Ruling on MCPS LGBT curriculum case coming this morning

Anonymous
For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.


See, this is true in Montgomery County. It’s also why the books were unnecessary to accomplish anything in our corner of the world.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.


NP.
Threatening young children with “social consequences” because of their parents… who is coming across as intolerant?

And I say this as someone who won’t be opting out.
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Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…


I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.


Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.


And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.


Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?


I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.


It didn’t work out very well for them, did it?


I’m glad the county fought. As a taxpayer, as a parent, as a person who values education and rejects the continued conflation of public schools and religious dogma, MCPS did what is right.

Soon, we’ll have Sharia law where the only teachings in schools are from X religious book. Girls won’t get an education because, well, they’re girls. Gays will be excluded and persecuted and their children treated like pariahs because clearly books will turn people gay and make people think too much about the human condition [sarcasm alert]

Grateful that the County took a stand. The SCOTUS rejected the constitution today. That doesn’t mean we give up the fight for what lies ahead tomorrow. Can’t believe our country increasingly resembles 1930s Germany / late 1970s Iran. Frightening.


This is why we liberals are the losing end of so many things these days. The majority don’t understand how to strategically win. It’s not by taking a losing, bad facts case to the Supreme Court. All it did was set things back. And continuing to defend it shows incredibly bad judgment.
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Anonymous wrote:The message that mcps just sent out to staff and families shows that mcps continues to miss the point.
I’d really like to know who drafted it.
“Chilling”


I thought their message was fine. What's the problem with saying "It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community"?


You are failing to see the issue here.

MCPS = LGBTQ lobby

Court simply said that parents have right to opt out. MCPS allows opt out for lots of things. It does nto send any message to LGBTQ community. Only a LGBTQ lobby group will interepret court ruling like that.



The other things kids were opting out for were for older kids, and they could sit quietly in a room by themselves, but five-year-olds can’t.

The ruling actually gave MCPS and now they don’t have to keep the kids in school and find something else for them to do. They can make them stay home.


Nobody is going to leave kids of any age unsupervised in school. Are you familiar with school today? Kids of all ages can get sent to the media center/library.


Exactly. It’s a perfect compromise. Everyone should be happy.

So why isn’t the left?


Actually, the left is quite happy. The religious bigots stay home when they’re teaching elementary kids about everyone.

They can’t be sent to the library when they’re five years old. The librarian isn’t just sitting there waiting for your bigoted child to show up.

Parents will be notified and they will keep their kids home and get an unexcused absence.

The best of both worlds.


Ha. No. That’s not how it’s going to work.

If I have a 5 YO and I need to be in work or travel that day, you can be sure she’ll be in school. The school will have to accommodate her during objectionable “story time.”


Schools aren’t your child care.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:I know they’re going to rule against MCPS but I personally really praise MCPS for trying to create an inclusive environment. Kids need windows in curricula to become tolerant and respectful of their peers


Agree. It's hard to take McConnell's illegitimate Supreme Court all that seriously anyway. I mean, half the justices get gifts from billionaires with cases before them.
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:It's going to be really fun when Jewish kids opt out of the Narnia series, Catholics opt out of Romeo and Juliet (suicide), and on and on.


You think that kids in MCPS are actually expected to read classics like this?
Anonymous
Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.


Guess what? No one cares how you “judge!” We judge you too!!
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Anonymous wrote:The message that mcps just sent out to staff and families shows that mcps continues to miss the point.
I’d really like to know who drafted it.
“Chilling”


I thought their message was fine. What's the problem with saying "It also sends a chilling message to many valued members of our diverse community"?


You are failing to see the issue here.

MCPS = LGBTQ lobby

Court simply said that parents have right to opt out. MCPS allows opt out for lots of things. It does nto send any message to LGBTQ community. Only a LGBTQ lobby group will interepret court ruling like that.



The other things kids were opting out for were for older kids, and they could sit quietly in a room by themselves, but five-year-olds can’t.

The ruling actually gave MCPS and now they don’t have to keep the kids in school and find something else for them to do. They can make them stay home.


Nobody is going to leave kids of any age unsupervised in school. Are you familiar with school today? Kids of all ages can get sent to the media center/library.


