggage? I’m sure from that they can deduce which shoes were/were not missing. it wouldn’t take much to account for casual shoes she brought with her and assume she didn’t walk out of the room in heels. The parents seem odd to me and I agree they seem like they created an image of Amy in their heads that wasn’t real. Poor woman. She probably felt rejected by her family. Still I think this was accidental rather than suicide.

I have 20 something daughters. I don’t know exactly what shoes they bring on vacation until they actually wear them, and I’m sure they own shoes I have never seen. It’s possible she slipped into some flip flops or something that they didn’t know about.

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Anonymous wrote:I think she leaned over the balcony to throw up (not wanting to go inside the cabin and wake everybody or stink it up) and fell overboard. I don't think the Jas photo is her. Trafficking happens, but it's not middle class white ladies on cruise ships with their families.

This.

This makes the most sense.

If you’ve ever been in a cruise cabin, you know how small they are. The parents would be asleep in a bed between the balcony and bathroom. Opening the door would wake everyone up. It’s loud.

I think it’s very likely that she ended up in the ocean, but the door leading from the balcony into the cabin was left 10-14” open, per Amy’s dad. Either she or her brother had left it open. Her dad also says “something” awoke him around 6am. The something could have been Amy exiting the cabin into a hallway. There were young women on the ship who had spent time talking to Amy and claim they saw her take an elevator going up with Yellow (the musician) around 6am, but only Yellow came back down.

I’m not convinced she was smuggled off the ship, but there is no way that a scan card system is infallible. Shit happens and there isn’t 100% compliance with official procedures. A crew member would know how to sneak people or things off the ship.

The timeline isn’t exact.

And there tend to be a decent number of crew and passengers up and about at 6am (especially on a port day).

I think those girls might have seen them together earlier. Maybe.

But how could they see them going off together and him returning alone? Were they just parked by the elevator?

If that was the case, it would point towards a sexual assault and murder, not holding her prisoner someplace and finding a way to sneak her off a ship during a port day where they scan everyone getting off the boat.

Yeah, and it sounds like they did not see him come off elevator without her. I think they went up together and later he walked by them and was by himself. I might be mistaken. But if so, it would be possible that the girls missed them coming down together and going their separate ways. It’s also possible that they weren’t the only ones up there. Could have been a whole party and she just stayed longer than him.

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Anonymous wrote:I have a different theory on the crew’s interest in her. I think they had been told to look for a female with a certain look. I think she fit the bill and it was a lot of money for them.

I agree with others about the family. I felt they tried too hard to come across as this super close, lovey family. I don’t think they murdered her, but their story doesn’t add up. Like someone else mentioned, I thought it was super weird they left the ship early. There’s no way I would have left. You would have wanted to talk with the FBI when you docked.

I find it interesting so many people discount the FBI analysis of the photos.

I also agree with others about the cruise director, he was an odd fish.

I don’t understand what about her look you think would be appealing to either crew or sex trafficker. This was in the late 90s when “the Rachael” was the popular haircut. She had a butch haircut very short, not feminine looking.

This. I’m sure she was a nice woman and her parents loved her, but not everyone is beautiful, and that’s ok.

The men were tripping over themselves for her? Really?

Of course you picked the least flattering photo. I've noticed she looks quite different in photos depending on hairstyle and weight fluctuations. She was slim, attractive, and vivacious--looked great at the time of the cruise.

https://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/12/31/grace.coldcase.bradley/index.html

Men were tripping over themselves for her?



For her?



For her?



Maybe this version?



I mean, really?

She’s neither ugly nor gorgeous, but let’s not pretend men were salivating in the way her mother claims.

I Am guessing she had a fun and dynamic personality and was very boisterous, so people were drawn to her as someone to hang out and party with. Mom mistook this for men being attracted to her. Partially because that’s what moms do, and partially because she was desperate for her to get with a man instead of women.

I agree. And I think you’re proving the point that she was likely having fun dancing with Yellow.