Exactly. It’s a perfect compromise. Everyone should be happy.

So why isn’t the left?


Actually, the left is quite happy. The religious bigots stay home when they’re teaching elementary kids about everyone.

They can’t be sent to the library when they’re five years old. The librarian isn’t just sitting there waiting for your bigoted child to show up.

Parents will be notified and they will keep their kids home and get an unexcused absence.

The best of both worlds.


Ha. No. That’s not how it’s going to work.

If I have a 5 YO and I need to be in work or travel that day, you can be sure she’ll be in school. The school will have to accommodate her during objectionable “story time.”


Schools aren’t your child care.


Really? Tell that to the parents who complain about snow days and excessive holidays.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:I know they’re going to rule against MCPS but I personally really praise MCPS for trying to create an inclusive environment. Kids need windows in curricula to become tolerant and respectful of their peers


Agree. It's hard to take McConnell's illegitimate Supreme Court all that seriously anyway. I mean, half the justices get gifts from billionaires with cases before them.


Donald Trump MAGA also doesn’t take the Supreme Court seriously when they don’t decide his way.
Anonymous
The Muslim white supremacists won? Omg no. Sharia Elon musk handsmaid tale is truly incoming now.
Anonymous
Parents should not be given authority over educational professionals. Parents should not be allowed to opt their kids out sex Ed or reading assignments.

-teacher and religious person
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:For the parents opting their children out of lessons because those lessons include a same sex couple family, please know that the vast majority of us judge you harshly as a bigot and your kids will likely suffer social consequences because of your intolerance. I feel bad for them, especially those who are themselves gay. Shame on you, you intolerant and insecure people.


NP.
Threatening young children with “social consequences” because of their parents… who is coming across as intolerant?

And I say this as someone who won’t be opting out.



Don’t worry, some of us will do the exact opposite. We will invite your kids to our home with our gay friends and let them read books to your kid. They will see kindness and love and compassion that they’ve never seen in their own home.
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Anonymous wrote:So when can the taxpayers know how much money was spent on legal fees for this???
Let’s talk about the budget again…


I’m a taxpayer and good with the money spent on sensing a message of support to an extremely marginalized community.


Responses like this are why people note that the school curriculum, particularly at the elementary school years, is about reading, writing, and math. I don’t want money spent on sending a message. Please hire more teachers so kids can get more individualized attention on academics.


And by having teachers have to sort kids by religiousness and teaching multiple tracks is hurting the teachers ability to focus on academics. Why are you guys not getting this? They should just have the opt out kids stay home for anything they find objectionable.


Why are you not getting that MCPS lost a lot more by fighting rather than pulling down these books or allowing opt-outs for the elementary schoolers?


I’m glad MCPS put up a fight. Thank God. What happens next is these same parents want girls and boys to be separated. They want girls to dress “modestly” and taught different subjects because their religious values. They want non Islamists (or fill in blank of religion) to pray every morning to a certain God.

Thank God MCPS was fighting for our constitution and the right of students to learn.


It didn’t work out very well for them, did it?


I’m glad the county fought. As a taxpayer, as a parent, as a person who values education and rejects the continued conflation of public schools and religious dogma, MCPS did what is right.

Soon, we’ll have Sharia law where the only teachings in schools are from X religious book. Girls won’t get an education because, well, they’re girls. Gays will be excluded and persecuted and their children treated like pariahs because clearly books will turn people gay and make people think too much about the human condition [sarcasm alert]

Grateful that the County took a stand. The SCOTUS rejected the constitution today. That doesn’t mean we give up the fight for what lies ahead tomorrow. Can’t believe our country increasingly resembles 1930s Germany / late 1970s Iran. Frightening.


This is why we liberals are the losing end of so many things these days. The majority don’t understand how to strategically win. It’s not by taking a losing, bad facts case to the Supreme Court. All it did was set things back. And continuing to defend it shows incredibly bad judgment.


Liberals care about people more than they care about winning.
Anonymous
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Anonymous wrote:There are 2 genders.


Gender is a social construct. Literally. There are cultures in which a third gender is common.

Did you mean there are two sexes? That's also false.


They don’t know the difference between sex and gender because they opted out of that class
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